2013 NBA draft prospects chatter

[Kemba2Hendo]

Never thought I'd hear you say that.

Me either but MKG is so likeable and McLemore arrived so close to Beal, it would be sick to have both.

[James Gatz]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

[Liver_Pooty]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

I compare them when they were both college freshman. I believe they're about even in that regard.

[SWedd523]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

Yeah, that seems to be the one big difference between the two. Harden has a much more rounded game than Shabazz, but as I've said before, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being

[BrotherDave]

Note time. From 1-15-13

Noel vs Tennessee (12pts, 9 boards, 6 blocks, 4 steals)
- forced a pass (TO)
- missed a lefty hook
+ shotblocking machine
+ broke up pass
- stifled in paint
+ leads team in rebounds, blocks and steals
- <60% FT shooter
+ great strip in the corner
+ causes TOs
- has trouble banging w/ bigger guys (weight)

Poythress
+ hustle (floor burns)
+ good help defense
• stripped on drive but intercepted defender's attempt to keep it in play and scored
- stepped on baseline during post-up
- stripped on break (pocked picked at halfcourt)
+ nice pass (hit baseline cutter)
+ 3pt (made 2 that I saw)
+ pulls boards down with strength
- could be more assertive on offense
- airballed from righthand dribble drive

Cauley-Stein
+ lefty hook
+ goes into a move as soon as he gets it
- poor FT shooter (big hands)
+ alley oop dunk
+ took a charge
+ nice shot follow for put back
+ good instincts

Goodwin
- Rejected twice on one drive
- poor defense
- another drive blocked
- selfish (could've passed to a wide open Wiltjier or Noel but settled for tougher shot to get himself going)
- bricked 3
- blocked again
+ picked pocket after UK lost possession
- sloppy pass leads to TO
- selfish fastbreak again, misses contested dunk over defender instead of easy dish (nice hops though)
+ Euro-step draws foul
+ good at drawing fouls/contact
+ tear drop
- commits charge
- fouls out (8 pts)

Victor Oladipo vs Wisconsin
+ 3 pt
- drove right missed tough lay-up
+ steals pass & starts break
+ great on-ball defender
- got dunked on by Jared Berggren
+ drives right, absorbs contact & finishes And 1
+ catch & shoot mid-range curl
+ nice spin move in the lane

Cody Zeller
+ draws foul
+ finished w/ contact
+ spin left short J
+ drive across lane right-handed scoop
+ left-handed lay-up
+ brought ball up
? big tendency to go left
+ up & under reverse lay-up
• has speed and athleticism advantage against Berggren (looks all-world)
- fumbled away handle on would-be lay-up
+ catch, drop-step and emphatic slam
+ flawless first half (18pts on 8/8 shooting)
+ quick drop-step to Scola (under the backboard/baseline) lay-up (missed but a nice move)
- got schooled on up & under
- blocked
- went up weak in traffic
- turnover

[BigSlam]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

Yeah, that seems to be the one big difference between the two. Harden has a much more rounded game than Shabazz, but as I've said before, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being

Harden was a 2 year college player dont forget.

Not saying that Bazz is Harden like, just saying...

[BigSlam]

Chad Ford on Draft fits for the Cats:...

My response to that article from where I saw it on Bobcat's Planet:

Thanks for the article but I'm not surprised this is from Ford, he is an idiot a lot. First, color me not surprised that Ford likes a slow, European white 7' guy *Darko, cough, cough* All Len needs to do is grow a beard and add -avic to his last name and he'll be Ford's surefire no. 1 pick. Why would Len's size (7'1", 225) and overall skill around the basket give the Bobcats a player they don't have when Zeller's arguably better size (7', 240) and definitively better overall skill around the basket wouldn't? You can fly a dirigible though the hole in that logic.

Secondly, Muhammad is NOT a bad fit for Charlotte. He can easily play the 2 in the NBA, especially alongside someone like MKG who can cover Muhammad's man on defense if the other team's 2 is a better scorer. Shabazz can score from all over the court, Gillie can defend like a mofo, it's arguably the best fit.

Bennett is definitely in the convo though.

Concerning the tank drift, I don't think we necessarily tanked too soon (our "prime" was being swept as a 7th seed), we just didn't get Anthony Davis. We definitely fumbled the ball on the Chandler trade and not using the Dust chip as well as how we handled Diaw.

Plus, I REALLY see MKG as a solid point forward.

So long as we have passing/shot creation for others from one wing (MKG) and shot creation for them self from the other wing (Bazz) and neither are a spazz on D I am cool.

Oh, and one HAS to have range (Bazz).

[James Gatz]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

I compare them when they were both college freshman. I believe they're about even in that regard.

Harden was a 2 year college player dont forget.

Not saying that Bazz is Harden like, just saying...

Harden had 3.2 apg with 24.6 assist percentage while at Arizona in his freshmen year. Shabazz is currently averaging .8 apg with 5.6 assist percentage.

I'm not trying to diss the guy but he isn't a playmaker on a similar level as Harden. If he was he'd be a surefire number 1 pick.

[BigSlam]

Harden is much better playmaker than Shabazz.

I compare them when they were both college freshman. I believe they're about even in that regard.

Harden was a 2 year college player dont forget.

Not saying that Bazz is Harden like, just saying...

Harden had 3.2 apg with 24.6 assist percentage while at Arizona in his freshmen year. Shabazz is currently averaging .8 apg with 5.6 assist percentage.

I'm not trying to diss the guy but he isn't a playmaker on a similar level as Harden. If he was he'd be a surefire number 1 pick.

No, he wouldn't. Because if he did, Harden would have been a sure fire number 1 pick - and he wasn't.

My point was that Bazz can't be compared with a sophmore.

Dont get me wrong - I dont think he compares with Harden anyways, but you have to keep their experience in perspective.

I compare Bazz more with Tyreke - if Tyreke had better range and a much better head on his shoulders.

[James Gatz]

No, he wouldn't. Because if he did, Harden would have been a sure fire number 1 pick - and he wasn't.

Different scenarios. Harden went number 3 overall and was a part of what most people would consider to be a better draft class.Shabazz is already a consideration for number 1 overall. If he started averaging 3 more assits per game in addition to what he is already doing he would be going 1st.

My point was that Bazz can't be compared with a sophmore.

The stats I listed were from both of their freshmen years.

[SWedd523]

Having a hard time seeing any similarities to Tyreke. He was the PG and an ISO heavy player in college.

[BigSlam]

Having a hard time seeing any similarities to Tyreke. He was the PG and an ISO heavy player in college.

Both are power type wings that use their strength to out bully opponents.

But, like I said, Bazz is a much, much better shooter.

[SWedd523]

Having a hard time seeing any similarities to Tyreke. He was the PG and an ISO heavy player in college.

Both are power type wings that use their strength to out bully opponents.

But, like I said, Bazz is a much, much better shooter.

sooooo...... really similar to Harden then?

He's a lefty, from the PAC whatever, scores points in bunches but it shows up in the stat sheet instead of the film, built big, better athlete than given credit for, etc.

[catch20two]

I'll get the chance to observe and scout every prospect on my board today.

#1. Shabazz Muhammad vs Oregon @4pm ET, CBS

#2. Nerlens Noel vs Auburn @9pm ET, ESPNU

#3. Anthony Bennett vs Colorado State @7pm ET, NBCSP

#4. Ben McLemore vs Texas @2pm ET, CBS

#5. Alex Len vs North Carolina @12pm ET, ESPN

[SWedd523]

I don't know what I enjoy more, UNC currently having a big lead on a good team (on ESPN right now), or this big ass, swagged out, Cam Newton looking dude at the gym singing