Greensboro Swarm: The G-League Thread

Post #41 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue May 5, 2015 12:05 am

JDR720 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I can see Greenville. Does it have an arena?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Secours_Wellness_Arena

Interesting, didn't realize they had a D league team way back in the day.

Post #42 » by **JDR720** » Tue May 5, 2015 12:08 am

the seats are super far away from the court though

HornetJail · Post #43 » by **HornetJail** » Tue May 5, 2015 12:36 am

JDR720 wrote:the seats are super far away from the court though

Weird. Does it double as a skating rink or something?

EDIT- looking at the wiki page, it does double as a hockey rink. Apparently, we had a preseason game there this past October (vs Wizards), and Clemson is playing their basketball games there next season. And they did host a D-League team 12 years ago. Interesting.

Post #44 » by **JDR720** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:15 am

I wonder what the average D-League attendance is. could factor into which city is picked, if attendance is low there is no need to get a bigger arena

Eoghan · Post #45 » by **Eoghan** » Tue May 5, 2015 3:56 am

BizGilwalker wrote: I don't know wtf is in Fayetteville.

Soldiers, pawn shops, used car dealerships, soldiers, strip clubs, barbershops, pawn shops, soldiers and strip clubs.

BeesWax · Post #46 » by **BeesWax** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:02 pm

JDR720 wrote:I wonder what the average D-League attendance is. could factor into which city is picked, if attendance is low there is no need to get a bigger arena

Did not feel like doing the math but it looks like it is low 3000s or high 2000s. Some of them are pathetic

http://sportsfranchises.sportsblog.com/ ... l_afl.html

Snidely FC · Post #47 » by **Snidely FC** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:32 pm

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/spor ... /26871071/
The Asheville Altitude averaged <300 fans/game in their last D league season! But the D League is a higher profile product and Asheville has exploded in the last 10 years. Have been to several well attended preseason games at the US Cellular Center the last few years, and the Bobcats/Hornets have trained preseason at UNCA. Ah, I don't expect it to be Asheville, but one can hope.

EwingSweatsALot · Post #48 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Tue May 5, 2015 8:57 pm

Do any D-League teams actually make money? I'm assuming it would be hard with that attendance.

Post #49 » by **JDR720** » Tue May 5, 2015 10:26 pm

D-League players make a maximum of 25.5k. the minimum is 13k. so with 12 players on a team thats a maximum of $306,000 for the players. it shouldn't be that hard to make at least a small profit with those salaries.

EwingSweatsALot · Post #50 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Wed May 6, 2015 12:48 am

JDR720 wrote:D-League players make a maximum of 25.5k. the minimum is 13k. so with 12 players on a team thats a maximum of $306,000 for the players. it shouldn't be that hard to make at least a small profit with those salaries.

Wow I didn't realize they were paid so little. So even when Vonleh was sent down his contract was allocated to that structure?

There is also more overhead than player salaries. Also coaches, whatever you pay the arena, and maybe a couple more thing. 50 game league(25 home), say you average on the higher side of fans at 2k a game and average ticket price at $15. That gets you 750k for tickets, that's if the team keeps all ticket revenue. I really don't know how that works. Plus a share of concessions probably does net you a small amount in the black. I would assume enough to keep it alive as long as we are getting enough talent and player development.

HornetJail · Post #51 » by **HornetJail** » Wed May 6, 2015 1:03 am

EwingSweatsALot wrote:
JDR720 wrote:D-League players make a maximum of 25.5k. the minimum is 13k. so with 12 players on a team thats a maximum of $306,000 for the players. it shouldn't be that hard to make at least a small profit with those salaries.

Wow I didn't realize they were paid so little. So even when Vonleh was sent down his contract was allocated to that structure?

There is also more overhead than player salaries. Also coaches, whatever you pay the arena, and maybe a couple more thing. 50 game league(25 home), say you average on the higher side of fans at 2k a game and average ticket price at $15. That gets you 750k for tickets, that's if the team keeps all ticket revenue. I really don't know how that works. Plus a share of concessions probably does net you a small amount in the black. I would assume enough to keep it alive as long as we are getting enough talent and player development.

Vonleh was on his rookie contract (2M+). D-League players who aren't under contract with an NBA team would get that measly salary, which is shockingly low. $13,000 a year? If you worked 40 hours a week for an entire year at $6.50 an hour, you'd make than $13,000 in a year. That's not even enough to make a living unless you live out in the middle of nowhere where cost of living is dirt cheap.

Liver_Pooty · Post #52 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 6, 2015 1:20 am

What's the average salary for a minor league baseball player? Fairly certain it's more than 20k

BeesWax · Post #53 » by **BeesWax** » Wed May 6, 2015 11:52 am

BizGilwalker wrote:
EwingSweatsALot wrote:
JDR720 wrote:D-League players make a maximum of 25.5k. the minimum is 13k. so with 12 players on a team thats a maximum of $306,000 for the players. it shouldn't be that hard to make at least a small profit with those salaries.

Wow I didn't realize they were paid so little. So even when Vonleh was sent down his contract was allocated to that structure?

There is also more overhead than player salaries. Also coaches, whatever you pay the arena, and maybe a couple more thing. 50 game league(25 home), say you average on the higher side of fans at 2k a game and average ticket price at $15. That gets you 750k for tickets, that's if the team keeps all ticket revenue. I really don't know how that works. Plus a share of concessions probably does net you a small amount in the black. I would assume enough to keep it alive as long as we are getting enough talent and player development.

Vonleh was on his rookie contract (2M+). D-League players who aren't under contract with an NBA team would get that measly salary, which is shockingly low. $13,000 a year? If you worked 40 hours a week for an entire year at $6.50 an hour, you'd make than $13,000 in a year. That's not even enough to make a living unless you live out in the middle of nowhere where cost of living is dirt cheap.

They receive housing and insurance as part of their contracts too. Minor league baseball runs from $1300 a month to $2700 a month on the high end. A lot of that depends on where you are playing between rookie ball and AAA. Also once you are on the 40 man roster you get around $40,000 minimum. It is not a lucrative life trying to make it to the pros in any sport.

Post #54 » by **fatlever** » Fri May 29, 2015 5:26 am

http://www.atthehive.com/2015/5/29/8684 ... s-d-league

Greenville and Raleigh are out.

Liver_Pooty · Post #55 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 29, 2015 8:51 am

Lol. "With the recent surge in the Atlanta Hawks popularity"....

Their local ratings af as instead the Cavs were among the lowest in history.

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Post #57 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:58 pm

Interesting handle BOB.

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Eoghan · Post #58 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:59 pm

They meet with Greensboro today. Greensboro is selling them on multiple venues for an expanded fan base, including one venue actually being in Winston-Salem.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #59 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:49 pm

BrotherDave wrote:They meet with Greensboro today. Greensboro is selling them on multiple venues for an expanded fan base, including one venue actually being in Winston-Salem.

Raleigh backed out, right? I'd be all over Greensboro though if this happens.

Eoghan · Post #60 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:47 pm

Don't know about Raleigh.