LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

[JustBuzzin]

Trading LaMelo would be idiotic. Playing him in meaningless games would be idiotic. He’s been practicing, they just don’t want to risk him for literally nothing.

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

[KembaWalker]

Trading LaMelo would be idiotic. Playing him in meaningless games would be idiotic. He’s been practicing, they just don’t want to risk him for literally nothing.

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

He’s a supermax player, that’s why we don’t need to throw him out there with a bunch of throwaway players in a throwaway coaches system just to…not sure what you’re saying but I guess…discipline him?

I don’t think I can stomach another Christian McCaffrey situation in Charlotte watching us throw away another star player for garbage just to watch competent organizations show how bad we are at managing our players

[yosemiteben]

Trading LaMelo would be idiotic. Playing him in meaningless games would be idiotic. He’s been practicing, they just don’t want to risk him for literally nothing.

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

Oh so we're back on the "no smiling while on the bench if you're injured" thing.

Didn't realize that was the sort of logic you were using here.

[JustBuzzin]

Trading LaMelo would be idiotic. Playing him in meaningless games would be idiotic. He’s been practicing, they just don’t want to risk him for literally nothing.

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

He’s a supermax player, that’s why we don’t need to throw him out there with a bunch of throwaway players in a throwaway coaches system just to…not sure what you’re saying but I guess…discipline him?

I don’t think I can stomach another Christian McCaffrey situation in Charlotte watching us throw away another star player for garbage just to watch competent organizations show how bad we are are managing our players

CMC was never going to be healthy in Carolina. I almost think he was riding some of his injuries just because the team wasn't any good. Kind of crazy he's been healthy ever since he was traded home.

[JustBuzzin]

Trading LaMelo would be idiotic. Playing him in meaningless games would be idiotic. He’s been practicing, they just don’t want to risk him for literally nothing.

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

Oh so we're back on the "no smiling while on the bench if you're injured" thing.

Didn't realize that was the sort of logic you were using here.

Injuries is my main issue. Never once questioned his talent.

Is injuries not a real excuse for wanting to move on?

[MugzZo]

The only player I would trade LaMelo for is Cade

I think Cade would fit very well with us and we can take Topic in the draft and be set at 1-2-3

I like that idea.

Topic
Cade
Miller

I can get behind that.

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[KembaWalker]

Watching him injured on the bench laughing is also idiotic.

We still treating this dude like a rookie. He's a supermax player. Where is the accountability?

It's like a spoiled kid. You spoil that kid all your life he's never going to grow up and accept responsibility.

He’s a supermax player, that’s why we don’t need to throw him out there with a bunch of throwaway players in a throwaway coaches system just to…not sure what you’re saying but I guess…discipline him?

I don’t think I can stomach another Christian McCaffrey situation in Charlotte watching us throw away another star player for garbage just to watch competent organizations show how bad we are are managing our players

CMC was never going to be healthy in Carolina. I almost think he was riding some of his injuries just because the team wasn't any good. Kind of crazy he's been healthy ever since he was traded home.

Trading prime McCaffrey for peanuts was basically an admission that we are not a serious franchise that is capable of handling superstar players and putting them in situations to be successful and that we are doing a disservice to the league to keep one on our roster at this time. I’m tired of being that team. Give the new owners a chance to manage the kid with their staff before giving him away to some California team and making me watch him **** on us for the next decade

[fatlever]

Sitting him to be cautious is fine
But cliff didn't have to add the part "his ankle just hasn't responded" to the treatments. That's the concern, unless cliff misspoke or oversimplified things in a manner that sounded worse.

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[JDR720]

He isn't going to be traded... yet.

But if he keeps missing half the season, or in this case 3/4ths of it, then we need to trade him for whatever we can get.

We can't build a good team with his contract weighing us down. This isn't CMAC.

When Carolina traded CMAC, he was potentially the best RB in the league (when healthy) and an All-Pro level player.

Melo probably isn't even a top 10 PG and isn't close to All-NBA either.

[Bassman]

Sitting him to be cautious is fine
But cliff didn't have to add the part "his ankle just hasn't responded" to the treatments. That's the concern, unless cliff misspoke or oversimplified things in a manner that sounded worse.

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I think Clifford said that because it’s true. This type of injury (as described by an orthopedist/I previously posted some time ago) has the potential to be debilitating long term. Repetitive injuries to the area weaken the ability to recover. Clifford’s statement tells me the ankle, despite best efforts, can’t rebuild the level of support needed for this sport. Doesn’t mean it never will, but I am having serious doubts. It’s NOT an injury that is repaired via surgery to my understanding.

[Diop]

Sitting him to be cautious is fine
But cliff didn't have to add the part "his ankle just hasn't responded" to the treatments. That's the concern, unless cliff misspoke or oversimplified things in a manner that sounded worse.

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That’s what triggered this tweet. Hard not to speculate

[Rich4114]

Ah yes, we're back to trade LaMelo because he's been injured and smiling on the bench.

Do you guys remember Grant Hill? His career was shortened due to an ankle injury that was mishandled by the Pistons. Had they let him rest it the proper amount of time, he may have had a hall of fame career. If some of you had your way, we'd be doing that to LaMelo potentially except it wouldn't be to compete in a playoff series like Grant Hill it would be to compete in like 10 more meaningless games in a lost season. I don't know if it's LaMelo, the team or both but they're actually being smart here thinking about the long term over satisfying the twitter GM's

[JDR720]

I think it's pretty evident that we've already mishandled his ankle injuries. He's sprained both ankles multiple times already. Wouldn't be surprised if he has another surgery in the offseason.

He's career

51 games
75 games
36 games
22 games

Only 1 season in which he wasn't injured for a lot if not the majority of it.

If he plays 52 games next season, 13 games below the threshold to qualify for postseason awards, it'll be the 2nd most games he's ever played.

For comparison, MKG, our last talented yet injury prone young player, played more than 52 games 6 seasons for us. And 5 of those seasons were above 60 games.

I'd put the over/under for Melo next season at 50.

And I don't think anybody wanted or expected Melo to play again this season. We've been waiting for him to be shutdown for weeks already. The simple fact is, at this point, Melo can't be expected to be healthy.

[Rich4114]

I think it's pretty evident that we've already mishandled his ankle injuries. He's sprained both ankles multiple times already. Wouldn't be surprised if he has another surgery in the offseason.

He's career

51 games
75 games
36 games
22 games

Only 1 season in which he wasn't injured for a lot if not the majority of it.

If he plays 52 games next season, 13 games below the threshold to qualify for postseason awards, it'll be the 2nd most games he's ever played.

For comparison, MKG, our last talented yet injury prone young player, played more than 52 games 6 seasons for us. And 5 of those seasons were above 60 games.

I'd put the over/under for Melo next season at 50.

And I don't think anybody wanted or expected Melo to play again this season. We've been waiting for him to be shutdown for weeks already. The simple fact is, at this point, Melo can't be expected to be healthy.

My guess is the only reason he'd have surgery in the off-season is to remove the hardware in his ankle that is likely contributing to a lot of pain, discomfort, swelling, etc.

[JustBuzzin]

I think it's pretty evident that we've already mishandled his ankle injuries. He's sprained both ankles multiple times already. Wouldn't be surprised if he has another surgery in the offseason.

He's career

51 games
75 games
36 games
22 games

Only 1 season in which he wasn't injured for a lot if not the majority of it.

If he plays 52 games next season, 13 games below the threshold to qualify for postseason awards, it'll be the 2nd most games he's ever played.

For comparison, MKG, our last talented yet injury prone young player, played more than 52 games 6 seasons for us. And 5 of those seasons were above 60 games.

I'd put the over/under for Melo next season at 50.

And I don't think anybody wanted or expected Melo to play again this season. We've been waiting for him to be shutdown for weeks already. The simple fact is, at this point, Melo can't be expected to be healthy.

My guess is the only reason he'd have surgery in the off-season is to remove the hardware in his ankle that is likely contributing to a lot of pain, discomfort, swelling, etc.

Surprised another surgery. Yet you have a problem with people who are fed up with his injuries.

Thank goodness we missed out on Kemba dude was never the same after that contract. Then you have Batum/Hayward.

Yeah excuse me for having caution for another injury prone player trying to stay healthy in Charlotte.

What is your plan if he just can't stay healthy?

[Rich4114]

I think it's pretty evident that we've already mishandled his ankle injuries. He's sprained both ankles multiple times already. Wouldn't be surprised if he has another surgery in the offseason.

He's career

51 games
75 games
36 games
22 games

Only 1 season in which he wasn't injured for a lot if not the majority of it.

If he plays 52 games next season, 13 games below the threshold to qualify for postseason awards, it'll be the 2nd most games he's ever played.

For comparison, MKG, our last talented yet injury prone young player, played more than 52 games 6 seasons for us. And 5 of those seasons were above 60 games.

I'd put the over/under for Melo next season at 50.

And I don't think anybody wanted or expected Melo to play again this season. We've been waiting for him to be shutdown for weeks already. The simple fact is, at this point, Melo can't be expected to be healthy.

My guess is the only reason he'd have surgery in the off-season is to remove the hardware in his ankle that is likely contributing to a lot of pain, discomfort, swelling, etc.

Surprised another surgery. Yet you have a problem with people who are fed up with his injuries.

Thank goodness we missed out on Kemba dude was never the same after that contract. Then you have Batum/Hayward.

Yeah excuse me for having caution for another injury prone player trying to stay healthy in Charlotte.

What is your plan if he just can't stay healthy?

Well right now the choices are sell him off for pennies on the dollar, since if the Hornets are interested in moving him it's an enormous red flag for any other team. Or we let him get healthy and see if this young core can stay on the floor and show growth. If he can't stay healthy then I guess we just keep picking early in the lottery until we rebuild again and get a few extra swings with the Dallas/Miami picks.

[JustBuzzin]

My guess is the only reason he'd have surgery in the off-season is to remove the hardware in his ankle that is likely contributing to a lot of pain, discomfort, swelling, etc.

Surprised another surgery. Yet you have a problem with people who are fed up with his injuries.

Thank goodness we missed out on Kemba dude was never the same after that contract. Then you have Batum/Hayward.

Yeah excuse me for having caution for another injury prone player trying to stay healthy in Charlotte.

What is your plan if he just can't stay healthy?

Well right now the choices are sell him off for pennies on the dollar, since if the Hornets are interested in moving him it's an enormous red flag for any other team. Or we let him get healthy and see if this young core can stay on the floor and show growth. If he can't stay healthy then I guess we just keep picking early in the lottery until we rebuild again and get a few extra swings with the Dallas/Miami picks.

Putting your trust in a Ball brother to get healthy is very BOLD.

I hear you, but people must understand the risk we are taking. Sure we can sell low, but at least we got from under his contract. If we don't sell now we are gonna be pretty much stuck with him for the remainder of that contract. I'm not trying to see 20 games of LaMelo a year.

I hope he gets healthy, but history tells me the odds aren't on our favor.

[yosemiteben]

Surprised another surgery. Yet you have a problem with people who are fed up with his injuries.

Thank goodness we missed out on Kemba dude was never the same after that contract. Then you have Batum/Hayward.

Yeah excuse me for having caution for another injury prone player trying to stay healthy in Charlotte.

What is your plan if he just can't stay healthy?

Well right now the choices are sell him off for pennies on the dollar, since if the Hornets are interested in moving him it's an enormous red flag for any other team. Or we let him get healthy and see if this young core can stay on the floor and show growth. If he can't stay healthy then I guess we just keep picking early in the lottery until we rebuild again and get a few extra swings with the Dallas/Miami picks.

Putting your trust in a Ball brother to get healthy is very BOLD.

I hear you, but people must understand the risk we are taking. Sure we can sell low, but at least we got from under his contract. If we don't sell now we are gonna be pretty much stuck with him for the remainder of that contract. I'm not trying to see 20 games of LaMelo a year.

I hope he gets healthy, but history tells me the odds aren't on our favor.

This sentiment is going to be shared by every team in the league if you try to trade him.

[Liver_Pooty]

Please stop with the trade Lamelo stuff for at least a year or two. Its damn near ignorant to be honest. Finally get a player that's an all nba talent and want to ship him. **** stupid.

[SWedd523]

Please stop with the trade Lamelo stuff for at least a year or two. Its damn near ignorant to be honest. Finally get a player that's an all nba talent and want to ship him. **** stupid.

Are we just supposed to pretend like he hasn't had pretty significant injury problems for 3 years now and doesn't show any sign of improvement?

*gasp*

Giant elephant tap dancing in the middle of the room on a $260 million dollar contract and we're all gonna pretend like it's not a thing