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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#101 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:32 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Yes, incredible that Kupchak put us in position to be one draft away from playoff contention plus purchasing power to outbid other playoff teams.

We are much closer to being a team missing one piece rather than a team without pieces. We are not starting from scratch. Not even close.

Our front office and new ownership leveraged all our assets to perfection and timed the market perfectly.

They made a smart purchase. Winning basketball is in our future. Sustainable winking basketball, because we're young.

We Fe low-key on the OKC path if LaMelo and Mark can just stay healthy.

Will be interesting to see which star becomes available over these next year or two.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#102 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:11 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Yes, incredible that Kupchak put us in position to be one draft away from playoff contention plus purchasing power to outbid other playoff teams.

We are much closer to being a team missing one piece rather than a team without pieces. We are not starting from scratch. Not even close.

Our front office and new ownership leveraged all our assets to perfection and timed the market perfectly.

They made a smart purchase. Winning basketball is in our future. Sustainable winking basketball, because we're young.

We Fe low-key on the OKC path if LaMelo and Mark can just stay healthy.

Will be interesting to see which star becomes available over these next year or two.


The good thing about not trading our 2024 1st for Vassell is that if we were to miss the playoffs next season, we regain control of all our first round picks after next season.

So we only need to wait one season at most to regain control of all our own picks.

The next GM gets 1 year cushion to assess the market for star shooting guards who may be even better than Devin Vassell.

And since the 2 extra firsts Kupchak acquired (for the next GM) don't convey in either the 2025 or 2026 drafts, the team will have 2 years to play the market for a big star. A big star becomes available at least 1 time every other year.

Say what you will about the 4 of: LaMelo, Miller, Miles and Mark, we're one star.away from some fun playoff basketball that will be good for the city.

All Kupchak picks and Kupchap capital set the stage. Never once did his owner greenlight funds for an MLE player. It was always about the draft once Rozier and Hayward were given the keys.

The vets failed and Hornets couldn't throw money at problems - been overly cautious spending money. The money tied up in those 2 contracts forced the GM to pivot to a makeshift bench of 2nd round picks, major projects, cheap castoffs (Plumlee, Oubre).

Some lasted, most didn't. Martin and Richards are still here.

But now 4 first round draft picks have grown up and could form the starting lineup of the future, for many many years.

Sustainable winning.

The draft capital cupboard is full for trades. Hornets have the luxury of time whether or not they go all in by trading a high lottery pick in the 2024 draft.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#103 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:06 pm

why would spurs trade vassell for pick 5(ish) in a weak draft?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#104 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:09 pm

fatlever wrote:why would spurs trade vassell for pick 5(ish) in a weak draft?


That's not what I said earlier. I said Topic is their guy and they would do it for him (if we were to be in better position than them to draft him).

They need a true pure PG to run plays with Wembanyama. Vassell is more of a secondary playmaker. They ran him at point, which speaks to their desperation.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#105 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:12 pm

Another team that would overpay for Topic is the Pelicans. They really need a pure PG who can crank up their star investments.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#106 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:18 pm

Givony has Topic 5th on his board, some have him going later than that. I know you like Topic, but not sure the rest of the league sees him as this giant prize you do.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#107 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:23 pm

so topic for vassell is the idea?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#108 » by luciano-davidwesley » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:31 pm

I'd much prefer we keep on keeping on and build through the draft. Also just stop being tight arses for once and sign good bench pieces via the MLE/cap space. Then use those tradeable-sized contracts to continue to consolidate depth and assets like we did this deadline?

I don't see the novelty in throwing away multiple future firsts for good, but not great players. Let everyone else pay overs for the shortcut to success. It usually doesn't work out.

I'd rather go the OKC way.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#109 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:50 pm

i don't see any way spurs move vassell for that offer.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#110 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:54 pm

Just want to point out this gem from me in previous trade thread in January

"Others that interest me in potential Richards deal from teams that could use more size... Kings Davion, OKC Tre Mann, Rockets Tate..."

Tre Mann truther here lol
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#111 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:20 pm

The Wizards need a PG of the future. Would anyone be willing to trade Tre Mann if the Wizards inquired and offered Deni Avdija?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#112 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:52 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:The Wizards need a PG of the future. Would anyone be willing to trade Tre Mann if the Wizards inquired and offered Deni Avdija?

I feel like we'd be owed value in that scenario.

We have one more cost controlled rookie scale year of Mann before RFA whereas Avdija gets bumped to a (admittedly reasonable) $15.6 million descending 4 year contract next year. He's a good defender but he's not shown anything like the offensive potential Mann has since he got here.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#113 » by yosemiteben » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:53 am

MasterIchiro wrote:The Wizards need a PG of the future. Would anyone be willing to trade Tre Mann if the Wizards inquired and offered Deni Avdija?

Seems extremely premature since we're operating under a 3 game sample size for Mann.

If we were at the trade deadline and given a choice of the two, I would've picked Deni because Mann was a nobody. At this point we're still figuring out what Mann is.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#114 » by JDR720 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:50 am

Tyus Jones is averaging 13/7 shooting 50/42/77 and just had back to back games of 15+ assists. I think the Wizards have their PG.

And Avdija just had a 40/15 game and is playing very well this season. They aren't trading him for a guy we scraped off OKC's bench. He's probably the Wizards best player as soon as next season.


Mann has been really solid, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. It's been 3 games.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#115 » by wilson115 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:28 am

NSJ just needs to look to Tre and his years stuck on the OKC bench. Don't be like Bouk and Kai and miss your chance because you're impatient.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#116 » by yosemiteben » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:23 pm

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Post#117 » by Rich4114 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:11 pm

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#118 » by Braggins » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:22 pm

Whatever happened with the Nnaji situation? I thought I saw someone mention the other day someone from the team was visiting him in Europe or something like that.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#119 » by Bassman » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:49 pm

I fear this coach is pleading with management to bring in vet help for a run at the playoffs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#120 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:52 pm

Bassman wrote:I fear this coach is pleading with management to bring in vet help for a run at the playoffs.


Lol playoffs. Whew.
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