A Conglomeration Of Post Mortems! (New poll, get your votes in!)

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Which 2 of these 10 eliminated teams have the best 3 year future?

Pelicans
2
3%
Kings
3
5%
Bucks
2
3%
Sixers
0
No votes
Heat
1
2%
Magic
7
12%
Cavs
0
No votes
Thunder
28
47%
Knicks
5
8%
Nuggets
11
19%
 
Total votes: 59

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Post#41 » by The Real Dalic » Wed May 8, 2024 7:19 pm

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queridiculo wrote:Where are the Magic?


I can only fit 10 options in the poll. I guess I could take another team out and put Magic in but I thought it would be weird since people have already voted.

I completely understand. Plus it would be a pretty lopsided poll anyway. 8-)
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Post#42 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu May 9, 2024 1:59 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:The Bucks situation just seems like it’s going to unravel much quicker than people think.


Not beyond the realms of possibility Giannis asks for a trade this off season.

Bucks have very little assets to try bring many decent reinforcements.

Probably should have moved Middleton on whilst he he had some trade value.

Beasley and Crowder are horrible and need to be expunged.


Hmm maybe the Bucks could reinforce their squad with a 2 time MVP, FMVP, and DPOY caliber player?

Additionally, maybe their 3x 1st team All-NBA guard will play a full series!


Maybe. But they were underachieving with Doc even with them, and they probably don’t stand to get better and healthier. Time is not on the Bucks side at all.
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Post#43 » by GiannisAnte34 » Thu May 9, 2024 2:32 am

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Not beyond the realms of possibility Giannis asks for a trade this off season.

Bucks have very little assets to try bring many decent reinforcements.

Probably should have moved Middleton on whilst he he had some trade value.

Beasley and Crowder are horrible and need to be expunged.


Hmm maybe the Bucks could reinforce their squad with a 2 time MVP, FMVP, and DPOY caliber player?

Additionally, maybe their 3x 1st team All-NBA guard will play a full series!


Maybe. But they were underachieving with Doc even with them, and they probably don’t stand to get better and healthier. Time is not on the Bucks side at all.


Giannis + Dame + Middleton has the best record in the league, just didn't get to play many games together
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Post#44 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu May 9, 2024 6:51 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:
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Hmm maybe the Bucks could reinforce their squad with a 2 time MVP, FMVP, and DPOY caliber player?

Additionally, maybe their 3x 1st team All-NBA guard will play a full series!


Maybe. But they were underachieving with Doc even with them, and they probably don’t stand to get better and healthier. Time is not on the Bucks side at all.


Giannis + Dame + Middleton has the best record in the league, just didn't get to play many games together


Yea, their health should be better as they get older and more banged up.
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Post#45 » by Curmudgeon » Thu May 9, 2024 9:53 pm

The Lakers and Suns are fighting over Juan Ponce de Leon as their new head coach. He has reportedly finally discovered the fountain of youth.
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Post#46 » by floppymoose » Fri May 10, 2024 2:08 am

As a GSW fan, they are in danger of having a dark future. But it is avoidable. They just need to let Klay and CP3 walk, and trade Wiggins for youth (pick and expiring, whatever) and then embrace being a young team mentored by Steph and Dray. Then they could be decent in 3 years.


But the FO may keep Klay and CP and Wiggins, and then the future is bleak.
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Post#47 » by GiannisAnte34 » Sat May 11, 2024 8:53 pm

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Maybe. But they were underachieving with Doc even with them, and they probably don’t stand to get better and healthier. Time is not on the Bucks side at all.


Giannis + Dame + Middleton has the best record in the league, just didn't get to play many games together


Yea, their health should be better as they get older and more banged up.


So Giannis missing the playoffs is an expectation at 29 and 30 is it? If you say so I guess

Giannis missing back to back 1st round series is part due to his style, part due to Middleton missing so many games, and part due to bad luck (such as Love being a schmuck something out of his control)

Dame missing games can partly be attributed to his departure from Portland, partly to just poor management, and partly because of bad timing. I don’t think there is a reason to consider Giannis or Dame as particularly injury prone going forward
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Post#48 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:13 pm

It should be the Bucks due to Giannis still being a top 3 player and under 30 but something just feels off about the whole situation in Mil and I feel like Giannis is one of those guys who gets 1 ring then maybe just goes on cruise control. So I voted Kings.
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Post#49 » by Black Jack » Sun May 12, 2024 8:59 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote:It should be the Bucks due to Giannis still being a top 3 player and under 30 but something just feels off about the whole situation in Mil and I feel like Giannis is one of those guys who gets 1 ring then maybe just goes on cruise control. So I voted Kings.


I think Giannis has the opposite problem, he isn't willing to pace himself in the regular season, and now that he's peaked physically he'll continue to crash out when the playoffs start with all types of nagging injuries. The amount of over exertion he makes when it doesn't matter is a problem for Bucks ring chances going forward.

I know they won't do it for sentimental reasons, but I personally think they should trade him and Dame and start over.
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Post#50 » by jkvonny » Sun May 12, 2024 9:02 pm

Kings/Pels continues to lead the poll by a large margin.
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Post#51 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sun May 12, 2024 9:16 pm

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I think Giannis has the opposite problem, he isn't willing to pace himself in the regular season, and now that he's peaked physically he'll continue to crash out when the playoffs start with all types of nagging injuries. The amount of over exertion he makes when it doesn't matter is a problem for Bucks ring chances going forward.

I know they won't do it for sentimental reasons, but I personally think they should trade him and Dame and start over.


Well cruise control in the sense that winning rings really needs to matter in order to lead a team to one on top of any injury issues. I don't think he has the same fire that some other guys had who won more than 1.
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Post#52 » by Kobe187 » Mon May 13, 2024 12:06 am

Pelicans & Kings, hard to decide between those 2, a cut above the rest.
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Post#53 » by _NoMas » Mon May 13, 2024 10:50 am

The Bucks. They have an all time great player in his prime, none of the other teams listed can say that
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Post#54 » by GiannisAnte34 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:06 pm

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Cavsfansince84 wrote:It should be the Bucks due to Giannis still being a top 3 player and under 30 but something just feels off about the whole situation in Mil and I feel like Giannis is one of those guys who gets 1 ring then maybe just goes on cruise control. So I voted Kings.


I think Giannis has the opposite problem, he isn't willing to pace himself in the regular season, and now that he's peaked physically he'll continue to crash out when the playoffs start with all types of nagging injuries. The amount of over exertion he makes when it doesn't matter is a problem for Bucks ring chances going forward.

I know they won't do it for sentimental reasons, but I personally think they should trade him and Dame and start over.


who has the assets to trade fairly for Giannis? even OKC I don't see a reasonable deal that both sides walk away satisfied
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Post#55 » by Black Jack » Tue May 14, 2024 6:04 am

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Black Jack wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:It should be the Bucks due to Giannis still being a top 3 player and under 30 but something just feels off about the whole situation in Mil and I feel like Giannis is one of those guys who gets 1 ring then maybe just goes on cruise control. So I voted Kings.


I think Giannis has the opposite problem, he isn't willing to pace himself in the regular season, and now that he's peaked physically he'll continue to crash out when the playoffs start with all types of nagging injuries. The amount of over exertion he makes when it doesn't matter is a problem for Bucks ring chances going forward.

I know they won't do it for sentimental reasons, but I personally think they should trade him and Dame and start over.


who has the assets to trade fairly for Giannis? even OKC I don't see a reasonable deal that both sides walk away satisfied


Not that OkC would do it but Chet, another young player and picks is fair for Giannis.

I guess OKC, Utah, Rockets, maybe Hawks types have the assets.
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Post#56 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:31 pm

Black Jack wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
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I think Giannis has the opposite problem, he isn't willing to pace himself in the regular season, and now that he's peaked physically he'll continue to crash out when the playoffs start with all types of nagging injuries. The amount of over exertion he makes when it doesn't matter is a problem for Bucks ring chances going forward.

I know they won't do it for sentimental reasons, but I personally think they should trade him and Dame and start over.


who has the assets to trade fairly for Giannis? even OKC I don't see a reasonable deal that both sides walk away satisfied


Not that OkC would do it but Chet, another young player and picks is fair for Giannis.

I guess OKC, Utah, Rockets, maybe Hawks types have the assets.


Be more specific about “another young player and picks”
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Post#57 » by Black Jack » Tue May 14, 2024 1:38 pm

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who has the assets to trade fairly for Giannis? even OKC I don't see a reasonable deal that both sides walk away satisfied


Not that OkC would do it but Chet, another young player and picks is fair for Giannis.

I guess OKC, Utah, Rockets, maybe Hawks types have the assets.


Be more specific about “another young player and picks”


Bucks say yes to Chet, J Will, picks. Also to Sengun, tbd other young player, and picks.

Giannis is now an injury prone win now piece so if Bucks can reset with a young big, another young piece, and picks, they should go for it.
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Post#58 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue May 14, 2024 4:19 pm

Black Jack wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
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Not that OkC would do it but Chet, another young player and picks is fair for Giannis.

I guess OKC, Utah, Rockets, maybe Hawks types have the assets.


Be more specific about “another young player and picks”


Bucks say yes to Chet, J Will, picks. Also to Sengun, tbd other young player, and picks.

Giannis is now an injury prone win now piece so if Bucks can reset with a young big, another young piece, and picks, they should go for it.


Hahahaha, sure they do. What you're describing is more of a package for an aging Curry than a 30 year old top 3 player.
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Post#59 » by Black Jack » Tue May 14, 2024 6:31 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
Black Jack wrote:
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Be more specific about “another young player and picks”


Bucks say yes to Chet, J Will, picks. Also to Sengun, tbd other young player, and picks.

Giannis is now an injury prone win now piece so if Bucks can reset with a young big, another young piece, and picks, they should go for it.


Hahahaha, sure they do. What you're describing is more of a package for an aging Curry than a 30 year old top 3 player.


A top 3 player with frequent injury issues is not enough to contend. He needs to start load managing and the roster lacks wing defense among other issues.

Personally I think MIL is trapped with no way to add enough wing defense, and aging pieces around Giannis but that’s why they play the games.
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Post#60 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue May 14, 2024 8:39 pm

Black Jack wrote:
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Bucks say yes to Chet, J Will, picks. Also to Sengun, tbd other young player, and picks.

Giannis is now an injury prone win now piece so if Bucks can reset with a young big, another young piece, and picks, they should go for it.


Hahahaha, sure they do. What you're describing is more of a package for an aging Curry than a 30 year old top 3 player.


A top 3 player with frequent injury issues is not enough to contend. He needs to start load managing and the roster lacks wing defense among other issues.

Personally I think MIL is trapped with no way to add enough wing defense, and aging pieces around Giannis but that’s why they play the games.


ah yes a "frequently" injured player that plays more than 60 games every single season of his career with usage off the charts and a handful of seasons playing 80+ games

what a joke just stop talking

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