Teams who won't use amnesty clause
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Praying that Charlie Villanueva gets amnestied. Got baptized just for this event.
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Sacramento NEEDS to use it on Salmons. Now that we don't have broke, cheap, irrational owners, I have hope that this will happen.
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EArl wrote:Everyone say goodbye to Metta
What's the point? It's not going to free up any cap space and they'll still have to pay him.
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SalamiNCheez wrote:EArl wrote:Everyone say goodbye to Metta
What's the point? It's not going to free up any cap space and they'll still have to pay him.
Opens up an opportunity for other players to play his position. It saves a lot of money on the luxury tax.
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The Rebel wrote:dike77 wrote:Thunder wont use it because Presti doesnt want to admit several (!) terrible decisions, all related with Perkins
OKC is by far the smallest market in the league, right now with current contracts and draft pick cap holds the thunder are going to be at a payroll of $70.5 million in payroll, what makes anybody realistically think that the owners are going to okay Perkins to go away, while the team will have to add at least an MLE type big to replace Perkins. which puts by far the smallest market team in the league effectively paying around $13 million to replace Perkins with an MLE type big.
Of course OKC didn't HAVE to be in the smallest market in the league. But despite their generous government subsidy and the added revenue that comes from regularly going deep into the playoffs their owners won't pay the luxury tax and won't use the amnesty.
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SacKingsPejaFan wrote:Sacramento NEEDS to use it on Salmons. Now that we don't have broke, cheap, irrational owners, I have hope that this will happen.
Not sure why Sac would do this - they have a salary cap of
13-14: $40,707,644
14-15: $23,693,750
15-16: $6,431,25
at the moment.
Unless they are in the luxury cap area of 72 million or so, it provides them no benefit whatsoever, they still pay exactly the same, as well as giving talent to another team on the cheap, and sacrificing flexibility of future expiring contract that could be used in trades...
It really makes no sense to amnesty unless you are moving into the tax, or have a follow up move ready that requires that player gone or their cap space available. Even then, you just wait until the moment you have a follow up move to execute, and amnesty at that point.
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Greenraida wrote:darkangle901 wrote:OKC may use it on Perkins (although he's still trade-able so maybe not).
Memphis may use it on Randolph in a year or two.
tradeable to who?
A team with no issues paying the tax (granted, there's only 2-4 of those teams left) who could use an extra big.
Perkins is still a capable defender on a sub-max contract.
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Still able to use:
Charlotte Bobcats- Tyrus Thomas
Chicago Bulls- Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah
Detroit Pistons- Charlie Villanueva and Greg Monroe
Los Angeles Lakers- Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake
Memphis Grizzlies- Zach Randolph, Mike Conley
Miami Heat- Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony (Bosh, James, Wade)
Milwaukee Bucks-: Drew Gooden and Larry Sanders
Oklahoma City Thunder- Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, (Durant)
Sacramento Kings- John Salmons, DeMarcus Cousins
San Antonio Spurs-: Matt Bonner, (Parker)
Toronto Raptors- Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza,
Very, very unlikely to use (in fact, I would say won't):
Atlanta Hawks- (Unlikely to amnesty only player, Al Horford)
Boston Celtics- Paul Pierce, (Rondo, Bradley)...my understanding is if they amnesty Pierce, he Is paid the full $15.3 mil
Utah Jazz- (unlikely to amnesty only player, Derrick Favors)
Can't use
New Orleans Hornets- No amnesty eligible players on roster
Already used:
Brooklyn Nets- Used amnesty provision on Travis Outlaw (December 15, 2011)
Cleveland Cavaliers- Used amnesty provision on Baron Davis (December 14, 2011)
Dallas Mavericks- Used amnesty provision on Brendan Haywood (July 12, 2012)
Denver Nuggets- Used amnesty provision on Chris Andersen (July 17, 2012)
Golden State Warriors- Used amnesty provision on Charlie Bell (December 11, 2011)
Houston Rockets- Used amnesty provision on Luis Scola (July 13, 2012)
Indiana Pacers- Used amnesty provision on James Posey (December 12, 2011)
Los Angeles Clippers- Used amnesty provision on Ryan Gomes (July 18, 2012)
Minnesota Timberwolves- Used amnesty provision on Darko Milicic (July 12, 2012)
New York Knicks- Used amnesty provision on Chauncey Billups (December 10, 2011)
Orlando Magic- Used amnesty provision on Gilbert Arenas (December 9, 2011)
Philadelphia 76ers- Used amnesty provision on Elton Brand (July 12, 2012)
Phoenix Suns- Used amnesty provision on Josh Childress (July 16, 2012)
Portland Trail Blazers- Used amnesty provision on Brandon Roy (December 15, 2011)
Washington Wizards- Used amnesty provision on Andray Blatche (July 17, 2012)
Charlotte Bobcats- Tyrus Thomas
Chicago Bulls- Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah
Detroit Pistons- Charlie Villanueva and Greg Monroe
Los Angeles Lakers- Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake
Memphis Grizzlies- Zach Randolph, Mike Conley
Miami Heat- Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony (Bosh, James, Wade)
Milwaukee Bucks-: Drew Gooden and Larry Sanders
Oklahoma City Thunder- Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, (Durant)
Sacramento Kings- John Salmons, DeMarcus Cousins
San Antonio Spurs-: Matt Bonner, (Parker)
Toronto Raptors- Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza,
Very, very unlikely to use (in fact, I would say won't):
Atlanta Hawks- (Unlikely to amnesty only player, Al Horford)
Boston Celtics- Paul Pierce, (Rondo, Bradley)...my understanding is if they amnesty Pierce, he Is paid the full $15.3 mil
Utah Jazz- (unlikely to amnesty only player, Derrick Favors)
Can't use
New Orleans Hornets- No amnesty eligible players on roster
Already used:
Brooklyn Nets- Used amnesty provision on Travis Outlaw (December 15, 2011)
Cleveland Cavaliers- Used amnesty provision on Baron Davis (December 14, 2011)
Dallas Mavericks- Used amnesty provision on Brendan Haywood (July 12, 2012)
Denver Nuggets- Used amnesty provision on Chris Andersen (July 17, 2012)
Golden State Warriors- Used amnesty provision on Charlie Bell (December 11, 2011)
Houston Rockets- Used amnesty provision on Luis Scola (July 13, 2012)
Indiana Pacers- Used amnesty provision on James Posey (December 12, 2011)
Los Angeles Clippers- Used amnesty provision on Ryan Gomes (July 18, 2012)
Minnesota Timberwolves- Used amnesty provision on Darko Milicic (July 12, 2012)
New York Knicks- Used amnesty provision on Chauncey Billups (December 10, 2011)
Orlando Magic- Used amnesty provision on Gilbert Arenas (December 9, 2011)
Philadelphia 76ers- Used amnesty provision on Elton Brand (July 12, 2012)
Phoenix Suns- Used amnesty provision on Josh Childress (July 16, 2012)
Portland Trail Blazers- Used amnesty provision on Brandon Roy (December 15, 2011)
Washington Wizards- Used amnesty provision on Andray Blatche (July 17, 2012)
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Of those I just posted, here is my opinion
Atlanta Hawks- (Unlikely to amnesty only player, Al Horford)
Boston Celtics- Paul Pierce, (Rondo, Bradley)...my understanding is if they amnesty Pierce, he Is paid the full $15.3 mil Rondo and Bradley are too good to amnety
Charlotte Bobcats- Tyrus Thomas - Owner is too cheap to pay a player to leave
Chicago Bulls- Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah - Boozer has raised his trade value...all players are movable
Memphis Grizzlies- Zach Randolph, Mike Conley - Neither player is unwanted in Memphis
New Orleans Hornets- No amnesty eligible players on roster
San Antonio Spurs-: Matt Bonner, (Parker) - Parker is a top player and Bonner is cheap + expiring.
Utah Jazz- Derek Favors is good and on cheap contract
These may still use it:
Detroit Pistons- Charlie Villanueva and Greg Monroe -----I can see Charlie V amnestied
Los Angeles Lakers- Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake ----I can see any of these amnestied pending team direction
Miami Heat- Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony (Bosh, James, Wade) --- I can see Miller amnestied to save taxes
Milwaukee Bucks-: Drew Gooden and Larry Sanders-----I would say Gooden, but they are going to have to pay the minimum salary to someone.
Oklahoma City Thunder- Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, (Durant) --- Not likely, but I would not be surprised by Perkins or Sefolosha
Sacramento Kings- John Salmons, DeMarcus Cousins --- I can see Salmons amnestied
Toronto Raptors- Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza, --- I can see any of the guys amnestied, most likely Kleiza.
Atlanta Hawks- (Unlikely to amnesty only player, Al Horford)
Boston Celtics- Paul Pierce, (Rondo, Bradley)...my understanding is if they amnesty Pierce, he Is paid the full $15.3 mil Rondo and Bradley are too good to amnety
Charlotte Bobcats- Tyrus Thomas - Owner is too cheap to pay a player to leave
Chicago Bulls- Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah - Boozer has raised his trade value...all players are movable
Memphis Grizzlies- Zach Randolph, Mike Conley - Neither player is unwanted in Memphis
New Orleans Hornets- No amnesty eligible players on roster
San Antonio Spurs-: Matt Bonner, (Parker) - Parker is a top player and Bonner is cheap + expiring.
Utah Jazz- Derek Favors is good and on cheap contract
These may still use it:
Detroit Pistons- Charlie Villanueva and Greg Monroe -----I can see Charlie V amnestied
Los Angeles Lakers- Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake ----I can see any of these amnestied pending team direction
Miami Heat- Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony (Bosh, James, Wade) --- I can see Miller amnestied to save taxes
Milwaukee Bucks-: Drew Gooden and Larry Sanders-----I would say Gooden, but they are going to have to pay the minimum salary to someone.
Oklahoma City Thunder- Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, (Durant) --- Not likely, but I would not be surprised by Perkins or Sefolosha
Sacramento Kings- John Salmons, DeMarcus Cousins --- I can see Salmons amnestied
Toronto Raptors- Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza, --- I can see any of the guys amnestied, most likely Kleiza.
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Salmons have $6 million in non-guaranteed money in 14/15. If amnestied, that money becomes guaranteed. I very much doubt anyone is going to bid on him as they would have to pick up at least all non-guarantee so Kings would be on the hook for his full contract. I don't believe Kings are going attract any big name, they have a couple small moderately attractive contracts to facilitate more money coming in in a trade - Salmons will play out this season in a small role of 15 mpg, then become living cap space of up to $9,5 million dollars on July, 1st 2014.
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Good point, Gilles. I agree.
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i really don't think Detroit will use it on CV unless his cap space hinders the signing of a key FA. I really don't see a reason why to amnesty a expiring player to pay him not to play especially when expiring are valued. CV is a Shooting Big man which are highly valued across the league. Drummond needs a spread 4 when Moose is out.





