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Re: 76ers drop epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#121 » by 9th Wonder » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:32 pm

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12-29 from the field. Guy has to show up.


lol he's literally on 1 leg. Have you not been watching the games?


I have. But he's always on 1 leg at this point in the season. The excuse sort of falls flat at this point.


I don't think many people are excusing him. Expecting MVP production from a guy that's limping around the court just isn't logical. There are many examples in the past that you can fairly point to of Embiid under-delivering in the playoffs. So far, this series is not one of those. He played 39 impactful minutes and more or less hit his season averages, albeit on poor efficiency. Not to go too far down that road, because I agree that he was inefficient, but he missed four FTs and an end-of-quarter heave. All things considered, he played well.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#122 » by cgf » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:55 pm

liquidswords wrote:Was definitely a choke job but man did Maxey get manhandled twice on that final Philly possession


TBF if the refs had called that tightly it would've still been knicks ball because Maxey ran into Hart and shoved him with both hands before Brunson's jersey tug or the in-bounds :dontknow:
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#123 » by gavran » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:25 pm

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liquidswords wrote:Was definitely a choke job but man did Maxey get manhandled twice on that final Philly possession


TBF if the refs had called that tightly it would've still been knicks ball because Maxey ran into Hart and shoved him with both hands before Brunson's jersey tug or the in-bounds :dontknow:

No, that does not fit the narrative, thus is did not happen. I have still images to prove it.

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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#124 » by Nuntius » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:56 pm

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XTC wrote:It's crazy how much Embiid's game drops during the playoffs. I'm starting to feel bad for Philly fans.


It's often true that he underperforms in the playoffs, but it's obvious that he's limping around the court. Still, he managed 39 impactful minutes. There are lots of reasons to be upset as a Philly fan, this year and in years past, but I'm not disappointed with what Embiid has given, accounting for the circumstances.


I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#125 » by Quattro » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:10 pm

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XTC wrote:It's crazy how much Embiid's game drops during the playoffs. I'm starting to feel bad for Philly fans.


It's often true that he underperforms in the playoffs, but it's obvious that he's limping around the court. Still, he managed 39 impactful minutes. There are lots of reasons to be upset as a Philly fan, this year and in years past, but I'm not disappointed with what Embiid has given, accounting for the circumstances.


I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#126 » by cgf » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:12 pm

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It's often true that he underperforms in the playoffs, but it's obvious that he's limping around the court. Still, he managed 39 impactful minutes. There are lots of reasons to be upset as a Philly fan, this year and in years past, but I'm not disappointed with what Embiid has given, accounting for the circumstances.


I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


I do wonder how much is them just asking him to do too much through the course of the regular season.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#127 » by famicommander » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:12 pm

Embiid has shot under 50% in 9 consecutive playoff games.

He ain't built for the postseason. Not mentally, and damn sure not physically.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#128 » by XTC » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:13 pm

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It's often true that he underperforms in the playoffs, but it's obvious that he's limping around the court. Still, he managed 39 impactful minutes. There are lots of reasons to be upset as a Philly fan, this year and in years past, but I'm not disappointed with what Embiid has given, accounting for the circumstances.


I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


Knowing their knee issues, Kawhi and Embiid are the two guys who need to be load managed. It's pretty much what both teams need to do to have a high chance of winning it all, and extending both guys careers.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#129 » by Nuntius » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:14 pm

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It's often true that he underperforms in the playoffs, but it's obvious that he's limping around the court. Still, he managed 39 impactful minutes. There are lots of reasons to be upset as a Philly fan, this year and in years past, but I'm not disappointed with what Embiid has given, accounting for the circumstances.


I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


Agreed but if they do that, they risk not making the playoffs.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#130 » by cgf » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:17 pm

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I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


Agreed but if they do that, they risk not making the playoffs.


They might but that doesn't have to be true of a team Embiid is on...
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#131 » by aj174 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:19 pm

Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?
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Re: 76ers drop epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#132 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:20 pm

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12-29 from the field. Guy has to show up.


lol he's literally on 1 leg. Have you not been watching the games?


I have. But he's always on 1 leg at this point in the season. The excuse sort of falls flat at this point.


It's hard to say. I think the Sixers are still winning the minutes Embiid is on the court but getting demolished when he sits. At least the net ratings are insanely lopsided. He just hasn't been able to outplay the Sixers bench' ****. Remember Greg Monroe being the Raptors MVP in that Sixers series in 2019? I think he played like 2 mins in game seven and was -10 or something. Similar to that.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#133 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:21 pm

aj174 wrote:Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?


He didn't call for one until after Maxey lost control of the ball.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#134 » by XTC » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:21 pm

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I'd say that this fair. Embiid is clearly not healthy now and he's definitely giving it his all even while hobbled. And that has been a constant in Embiid's career. He is just never fully healthy in the playoffs.

But that is also the main problem with Embiid. We cannot keep expecting him to magically have a fully healthy post-season. At this point, it's probably more fair to assume that he'll be facing some kind of injury and only be 70-80% during the post-season.


If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


Agreed but if they do that, they risk not making the playoffs.


Depth is key, plus giving Maxey a bigger load so he can carry the team. The team should be able to play .500 basketball without Embiid.

Looking back at the 2019 Raptors, the way they used Kawhi was damn near perfect. Sit him vs the weaker teams, let him play vs tougher teams with minute restrictions, and unchain him come playoff time. With that being said even in that instance, he was still hobbling by the time they made the finals.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#135 » by Nuntius » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:28 pm

XTC wrote:
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If the sixers had any brains, they put him on a Kawhi Leonard circa 2019 load management plan next year. Fines be damned, MVP be damned. You've got to find a way to get this guy into the playoffs fresh and healthy.


Agreed but if they do that, they risk not making the playoffs.


Depth is key, plus giving Maxey a bigger load so he can carry the team. The team should be able to play .500 basketball without Embiid.

Looking back at the 2019 Raptors, the way they used Kawhi was damn near perfect. Sit him vs the weaker teams, let him play vs tougher teams with minute restrictions, and unchain him come playoff time. With that being said even in that instance, he was still hobbling by the time they made the finals.


Depth is indeed key but they currently don't have it. The Sixers went 16-27 in the games that Embiid missed this season. Granted, Maxey also missed some of those games but I don't think that they currently have a roster that is capable of going .500 without Embiid.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#136 » by og15 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:28 pm

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aj174 wrote:Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?


He didn't call for one until after Maxey lost control of the ball.

He called for one when they were struggling to inbound, twice it seemed, but can't change it now, it is what it is.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#137 » by gavran » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:29 pm

aj174 wrote:Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?

No, it wasn't.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#138 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:29 pm

og15 wrote:
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aj174 wrote:Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?


He didn't call for one until after Maxey lost control of the ball.

He called for one when they were struggling to inbound, twice it seemed, but can't change it now, it is what it is.


not in the video I watched. he raised his arms a couple times and thought better worse of it each time.

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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#139 » by gavran » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:30 pm

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aj174 wrote:Nick nurse timeout was ignored, the heck?


He didn't call for one until after Maxey lost control of the ball.

He called for one when they were struggling to inbound, twice it seemed, but can't change it now, it is what it is.

He might have wanted to call one. He thinks he called one. He didn't call one.
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Re: 76ers epic chokejob vs. Knicks in Game 2 

Post#140 » by 9th Wonder » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:32 pm

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Agreed but if they do that, they risk not making the playoffs.


Depth is key, plus giving Maxey a bigger load so he can carry the team. The team should be able to play .500 basketball without Embiid.

Looking back at the 2019 Raptors, the way they used Kawhi was damn near perfect. Sit him vs the weaker teams, let him play vs tougher teams with minute restrictions, and unchain him come playoff time. With that being said even in that instance, he was still hobbling by the time they made the finals.


Depth is indeed key but they currently don't have it. The Sixers went 16-27 in the games that Embiid missed this season. Granted, Maxey also missed some of those games but I don't think that they currently have a roster that is capable of going .500 without Embiid.


To be fair to the rest of the team, Philly was completely decimated by injuries for a while. There were games where 3-4 starters were missing, along with depth pieces like Covington who's been out since December.

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