Is it safe to call these guys busts?

[johnny-oh]

How are Turner and Thompson busts? I know they were picked 2nd and 4th but they weren't in particularly strong draft classes. The fact is they're putting up solid numbers. Turner doesn't have to be behind Iggy anymore. And Thompson is in his 2nd year almost averaging a double double...

For Turner

George
Wall
Cousins
Favors
Hayward
Sanders
Vasquez

Would almost certainly be drafted before him



Bledsoe
Bradley
Davis

Are arguable too.

For a #2 pick in the draft I think that qualifies.

Wall was drafted before him..

and LOL @ anybody who takes Hayward, Vasquez, Bledsoe, Bradley or Davis (and I'm a raptor fan) before Turner

[kingkirk]

And by busts, I don't necessarily mean completely useless...but not nearly as effective based off of their expectation or draft position.

Busts:

Tristan Thompson
Jan Vesely (a bust, and completely useless NBA player)
Bismack Biyombo (still young, but mediocre rebounder and 0 offensive game so far)
Evan Turner
Wesley Johnson
Ekpe Udoh
Al-Farouq Aminu
Luke Babbitt

Thompson and Turner are certainly not busts.

Thompson has really developed this season.

He won't be a 20 10 PF, but he is coming along better than i expected.

Udoh, Johson & Babbitt will be 8-12th man for the remainder or their careers, but i think Aminu will be a decent role player.

Biyombo can be anything, but i wouldn't be calling him a bust yet.

[princeofpalace]

I feel like Jan Vesely and Bismack Biyombo are definitely busts.

[This IsMy House]

I dont think Evans is a bust, I just think he was over hyped coming out of college. Still plays a pretty solid game.

[HornetJail]

Bismack Biyombo

Right. We clearly should give up on the dude. He's already 20 freaking years old and hasn't even been an all-star. Time to blow it up and trade him for a second round pick.

[SWedd523]

Bismack Biyombo

Right. We clearly should give up on the dude. He's already 20 freaking years old and hasn't even been an all-star. Time to blow it up and trade him for a second round pick.

If you had any sense you'd know he clearly lied about his age.

He's easily 32 years old, at least

[chiefkeef]

wes johnson has to be one the most surprising busts

[Fred Williamson]

I feel like Jan Vesely and Bismack Biyombo are definitely busts.

please explain how Biyombo, at the of 20, in his second NBA year, is a bust?

[doc.end]

Bismack Biyombo

Right. We clearly should give up on the dude. He's already 20 freaking years old and hasn't even been an all-star. Time to blow it up and trade him for a second round pick.

If you had any sense you'd know he clearly lied about his age.

He's easily 32 years old, at least

He's not from US though.

[MrBigShot]

I'm not Cavs fan but I'll tell you that Tristan Thompson is not a bust as of yet. He puts up 12/9/1/1 on a good FG% in 31mpg. That's pretty good. Was he the right pick? Perhaps it's debatable, but he looks good so far for a 2nd year player and I think he'll improve.

Aminu is decent, and wasn't picked all that high.

Turner has proven to be a solid all around player, but clearly not the star that people expected. People thought he was the next Brandon Roy.

Biyombo rebounds and blocks shots...what he was drafted to do.

Johnson, Udoh and Vesely are all pretty clear busts though.

[asudevil]

Johnson is a bust at this point. But he's been putting up decent numbers lately.

If he was taken at 14 instead of 4 he could arguably be considered an OK player. That's just judging him on his play now that he's had a chance to play.

[Alfred]

How are Turner and Thompson busts? I know they were picked 2nd and 4th but they weren't in particularly strong draft classes. The fact is they're putting up solid numbers. Turner doesn't have to be behind Iggy anymore. And Thompson is in his 2nd year almost averaging a double double...

For Turner

George
Wall
Cousins
Favors
Hayward
Sanders
Vasquez

Would almost certainly be drafted before him



Bledsoe
Bradley
Davis

Are arguable too.

For a #2 pick in the draft I think that qualifies.

Wall was drafted before him..

and LOL @ anybody who takes Hayward, Vasquez, Bledsoe, Bradley or Davis (and I'm a raptor fan) before Turner

All of those players, with perhaps the exception of possibly Avery Bradley are better than Turner.

[King d]

I'd take Bradley over Turner, he has an all-nba elite skill which is very valuable for his team (and I still think he has a lot of room for improvement on the offensive end)

I'd be surprised If AB doesn't make an all-nba defensive team this season, but who knows, seeing how the nba works I wouldn't be surprised as well if they give his spot to someone like Kobe Bryant...

[mrlancers]

When can we put Austin Rivers in this thread?

I'm still shaking my head at that pick. Especially with Gordon at the 2. Then they acquired Ryan Anderson at the 4 where Davis is projected to play. I'm starting to think Dell Demps suffered from a severe case of Kahnitis last summer.