docholliday99 wrote:shi-woo wrote:docholliday99 wrote:
Lots of hype and he did have skills but he had that ego; not sure how he was drafted so high (other than suggestions that Doc was pushing behind the scenes), as he was wildly inefficient, played out of control, couldn't play-make well and couldn't play a lick of defense. In the NBA, if it wasn't for Doc signing him in LA, he would have washed out quicker than he did. Instead he just bounced to 5 other teams in 5 years before washing out - 7 if you count the Suns and OKC waiving him.
Bronny may have skills, I don't know if it's NBA skills, we'll see.
Not really how I remember it. Doc def. played a part in him sticking around, but Austin wws a legit NBA player with legit NBA skills. He has one of the sickest first steps in the country, and it was hard for even elite athletes to stay in front. His handle was nice, and he was an okay shooter projected to be a good shooter. He was cocky as hell, but that's always been viewed as positive in sports, like when he hit that big shot against North Carolina. People love dudes who aren't scared of that moment. Honestly, I thought he was going to have a Chucky Atkins/Mike James type of career.
Rivers just never developed any other offensive skills, and was always going to be a poor defender.
Bronny so far, ha shown absolutely none of those things. We keep hearing about that vert, which is really telling in a game that is predicated on skill more than anything
It's actually insulting to Rivers to compare Bronny to him, they are worlds apart as prospects, and that's saying something
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Rivers was waaay over rated, he was a chucker with little playmaking or defensive skills in HS but you're correct, dude was not shy in the slightest during the big moments. At Duke, nothing really changed and had attitude problems developing - definitely got in his own way.
As for Bronny, why all the hate? He was a legitimate 4 or 5 star recruit (depending on who's reporting) and was ranked as high as 9th out of high school. He has legit defensive skills and can shoot. He's 6'1.5" with a 6'7.25" w/s and a 40.5" vert...so what he had a rough start to his collegiate career and then the cardiac incident but if he had a different name on his jersey, the physical attributes, athleticism and what he's shown in high school, would get him drafted in the mid to late first round (especially in this draft, maybe higher - highest I've seen is 13th).
What's insulting is all the hate, there's just way too much hate on this kid right now, he's done nothing to warrant such vitriol being spewed.
It's warranted though, you're talking about taking a life time opportunity / generational wealth away from a kid who might have actually earned it if he gets draffted.
LeBron literally owns the NBA media, and is the most influential person in basketball. As a player, agent, and business mogul. Any ranking you show me is not going to change my mind, ESPN having Bronny ranked #19 is essentially like saying LeBron thinks his son is the 19th best prospect. Bronny was getting recruitment letters when he was 10 years old from D1 schools, LEBron even made a public statement about it
Not really unbiased thinking, no?
He did not have an incredible career, that's what is bringing all the haters out. This kid averaged 13.8/5.5/2.7 his senior year. He averaged 8.8/3.3/2.8 his Junior year. He averaged 5 points his Freshman year in college.
Which is embarrassing when you consider he's a year older than his actual class. He will be 20 by the time the NBA season actually starts, and as you mentioned has already had a major major health condition.
Nothing about this kid screams NBA.
You keep bringing up his measurable s, like 6'1 with a 40 inch vert in something that gets you drafted. It doesn't, especially when you are projected as a defensive player. Compare him to Stephon Castle, and it starts to look really bad. You don't draft guards based on their athletic ability alone, that is reserved for wings or people with actual size.
What player in the NBA today has that build and skillset? None, the best comp is Avery Bradley, who's measurments were actually better, and he actually showed skills/put up stats in HS and College.
You guys are reaching, hard with this kid
The most important number to know whne it comes to Bronny in terms of draft is his $10+ million Net Worth rating. That's what people are drafting, nothing more and nothing less. People want to be able to sell this kid for $$ and the story, that's it.
I can't believe you actually have people comparing him to Donovan Mitchel in this thread, it's getting absurd
