CMV: "Playoff Murray" isn't sustainable and it hinders the Nuggets potential

[Woodsanity]

He is a fringe all star in regular season and a solid all star level guy in the playoffs. Always has been my view. That being said he can be a very frustrating player at times but he can turn into a microwave even after going like 4-16 like today's game.

[Blazing_royale]

It is sustainable

[CIN-C-STAR]

Guy's game just isn't built around cheap fouls but buckets, so it holds up in the playoffs.
He's like the anti-Harden, and I love it.
I think it's sustainable, so long as he stays healthy.

[Peregrine01]

He is a fringe all star in regular season and a solid all star level guy in the playoffs. Always has been my view. That being said he can be a very frustrating player at times but he can turn into a microwave even after going like 4-16 like today's game.

He’s got Kobe’s mentality, for good or bad.

[durden_tyler]

Unsustainable yeah. :LOL

[Primedeion]

He is a fringe all star in regular season and a solid all star level guy in the playoffs. Always has been my view. That being said he can be a very frustrating player at times but he can turn into a microwave even after going like 4-16 like today's game.

Lol. He's been way better than just all-star level over his postseason career.

[EH15]

This thread going straight into RealGM HoF

[jkvonny]

I always thought it was a stretch to call the Nuggets favorites to win this year. Jokoc is absolutely incredibly and easily the best player in the league. The guy has GOAT potential. But he doesn't have quite enough help around him to be THE title favorites. The team fits around him perfectly, but this is a star driven league. Having a 2nd star is huge. Turning it up like Murray did last year just isn't sustainable. You can't expect a guy to play that much better in the playoffs.

Until they get a 2nd star, I don't think Jokic wins more than 1 more chip, if that.

C'mon, dude.

Way too early to make threads like this.

[JimmyFromNz]

Besides the obvious elephant in the room from today - what has been hindered?

Them winning the championship last year whilst being the favourite to win the west in 2024?

Seems pretty inane sorry.

[Marvin Martian]

Guy's game just isn't built around cheap fouls but buckets, so it holds up in the playoffs.
He's like the anti-Harden, and I love it.
I think it's sustainable, so long as he stays healthy.

Jimmy Butler is arguably a worse foul baiter than Harden and he led the Heat to 2 finals

[lessthanjake]

Not sure today is the day for people to be taking a victory lap on this. Murray was genuinely bad today. Hit a great game winner, but he was bad and if he’d been even okay then there’d have been no need for a game winner.

[turnaroundJ]

Guy's game just isn't built around cheap fouls but buckets, so it holds up in the playoffs.
He's like the anti-Harden, and I love it.
I think it's sustainable, so long as he stays healthy.

Jimmy Butler is arguably a worse foul baiter than Harden and he led the Heat to 2 finals

jimmy has elite mid range, off-ball, and post game skills. hustle and defense too

[Goose egg]

Murray is a leader. Having him allows Jokic to not have to deal with the pressure of leadership/enforcer. It is the exact same dynamic as Steph + Draymond (except positionally reversed) and is why both teams have insane success

People will just not get this but having a guy like Murray out there makes the rest of your team better in a way even Jokic does not. It’s called inspiration

[Lalouie]

I always thought it was a stretch to call the Nuggets favorites to win this year. Jokoc is absolutely incredibly and easily the best player in the league. The guy has GOAT potential. But he doesn't have quite enough help around him to be THE title favorites. The team fits around him perfectly, but this is a star driven league. Having a 2nd star is huge. Turning it up like Murray did last year just isn't sustainable. You can't expect a guy to play that much better in the playoffs.

Until they get a 2nd star, I don't think Jokic wins more than 1 more chip, if that.

he doesn't need one...it's a parity year.

in case you haven't noticed, the well worn saying that "you need three stars" has long passed. it's down to two,,,,MAYBE. there are only a few teams with two stars. if this was at the beginning of the millenium, jokic would need a better second mate

now there's lebron/ad,,,giannis/lillard,,,tatum/brown???,,,embiid/maxey???

[ChipotleWest]

Narrative: Joker has no help
-Murray sucked
-Porter took Murray's place all game as the 2nd guy
-Murray hits game winner
-Joker has no help

[zeebneeb]

I've been coming to this site for over 20 years now, and in all that time, the same damn mistakes keep getting repeated by posters on the general board;

Poorly timed hot-take threads, with definitive statements.

Threads like these, are a surefire way to look like the rear-end of a hooved animal, but if it hasn't stopped in 20+ years, it will never stop.

Enjoy the mocking and shame. There will be more.

[Pelly24]

Jamal stepped up big time. But most other teams couldn't have beaten the lakers tonight with him playing so poorly for most of the game. Jokic is just incredibly, incredibly good and the pieces are perfect for this team to succeed with him. But I look at Jamal as a legit all-star when you factor in the playoffs.

[Tor_Raps]

Posts like this are reason to abandon your current username and start all over on RealGM lol.

[ChuckChilly]

Jamal Murray is a glorified Jamal Crawford who has a low BBIQ and chooses to engage in personal battles to the detriment of his team. Thankfully, he has Jokic available as an almost father-like figure that can reign in his bad behavior and show him the way. Like he does with the rest of the teammates, Jokic (The System) elevates Murray to new levels when Murray is zoned in and restrained.

Perfectly stated

[Gatorade Sax]

This aged about as well as a bowl of fruit in summer.