Bostons road to finals

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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#21 » by badpotato » Sun May 19, 2024 10:24 pm

nbafan38 wrote:
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nbafan38 wrote:They are >-1000 favorite in every single series in the east playoffs? Has that ever happened before?


I don't pay attention to odds, but you might look at Lebron's teams from 2011-2018, Dude basically ran the entire conference year in and out, his finals appareance was a forgone conclusion up until he moved West.


Surprisingly none of those years were they this heavy favorites. 2013 was the closest but the ECF was only -850.


Thank's for checking, still Boston got this unique situation where their biggest rivals in Bucks and Sixers both lost a step, while they have only gotten stronger with Porzingis pickup that worked out nicely.
They sit at the top of the Conference, just like Lebron was back in the days - the unusual odds are just byproduct of East being historically decimated by injuries this year, most likely it will never happen again.

Yeah, it feels like Celtics road is one of the easiest imaginable, but they can only play who's in front of them.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#22 » by BrianInPhilly » Sun May 19, 2024 10:26 pm

I'm seeing the odds at -900 for Celtics, not "more than" -1000 as you state.

Seems too high though - objectively during season Pacers played them well, add on Pacers offense rolling, Porzingis banged up ... It should be -300 to -500 range. As we saw in last season anything injury wise can screw things up too. Tatum goes out Game 1 and suddenly it would be about a "pick em" series in my opinion.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#23 » by nbafan38 » Sun May 19, 2024 10:27 pm

BrianInPhilly wrote:I'm seeing the odds at -900 for Celtics, not "more than" -1000 as you state.

Seems too high though - objectively during season Pacers played them well, add on Pacers offense rolling, Porzingis banged up ... It should be -300 to -500 range. As we saw in last season anything injury wise can screw things up too. Tatum goes out Game 1 and suddenly it would be about a "pick em" series in my opinion.


Maybe it depends on the sportsbook. Fanduel they are -1300.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#24 » by Celts17Pride » Sun May 19, 2024 10:27 pm

Maybe it’s because the Celtics are good, 72-20 this year
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#25 » by RB34 » Sun May 19, 2024 10:29 pm

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KamikazeK wrote:What about Indiana's road to the finals. Nothing but injured teams, even now in the ECF.

Don't know if anyone remembers this, but there was a speed skater who won the gold from last place because a crash happened and everyone else fell and he was so far back the collision didn't affect him. That is basically the pacers this year. They aren't great, but everyone else is getting injured and they are reaping the rewards


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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#26 » by AussieCeltic » Sun May 19, 2024 10:32 pm

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KamikazeK wrote:What about Indiana's road to the finals. Nothing but injured teams, even now in the ECF.

Don't know if anyone remembers this, but there was a speed skater who won the gold from last place because a crash happened and everyone else fell and he was so far back the collision didn't affect him. That is basically the pacers this year. They aren't great, but everyone else is getting injured and they are reaping the rewards


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Funny story about him. I was at a club in Brisbane not long after he’d won and he was there. Everyone was pretending to fall over in front of him haha. He was a good sport about it. People were buying him drinks all night as well.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#27 » by life_saver » Sun May 19, 2024 10:58 pm

Just an absolute joke lol. Atleast things might have been slightly more interesting without injuries to Heat, Cavs, Knicks but sigh... it's one thing to have your 2nd or 3rd option getting injured but Heat, Cavs had their first option injured
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#28 » by Celts17Pride » Sun May 19, 2024 11:03 pm

Maybe teams should go for the #1 seed instead of resting 35% of the games
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#29 » by web123888 » Sun May 19, 2024 11:06 pm

The East is incredibly weak. Out West Boston would be a 1st or at best 2nd round exit.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#30 » by life_saver » Sun May 19, 2024 11:09 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Maybe teams should go for the #1 seed instead of resting 35% of the games

This is quite disingenuous argument. Obviously No1 seed is a helpful factor but here, it has more to do with injuries than seeding. A healthy Heat team with Butler not being injured and Cavs with Mitchell not being injured would have made things atleast little bit more interesting. Also a healthy Knicks team likely would have won 2nd Round and atleast would have made ECF bit more interesting.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#31 » by life_saver » Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 pm

East was already relatively weak and these injuries made it even more weaker. Like I doubt Pacers would have even made playoffs in West
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#32 » by Celts17Pride » Sun May 19, 2024 11:12 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Maybe teams should go for the #1 seed instead of resting 35% of the games

This is quite disingenuous argument. Obviously No1 seed is a helpful factor but here, it has more to do with injuries than seeding. A healthy Heat team with Butler not being injured and Cavs with Mitchell not being injured would have made things atleast little bit more interesting. Also a healthy Knicks team likely would have won 2nd Round and atleast would have made ECF bit more interesting.

If Butler and Mitchell were healthy the Celtics would be in the same exact spot they are today
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#33 » by Baz » Sun May 19, 2024 11:18 pm

In a way it might not necessarily benefit them because they won't be hardened for the finals. If they win the finals they'll deserve it. Don't want to hear any of this asterisks BS.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#34 » by ItsDanger » Sun May 19, 2024 11:19 pm

If they win the championship, nobody will remember this part.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#35 » by brackdan70 » Sun May 19, 2024 11:24 pm

Nice. We needed a third thread on this.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#36 » by wegotthabeet » Sun May 19, 2024 11:26 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Maybe teams should go for the #1 seed instead of resting 35% of the games


maybe the league should move to 1 vs 16. that way no one can complain about who had an easier path to the Finals.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#37 » by bmurph128 » Sun May 19, 2024 11:28 pm

guynumber45 wrote:
nbafan38 wrote:They are >-1000 favorite in every single series in the east playoffs? Has that ever happened before?


Those Lebron Cavs during his second stint there felt similar. East was just as weak during those years

Nah no way we were huge favorites in 2015 - the Bulls were good and we got a little lucky they dealt with some injuries. And then the 60 win Hawks were a paper tiger, but again no way we were favored by that much. 2016 and 2017 maybe....and then in 2018 we were underdogs to both Toronto and Boston.

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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#38 » by itrsteve » Sun May 19, 2024 11:29 pm

So #1 seed in the NBA is best positioned to go to the finals?

GET OUT OF TOWN

These threads are strange. If they don't win it all then it doesn't matter if 60ppg Jimmy Butler was hurt.
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#39 » by baldur » Sun May 19, 2024 11:34 pm

How many times a 7th or 8th seed won the championship in the entire history? You can't float the season, go to play in tournament with 40 wins and act like a contender. That's a wet dream. Ask clippers :)
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Re: Bostons road to finals 

Post#40 » by Johnny Fontane » Sun May 19, 2024 11:35 pm

Indiana about to get thoroughly handled. Even if they take one of the first two games, there’s too many glaring weakness on that team

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