D-Will: Felton better PG than Lin

[daschysta]

Forget Lin. Felton will prove this year he is one of the better PGs in the NBA. I like coach Woodson for him. He plays defense, can push the ball, get in the lane, make plays for his teammates, shoot it a little bit from the outside and mid-range.... tough minded player. Has a chip on his shoulder and seems to be in great shape. Deron Williams has respect for Ray with good reason. I like Lin but I don't love him. He's not a Knick anymore. Being realistic about the situation, he has a lot to prove before people say he's a better player than Felton, despite Felton's down year with Portland in '12. As a Knicks fan, I'm really excited and pleased to have Felton on the team. Kidd and Prigs off the bench, the Knicks are more than fine at the PG position. Could be their strongest position considering all 3 guys can contribute and play the 1 the way it's meant to be played.

Prigs looks like a diamond in the rough, but he's what like 35 years old? He can be a decent bench player next year, but if Felton/Kidd/Prigs represents your strongest position than you guys are screwed, none of them are even better than average as a starter. Luckily it isn't your strongest position, SF or Center is just by merit of Chandler and Anthony.

[Tacoma]

All of this is simply one thing: Jealousy.

Lin produced on the court. The hype was deserved for what he did do during that time. It's not like he was putting up mediocre stats and losing games and getting undeserved attention for his ethnicity or something.

He wasn't just playing well he was breaking all-time records as well as winning. Dropping 38 on the Lakers. 28/14 on Dallas hitting shots in Dirk's face, etc.

Also that myth that Miami "exposed" him just irritates me. Do people forget his games AFTER that game where he played very well? If he was "exposed" then why didn't other teams simply shut him down like Miami did since according to most the magic formula to stopping him was figured out?

19/13 vs Cleveland the very next game
20/13 vs Milwaukee
19/7/6 vs Indiana
18/10 vs Toronto
18/4 vs Philly - 16 points in the 4th quarter

Not to mention it's likely he was playing with a meniscus tear for the latter half of the games last year.

Jealousy? Seriously? Why would DWill be jealous of Lin? No reason at all. You don't think that players know who the best are in every league?

Lin produced on a very high level for two weeks. Then Linsanity was over. You need to look more deeply into numbers of the games you've noted. His shooting % dropped from about .530 during Linsanity to about .420 in essentially one month.

That means he was putting up points, but much less efficiently.

We'll see what happens this year. With Lin and Harden on the same team, there'll be a game-by-game analysis on how they do on their own.

No. It was more than 2 weeks; almost 2 months from early Feb to late Mar before he got injured. Not surprisingly, he started to tail off after Melo came back.

By "jealousy" he was probably referring to DWill always flies under the media radar never getting much attention. Lin got more attention in those 2 months than DWill has had in his career. I'm not saying DWill should be jealous, but if there was jealousy, that'd be it.

[Speedlot]

What a moron. Felton bashes your team for talking too much trash, then you go and praise him back. I guess it's easy to hate on the Asian guy that stomped your team and became famous because it. Lin has been nothing but classy.

Shut up and worry about your own team.

[Kabookalu]

I'm a huge Lin fan but I don't see anything wrong with what Williams said, and I feel a little bit inclined to agree. Lin has fantastic court vision but his "point guard" instincts are not nearly up to par. Felton's been dogged on the past couple of years for being fat but he's not that bad of a point guard.

[MrBigShot]

:lol: Deron's Nets will again be a lottery team this season. Trust me.

This is what they call a red herring folks, nothing to do with what D-Will said. Whether or not Felton bashed his own team has nothing to with it either.

Scenario 1: Felton praises nets.
Scenario 2(what actually happened): Felton bags on Nets.

Either way, it doesn't change his ability as a PG...why the HECK would Dwill base his opinion on what someone says to the media? Some of the people on this board...

Imo Lin still has a lot to prove. He has to prove he can play well over a longer period of time, and that his run wasn't just a hot streak.

[yunaclf]

Deron Williams isn't exactly the guy I would trust on his opinion of talented players.

[Deus]

Hot streaks last 5-10 games. Lin won 16 out of 26 games for the Knicks. 8 out of 9 without Melo.

[Archerbro]

i guess some forget, linsanity started with jeremy lin breakout game on deron william's defense.

also the next net and knick game, Deron went ham on the knicks as if he wanted to make a point.. I'm sure Dwill

hasn't forgotten jeremy lin torching him though.

[XcalibuR]

lol can't believe D-Will is still butt hurt.

[Bucked19]

What a moron. Felton bashes your team for talking too much trash, then you go and praise him back. I guess it's easy to hate on the Asian guy that stomped your team and became famous because it. Lin has been nothing but classy.

Shut up and worry about your own team.

Then he dropped 38 in his face

[9abovetherim]

:lol: Deron's Nets will again be a lottery team this season. Trust me.

if lopez doesnt play 50% games then yes, otherwise they are top 5-7 team in east imo

[East_Coast]

No. It was more than 2 weeks; almost 2 months from early Feb to late Mar before he got injured. Not surprisingly, he started to tail off after Melo came back.

By "jealousy" he was probably referring to DWill always flies under the media radar never getting much attention. Lin got more attention in those 2 months than DWill has had in his career. I'm not saying DWill should be jealous, but if there was jealousy, that'd be it.

DWill simply stated the truth -- Felton is a better pg than Lin. These stupid conspiracy theories involving jealousy need to end. Felton is a true pg, whose focus is on getting the ball to his primary scorers. Lin is a high-turnover, low % shooting pg who looks for a shot as frequently as he does to pass.

Linsanity is defined as a period in which Lin performed on a very high level. That period listed for exactly 10 games -- from Feb. 4 vs. NJ, when he scored 25, until Feb. 19 vs. Dallas, when he scored 28. The next game, against NJ again, he shot .389 (7-18) ,and it began his steep drop in shooting %. The game after that he scored 17 against Atlanta -- a good game, but nothing very noteworthy.

Then came the game that officially ended Linsanity against the Heat on Feb. 23. Finally, someone did a good job of keying in on Lin, and quite frankly he looked like a terrified rookie, shooting 1-11 (.091).

After that, Lin's games were incredibly uneven, as shown by the following shooting percentages: 375 vs. Boston, .308 vs. Dallas, .278 vs Philly, .364 vs. Chicago, .235 vs. Philly.

Note that Carmelo had absolutely nothing to do with how well Lin shot the ball. That's all under Lin's control. People forget that even after Melo returned, Lin was still getting plenty of shots. He just wasn't making them nearly as much as during Linsanity.

[BeasleyTheBeast]

What a moron. Felton bashes your team for talking too much trash, then you go and praise him back. I guess it's easy to hate on the Asian guy that stomped your team and became famous because it. Lin has been nothing but classy.

Shut up and worry about your own team.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN8CYbmVRHU[/youtube]

[noto12ious]

No. It was more than 2 weeks; almost 2 months from early Feb to late Mar before he got injured. Not surprisingly, he started to tail off after Melo came back.

By "jealousy" he was probably referring to DWill always flies under the media radar never getting much attention. Lin got more attention in those 2 months than DWill has had in his career. I'm not saying DWill should be jealous, but if there was jealousy, that'd be it.

DWill simply stated the truth -- Felton is a better pg than Lin. These stupid conspiracy theories involving jealousy need to end. Felton is a true pg, whose focus is on getting the ball to his primary scorers. Lin is a high-turnover, low % shooting pg who looks for a shot as frequently as he does to pass.

Linsanity is defined as a period in which Lin performed on a very high level. That period listed for exactly 10 games -- from Feb. 4 vs. NJ, when he scored 25, until Feb. 19 vs. Dallas, when he scored 28. The next game, against NJ again, he shot .389 (7-18) ,and it began his steep drop in shooting %. The game after that he scored 17 against Atlanta -- a good game, but nothing very noteworthy.

Then came the game that officially ended Linsanity against the Heat on Feb. 23. Finally, someone did a good job of keying in on Lin, and quite frankly he looked like a terrified rookie, shooting 1-11 (.091).

After that, Lin's games were incredibly uneven, as shown by the following shooting percentages: 375 vs. Boston, .308 vs. Dallas, .278 vs Philly, .364 vs. Chicago, .235 vs. Philly.

Note that Carmelo had absolutely nothing to do with how well Lin shot the ball. That's all under Lin's control. People forget that even after Melo returned, Lin was still getting plenty of shots. He just wasn't making them nearly as much as during Linsanity.

linsanity is merely a nickname. nothing more. you're a proven liar, so it's not surprising you left out several of lin's dominating performances in march.

vs pacers and hibbert:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De7M701rzf8[/youtube]

vs 76ers brand and holiday:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ICoHolZIk[/youtube]

enjoy those clips destroying your entire post. pathetic revisionist boxscore only analysis

[Nowitness]

They're both inconsistent PGs imo.

[tsherkin]

If you're going to call someone a "proven liar," you're going to have to back that up, or it's a personal attack.

[TheGarden]

Here's the thing. Lin was getting all the credit for our wins while guys like Tyson Chandler, Jared Jeffries, Steve Novak and Iman Shumpert got no praise for their efforts because without them stepping up we dont win.

Lin played good but became bigger than the team even when he got STAT and Melo back he still tried to do it all and thats why we started losing. He was shooting too many shots. Him, STAT and Melo shot 14+ shots a night and that isn't good. Look at Rondo, he only shoots or tried to score when its there same with CP3 and Nash.

I think everyone can agree that Lin is over rated, he's good but not an All-Star and not an Elite PG

[noto12ious]

If you're going to call someone a "proven liar," you're going to have to back that up, or it's a personal attack.

east_coast spews plenty of lies. repeatedly. when proven wrong and cornered with facts, be they medical facts or facts directly from lin's mouth (CNNSI interviews as examples), east_coast has chosen to duck out of every single thread he's been caught lying.

one of numerous examples.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1200400&start=105

enjoy.

[Mirjalovic]

Of course Felton is a better PG (when in shape), as much as i enjoy Linsanity period, i think Lin still so raw, but i expect him to polished his game this season.

[yunaclf]

Here's the thing. Lin was getting all the credit for our wins while guys like Tyson Chandler, Jared Jeffries, Steve Novak and Iman Shumpert got no praise for their efforts because without them stepping up we dont win.

Lin played good but became bigger than the team even when he got STAT and Melo back he still tried to do it all and thats why we started losing. He was shooting too many shots. Him, STAT and Melo shot 14+ shots a night and that isn't good. Look at Rondo, he only shoots or tried to score when its there same with CP3 and Nash.

I think everyone can agree that Lin is over rated, he's good but not an All-Star and not an Elite PG

You're complaining about Lin getting all the credit for the wins, then you hold only him responsible for the losses?? How about Stat who can't play defense? Melo who wasn't in rhythm at all (understandably so considering he was coming off an injury) and couldn't buy a bucket??

Yeah, Lin played well during his stretch, but the people who really overrated him was the NY media (and haters who like to stick words in his fans' mouths). There aren't many of his fans who claim he's an elite pg.