What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist?

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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#32 » by tsherkin » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:08 pm

I'm still waiting to see year two but yeah, I like MKG's overall value projection compared to Lillard's. DL had a 2011 Rose-like impact on portland's offense because it was such crap apart from him and he's a solid player but is overall not really stunning as a projected player without a major change.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#33 » by BackseatBoss » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:10 pm

I really hope he can fix his shooting mechanics, because it's the only thing preventing him from becoming great. Can easily become an elite defender with a bunch 1st team all-defense mentions. Also already a pretty great rebounder for his position. Let's not forget that he's only 19 years old and his rookie season didn't necessarily scream bust.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#34 » by Mr. Krabs » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:13 pm

Would look much better if he wasn't the 2nd pick, and wasn't chosen over Drummond, Lillard and Barnes.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#35 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:23 pm

Mr. Krabs wrote:Would look much better if he wasn't the 2nd pick, and wasn't chosen over Drummond, Lillard and Barnes.


If he ever develops any kind of a jump shot he very well could be better than all 3. We will know for certain in 3 years or so, that's how long it may take.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#36 » by RaptorNews » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:38 pm

Mr. Krabs wrote:Would look much better if he wasn't the 2nd pick, and wasn't chosen over Drummond, Lillard and Barnes.



I think Beal could end up being the second best player from that draft behind Davis
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#37 » by Juggynaut » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:51 pm

He's like Gerald Wallace, an athletic hustler.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#38 » by Tave » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:02 am

I like the Wallace comparison as well, although MKG already has a better handle and floor game. He won't need to play so reckless to contribute on offense if he can find his stroke.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#39 » by Kupchak9 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:04 am

He's got alot of potential could be the next Marion-Wallace hybrid, but I don't see him being as good as the rest of the upcoming SFs, including the ones in the 2014 draft.

He would be a second-tier SF in the league in 3-4 years

The SF position is looking very deep.

Tier 1:
Lebron
Durant
Wiggins (Kobe?)
George (Pippen?)
Parker (Melo?)

Tier 2:
Leonard (Worthy?)
MKG (Marion?)
Gallo
Batum
Harris?
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#40 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:45 am

I have no idea why people are so down on a guy who was the youngest player in the NBA who put up per 36 numbers of 12.5/8.1/2.1/1.0/1.2

The Marion comparison obviously makes sense as well as the Gerald Wallace but he reminds me more of Kirilenko to be honest, the guy is a stat stuffer.

He is an awesome defender both on the perimiter and in the post and his help defense is ridiculous.

Shooting is the single most overrated aspect of basketball.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#41 » by jman23 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:52 am

Needs to fix his jump shot and create a bit more of an offensive game, but besides that I like his potential.... He just needs more seasoning....
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#42 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:01 am

Marion averaged 20 & 11 over a 3 year stretch. I'd be absolutely thrilled if MKG could do that one day.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#43 » by Eoghan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:15 am

The Gerald Wallace comparison sucks IMO. Crash is a much springier, rangier athlete than MKG and their games have enough differences. I think he's more like a young Ron Artest except a worse shooter and a much better head/feel for the game. I think the jumper is going to get fixed to a respectable level, with the ceiling of a Mashburn-like midrange game but probably never a long distance threat.

What he does well: Rebound, finish around the rim, get hustle buckets, defense, handles for a SF, post up and slash. Pretty much everything.

What he doesn't do well: Shoot, defend without fouling (nit picking, statistically he's fine but he got carried away with overaggressive defense last year in spurts, shouldn't be a problem going forward), get to the foul line enough (rookie treatment hosed him last year).

All he has to do to join the realm of most-talked about SFs is get a respectable shot and refine his game with some veteran tricks and know-how.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#44 » by Ayt » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:48 am

I think he should try shooting underhand from the field.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#45 » by witnessraps » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:51 am

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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#46 » by twozeroMM » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:58 am

Because of his motor and work ethic, he'll be in this league for a while. His driving skills are nice and are only going to get better but he does need to fix that jumper.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#47 » by Illmatic21 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:35 am

Mr. Krabs wrote:Would look much better if he wasn't the 2nd pick, and wasn't chosen over Drummond, Lillard and Barnes.

Drummond maybe, but I would probably still take him over Lillard and Barnes.

Not Beal, though.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#48 » by old rem » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:47 am

Han Solo wrote:Well-Rounded player with hustle / but a horribly bad broken jumpshot


Gilchrist has some various tools and skills...all a bit raw. He is just a couple yr out of high school,is a wing without a very good jump shoot. Just being athletic can get you so far. I expect over time he develops but to be a plus as a SF...you need to score and it helps a lot to shoot well.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#49 » by GiannisIce » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:06 am

People are overreacting.
He will probably never reach the top 5 or top 10 in the NBA, but he has the tools to become something like the second best player for a contender.
Despite his shooting woes, he averaged 9 points per game in the age of 19, in a very troubled team.
He is already a very good finisher and a clever cutter. If he can improve his midrange jumper from the 30% territory that it is now to about 40%, he will be alright offensively.
His passing, defense, rebounding and his instincts are impressive for his age.
I expect him to average something like 13/8/2/1.5/1, which is not bad for a 20 year old SF.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Kidd Gilchrist? 

Post#50 » by big_ticket » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:29 am

bust,overrated

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