Rondo - team cancer?

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Re: Rondo - team cancer? 

Post#46 » by RondoToKG » Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:59 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:Rondo left the 2010 FIBA championships amid curious circumstances -- the team said he withdrew for personal reasons, but his departure came after he received a DNP-CD during an exhibition game against Spain. Rondo told Fox Sports Florida he left of his own accord because he was "homesick."


He was pissed about his position on the team I believe
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Post#47 » by smith2373 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:00 am

RutgersBJJ wrote:Why do you think he was so close to getting traded a year ago? You think teams go out of their way to shop their youngest and best player if he isn't a douche?


Rondo wasn't getting shopped because of his attitude. He was being shopped because Danny Ainge didn't know if he could trust having Rondo as his best player once the Big 3 all left for the years coming. And what do you know, Rondo has the best season of his career and helps lead the team to the ECF, and now Danny Ainge deems Rondo untradeable.
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Post#48 » by Dez » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:06 am

When did he "fued" with Rose and LeBron?
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Post#49 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:07 am

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RutgersBJJ wrote:Why do you think he was so close to getting traded a year ago? You think teams go out of their way to shop their youngest and best player if he isn't a douche?


Rondo wasn't getting shopped because of his attitude. He was being shopped because Danny Ainge didn't know if he could trust having Rondo as his best player once the Big 3 all left for the years coming. And what do you know, Rondo has the best season of his career and helps lead the team to the ECF, and now Danny Ainge deems Rondo untradeable.


How do you know it wasn't that Ainge couldn't get what he wanted for Rondo, so he gave up and stopped trying to avoid making him angrier?
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Re: Rondo - team cancer? 

Post#50 » by kobeaki » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:08 am

Frank Dux wrote:I liken his personality to that of Kobe's. Both are a little odd, alienate certain teammates, and aren't the best with the media. But you can't say Rondo isn't out there giving it 100% on the court, putting the team on his back, and making everyone on that roster better.

Ray-Ray comes off as the bigger baby of the situation. He's really that butthurt about a younger, better player becoming the "man" on the Celtics that he had to bail out for the superfriends in south beach? loser move IMO. You don't join your rival right after getting ousted by them in the playoffs.

Rondo is just fine, his attitude, like Bryant's is what makes him a great player.



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Post#51 » by Tave » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:17 am

As others have pointed out, Rondo's personality and demeanor have been the subject of criticism his entire career going back Kentucky. Meanwhile, Ray is the NBA spokesperson for multiple charity foundations, recipient of the NBA Sportsmanship award, and by all accounts a standup guy.

Now, it's unfair to judge a person solely on their reputation. Maybe Ray is actually a pathological super-diva who is so devious he's managed to hide it from everyone all these years. Maybe the alleged Rondo feud was an isolated incident that just got to him. I still haven't heard him say anything bad about Rondo, and I haven't heard Rondo say anything bad about him, so whatever happened, both have kept it professional, which should be good enough for all of us.


On a side note, the only story I can remember involving Ray talking trash about another player was that 2004 spat between him and Kobe. Does anyone remember that? I thought Ray hit the nail on the head.

"He feels like he needs to show the league and the people in this country that he is better without Shaq, that he can win without Shaq," Allen said. "That he can still average 30 points and he can still carry the load on this team.

The point production is not so much what people will look at because (Tracy) McGrady did it in Orlando and Allen (Iverson) did it in Philly. But can you win championships? I think that is special. Can he make everybody better?

"He has the talent. But is his attitude going to sometimes allow him to take the backseat and let Lamar Odom shine and let Caron Butler have his nights and bring those big guys (Chris Mihm and Slava Medvedenko) along?"

Allen predicted that the Lakers would not be nearly as successful with their current roster and that that would eventually make Bryant frustrated.

"If Kobe doesn't see that he needs two and a half good players on this team to be a legitimate playoff contender and maybe win a championship, in about a year or two he will be calling out to (Lakers owner) Jerry Buss that we need some help in here, or trade me. We'll all be saying we told you so when he says that."


Allen also took exception to Bryant's trash-talking.

"I think he talks because he feels like he has to talk," Allen said. "He's out there playing, and if he does something good he feels like he needs to pat himself on the back. Because to me it seems like he is isolated out there. As much as it's five-on-five, I don't see much camaraderie going on out there with his teammates."

Allen said at the end of the game, when a Sonics comeback victory was nearly decided, Bryant remained intent upon proving how good he was. When Antonio Daniels told 6-foot-8, 250-pound power forward Reggie Evans to get out on Bryant defensively, Allen said Bryant began to say how he was now 230 pounds and how he could take Evans.

"I was like, 'Well go ahead and take him then,'" Allen said. "He's fighting all these battles that he doesn't need to fight, meanwhile his team is losing the war."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hughes_frank&id=1945983

Is that bolded part eerie or what? Ray is a prophet. :lol:
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Post#52 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:25 am

Ray is the man.
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Post#53 » by smith2373 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:27 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
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RutgersBJJ wrote:Why do you think he was so close to getting traded a year ago? You think teams go out of their way to shop their youngest and best player if he isn't a douche?


Rondo wasn't getting shopped because of his attitude. He was being shopped because Danny Ainge didn't know if he could trust having Rondo as his best player once the Big 3 all left for the years coming. And what do you know, Rondo has the best season of his career and helps lead the team to the ECF, and now Danny Ainge deems Rondo untradeable.


How do you know it wasn't that Ainge couldn't get what he wanted for Rondo, so he gave up and stopped trying to avoid making him angrier?


Because Ainge wouldn't have made Rondo untradeable if he was trying to get rid of him, despite the fact that he didn't like the offers that were made. He obviously made Rondo untradeable because he wants to keep him with the team and sees him as the future of the team.
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Post#54 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:33 am

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its cause Rose is HIS bitch right? 8-)
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Post#55 » by narmerguy » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:43 am

Lots of excuses made so willingly for Rondo because he "gives it his all" and has authority problems. Can you imagine if LeBron had reports of alienating teammates or throwing tantrums? The slightest reports about Dwight being cancerous and everyone is up in arms about the dude. Lord help Westbrook if he did such things, despite giving his all on the court.
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Post#56 » by Dez » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:47 am

narmerguy wrote:Lots of excuses made so willingly for Rondo because he "gives it his all" and has authority problems. Can you imagine if LeBron had reports of alienating teammates or throwing tantrums? The slightest reports about Dwight being cancerous and everyone is up in arms about the dude. Lord help Westbrook if he did such things, despite giving his all on the court.


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Post#57 » by burgundy » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:52 am

Would Dwight sign with the Celtics if Rondo was on the team?
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Re: Rondo - team cancer? 

Post#58 » by smith2373 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 6:54 am

burgundy wrote:Would Dwight sign with the Celtics if Rondo was on the team?


Dwight won't sign with the Celtics no matter who's on the team cause we don't play in New York or Hollywood.
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Post#59 » by Ripp » Sun Jul 8, 2012 7:03 am

RutgersBJJ wrote:Why do you think he was so close to getting traded a year ago? You think teams go out of their way to shop their youngest and best player if he isn't a douche?



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Post#60 » by StojkoVrankovic » Sun Jul 8, 2012 7:11 am

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Pimpwerx wrote:He comes off as a dick on the court. Rude to officials, and scowls too much for someone playing a game. He just doesn't seem like a likable guy. That's also got something to do with his off-court appearances on camera and comments from some local guys about how he treats people off the court. I wouldn't call him a cancer, but he's not one of those positive locker room guys. He can change with time. PEACE.

You just described LeBron James, except Rondo is faithful to his wife. PEACE

When have you seen Lebron being a dick off or on the court? And describe what being a dick is. I consider Rondo disrespecting the refs verbally, chucking the ball at them as disrespectful. Off the court, we've seen him shove and try to intimidate reporters/cameramen before. You've never seen that from Lebron. All reports are he's a nice guy. The hate for Lebron is born from people's personal disdain for the guy, not his actions. People who work with him all love him. Figure that. PEACE.

I know for a fact he can be a douche off the court. Most folks on this board have jobs, I have no clue what you do for a living just like you have no clue what I do.

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Post#61 » by Frank Mulely » Sun Jul 8, 2012 7:31 am

maybe more like team herpes i.e. annoying but non-lethal.
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Post#62 » by HotRocks34 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 7:54 am

Wojo put it right.

Ray grew up with a military background. Respects authority, disciplined, calm.

Rondo is new school, not big on authority, moody.

I think Rondo acts like a punk, but that is part of what makes him great. If he didn't have that attitude, he would not be as good.

Key for him is to figure out how to deal with that attitude and get along well with other people.

Someone compared him with Kobe. I think that is a pretty good comparison.
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Post#63 » by StatLine » Sun Jul 8, 2012 9:49 am

Being a douche to your teammates =/= cancer

Just look at Michael Jordan
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Post#64 » by SpeedyG » Sun Jul 8, 2012 11:08 am

Rondo...you are a cancer to your team AND our league...
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Post#65 » by toneoz » Sun Jul 8, 2012 11:13 am

Rondo is a great player.
Hes a horrible person.

Honestly, I feel the Boston Celtics shouldn't cater to him and use him to help rebuild after KG contract is up.

When Doc Rivers goes, so should Rondo. Rondo won't respect another coach in Boston.

He needs to be dealt once the Celtics feel their Window has closed.

Rondo just isn't a "Boston Celtic" type guy.

IMO

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