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Post#451 » by cloudXXI » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:14 pm

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suckfish wrote:Wow. Espana flicking the switch. Rubio picking pockets and threading needles. Serbia are in turn over city.


They lost intentionally against Italy so this isn't suprising. Hopefully Serbia gets lucky and stays close. Anything can happen then.

Rudy Fernandez with 13 pts in the first quarter. I freaking hate that guy.

Nedovic is getting abused by Rodriguez. 17-43 Spain now.


Intentionally? Losing sent Spain to the most difficult road to the final. Also, without and day for resting....And you lose in the overtime, right?
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Post#452 » by JustOneFix » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:18 pm

Even in a blow out game, Ricky Rubio's still a notorius garbage.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#453 » by aroba » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:19 pm

Yeah, losing vs Italy to get a worst scenario is pretty stupid :lol:

No, Spain has won 6 games by a wide margin and lost 3 games that were just winning by +10 points in the 4th quarter.
it just happens again and again like at the olympics. They are beatable because of lack of focus during games they are winning.
Every lost game of Spain is been a comeback for the oher team. That should say something.

Anyway, when Spain is focused for most of the game....Game Over
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Post#454 » by aroba » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:20 pm

TheGreatSatan wrote:Even in a blow out game, Ricky Rubio's still a notorius garbage.


5pts 6 rebs 6 asts 4 stls in 20 minutes....that's a triple double with more minutes dude
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#455 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:22 pm

cloudXXI wrote:Intentionally? Losing sent Spain to the most difficult road to the final. Also, without and day for resting....And you lose in the overtime, right?


Yea intentionally. Did you watch the game with 5 minutes to go when Spain allowed an 11-0 run, made stupid fouls, missed FTs and didn't play any defense? Rodriguez moved his hand so Datome could shoot an easy shoot at the end of regular time. And in OT they weren't even trying to score aggressively when down 5.

LTU was a tougher matchup because of their experience and interior strength. Also, playing on Thurs is a disadvantage because you have less rest for the semifinal game against a better opponent. And had they won against LTU, assumingly Croatia would be just the same as France/Slovenia.

Spain beat Croatia pretty good but it was one game. And Croatia beat Slovenia, Greece & Italy, ALL teams that beat Spain.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#456 » by mixerball » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:30 pm

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mixerball wrote:i think serbia is a great matchup for spain

two great centers, bunch of good guards on both sides, but nobody can contain bjelica. Plus legendary serbian coach.

51% for serbia :)


This

Just busting your basketballs :wink:

someone needs to report spain to authorities

rape has been commited and we got video proof.

that was nasty. hard to watch. 1st qfinal ruined.
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Post#457 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:34 pm

mixerball wrote:someone needs to report spain to authorities

rape has been commited and we got video proof.

that was nasty. hard to watch. 1st qfinal ruined.


Yea, embarrassing loss. I wrote this before, Serbia relies on Krstic. If he plays well, they win. Otherwise they just don't have any weapons out there.

And Krstic scored 4 pts today :o , going 1/4 on FGs. Amazing how they shut him down in the 1st half. And then the Serbian coach basically rested his starters in the 2nd half.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#458 » by mixerball » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:42 pm

i was more surprised about disapearing of bjelica
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Post#459 » by cloudXXI » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:44 pm

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cloudXXI wrote:Intentionally? Losing sent Spain to the most difficult road to the final. Also, without and day for resting....And you lose in the overtime, right?


Yea intentionally. Did you watch the game with 5 minutes to go when Spain allowed an 11-0 run, made stupid fouls, missed FTs and didn't play any defense? Rodriguez moved his hand so Datome could shoot an easy shoot at the end of regular time. And in OT they weren't even trying to score aggressively when down 5.

LTU was a tougher matchup because of their experience and interior strength. Also, playing on Thurs is a disadvantage because you have less rest for the semifinal game against a better opponent. And had they won against LTU, assumingly Croatia would be just the same as France/Slovenia.

Spain beat Croatia pretty good but it was one game. And Croatia beat Slovenia, Greece & Italy, ALL teams that beat Spain.


Then we lost intentionally against Greece and Eslovenia too. Poor game in the final minutes too and comebacks of the opponents.

The fact is that Spain has lost the three closed games until now. And it´s not the first time we do poorly in groups. Four years ago we were losing against GB and out of the tournament. Like this year, we qualified 4th. That year France was the unfortunately team, today it has been Serbia.

It´s not fair for Serbia and Spains should play way better in groups, but it´s nothing about choosing team. If Spain plays well, no matter what team we play. If we play badly, anyone cat beat us.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#460 » by whocurrz » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:54 pm

Rodriguez needs to join the Rockets. Him and Harden sharing a backcourt together with those beards would be amazing
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#461 » by mixerball » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:55 pm

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cloudXXI wrote:Intentionally? Losing sent Spain to the most difficult road to the final. Also, without and day for resting....And you lose in the overtime, right?


Yea intentionally. Did you watch the game with 5 minutes to go when Spain allowed an 11-0 run, made stupid fouls, missed FTs and didn't play any defense? Rodriguez moved his hand so Datome could shoot an easy shoot at the end of regular time. And in OT they weren't even trying to score aggressively when down 5.

LTU was a tougher matchup because of their experience and interior strength. Also, playing on Thurs is a disadvantage because you have less rest for the semifinal game against a better opponent. And had they won against LTU, assumingly Croatia would be just the same as France/Slovenia.

Spain beat Croatia pretty good but it was one game. And Croatia beat Slovenia, Greece & Italy, ALL teams that beat Spain.


Then we lost intentionally against Greece and Eslovenia too. Poor game in the final minutes too and comebacks of the opponents.

The fact is that Spain has lost the three closed games until now. And it´s not the first time we do poorly in groups. Four years ago we were losing against GB and out of the tournament. Like this year, we qualified 4th. That year France was the unfortunately team, today it has been Serbia.

It´s not fair for Serbia and Spains should play way better in groups, but it´s nothing about choosing team. If Spain plays well, no matter what team we play. If we play badly, anyone cat beat us.

yeah, but you have a history of tactical maneuvers and to a spectators eye, there were some shady actions especially defensively. and that strange rodriguez moving of the hand at the last play of regulation.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#462 » by cloudXXI » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:58 pm

Yes, very suspicious.

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Post#463 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:59 pm

cloudXXI wrote:Then we lost intentionally against Greece and Eslovenia too. Poor game in the final minutes too and comebacks of the opponents.


No b.c. Spain had no incentive to lose against Greece or Slovenia, it actually hurt them. Losing to Italy allowed them to pick their first QT opponent and whether it wanted a longer rest break before or after the first QT game.

Spain did a similar thing to avoid the US once. And LTU let SRB come back to lose by x points to eliminate Spain in a previous Eurobasket. This stuff happens.

The fact is that Spain has lost the three closed games until now. And it´s not the first time we do poorly in groups. Four years ago we were losing against GB and out of the tournament. Like this year, we qualified 4th. That year France was the unfortunately team, today it has been Serbia.

It´s not fair for Serbia and Spains should play way better in groups, but it´s nothing about choosing team. If Spain plays well, no matter what team we play. If we play badly, anyone cat beat us.


Spain isn't as good as it has been historically because they don't have Pau. Bringing one legit C was a mistake, and one that prevented Greece from reaching the QT. Nevertheless, Spain remains the favorite in this tournament. But yes, if Spain's guards struggle shooting and the opponent is able to use their interior advantage then Spain can be beat.
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Post#464 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:05 pm

mixerball wrote:i was more surprised about disapearing of bjelica


Yea only took 4 shots, including 2 on one possession (a 3 and a close floater). He missed all of them.

Coach Ivkovic rested his starters in the 2nd half. Bjelica and Kristic each played only 14 minutes. I like this Serbia team and hope it qualifies for the WC. Their young core is only going to get better. One problem is who will replace Krstic down the road? All of their young talent are guards. And Teodosic will take one of their spots when he's healthy.

Hopefully Slovenia beats France and then Serbia will be able to dispose of France to finish in the top 6.
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Post#465 » by cloudXXI » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:08 pm

No b.c. Spain had no incentive to lose against Greece or Slovenia, it actually hurt them. - See more at: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1272507&start=450#sthash.XZ0Mmpy9.dpuf


And yesterday lost hurt too. Most difficult bracket and no resting for the most important game.

I know people love conspirancy theories but this is too much.

Marc Gasol played 37 minutes because he play better when he is tired, right?
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Post#466 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:20 pm

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No b.c. Spain had no incentive to lose against Greece or Slovenia, it actually hurt them. - See more at: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1272507&start=450#sthash.XZ0Mmpy9.dpuf


And yesterday lost hurt too. Most difficult bracket and no resting for the most important game.

I know people love conspirancy theories but this is too much.

Marc Gasol playing 37 minutes was because he play better when he is tired, right?


Again, I'll repeat myself: Losing to Italy allowed them to pick their first QT opponent and whether Spain wanted a longer rest break before or after the first QT game.

Gasol was playing **** defense in the 4th and OT. He allowed holes and didn't even contest layups. Yea he had 4 fouls and may have been tired but it was just ugly. And obviously late in the game you don't insert the scrub Rey b.c. that would be too blatant, and so with OT you'll play many minutes.

Playing Lithuania and Croatia is the same as Serbia and either of France/Slovenia. And Serbia was a better matchup today. And they obviously preferred the 2 day break after their first game.
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#467 » by aroba » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:53 pm

LoL at That
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Re: Official Eurobasket 2013 Thread 

Post#468 » by 1hit1team » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:54 pm

sergio is most underrated player.. he's nba type of player and nobody is taking him its insane!
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Post#469 » by JustOneFix » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:10 pm

They should switch to Spaldings. These Molten balls are utter crap, everything's going out with them.
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Post#470 » by JV4MVP » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:12 pm

1hit1team wrote:sergio is most underrated player.. he's nba type of player and nobody is taking him its insane!


His offense (driving to the basket and shooting 3s) reminds me of Steve Nash. He was beastly today. I can't believe the guy is listed as 6-3 and 168 lbs. I'm that height and am happy when I get to 195.

Unfortunate what happened to him with the Blazers. I feel like he's much better now but you never know how transferable Euro guards skillset will be. Navarro is one of the best players of this era, and is athletic enough for the NBA, but wasn't so good in Memphis.

Slovenia starting well against France. Hope they win on their homecourt.

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