2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK WINS 4-2)

Moderators: Harry Garris, ken6199, bwgood77, zimpy27, bisme37, Domejandro, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, infinite11285, Dirk

Who wins?

Knicks in 4
19
6%
Knicks in 5
71
21%
Knicks in 6
99
29%
Knicks in 7
39
11%
Sixers in 4
6
2%
Sixers in 5
11
3%
Sixers in 6
63
18%
Sixers in 7
37
11%
 
Total votes: 345

User avatar
Capn'O
Senior Mod - Knicks
Senior Mod - Knicks
Posts: 83,402
And1: 97,016
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5561 » by Capn'O » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:21 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Embiid might go down as the biggest underachiever in the history of the NBA.

What do you guys think?

At least guys like Ewing and others made it to the finals, and they never even won MVP either..


Let's keep Big Pat's name out of such conversations. He wasn't the transcendent talent once projected but he was a guaranteed ticket to the semis almost regardless of the cast around him and made a bunch of CFs and Finals. It was disappointing he never won but I would say in a lot of regards he overachieved.
BAF Clippers: Great Team. No Future.
PG: SGA | Coleworld
SG: Big Ragu | Merrill
SF: Kuminga | Dorture Chamber
PF: KAT | Saric
C: BroLo | Sharpe

Deep Bench - Mitchell | Houstan | Bailey | K Williams | Fernando


:beer:
User avatar
Im Coming Home
RealGM
Posts: 26,536
And1: 18,742
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: The Island
       

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5562 » by Im Coming Home » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:26 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Embiid might go down as the biggest underachiever in the history of the NBA.

What do you guys think?

At least guys like Ewing and others made it to the finals, and they never even won MVP either..


Let's keep Big Pat's name out of such conversations. He wasn't the transcendent talent once projected but he was a guaranteed ticket to the semis almost regardless of the cast around him and made a bunch of CFs and Finals. It was disappointing he never won but I would say in a lot of regards he overachieved.

I agree. I was just thinking of the greats who never won it all but at least could be counted on to make CFs and finals like you said. Not really saying Big Pat underachieved, just was thinking of the greats who never got their ring.

And I think Embiid has got to be at the top of underachievers or at least top 3, how do you win MVP but never make it to even a CF.
RGM Knicks BAF- Houston Rockets
Image

PG: Cunningham | Ja. Butler | Vincent
SG: Au Thompson | Griffin |
SF: B.Ingram | Prince| C.Williams
PF: JJJ | GG Jackson | Love
C: Drummond | Ware
cgf
RealGM
Posts: 30,714
And1: 11,418
Joined: Jul 01, 2008
Location: laser shield bitches

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5563 » by cgf » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:37 pm

I mean what's the list of MVPs that haven't won a ring? Embiid, Harden, Westbrook, Rose, Nash, Iverson, K.Malone, & Barkley? Just objectively speaking, Embiid's definitely seen the least playoff success of that group.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.

Brunson: So what are you paid to do?
Hart: Run around like an idiot during the game and f*** s*** up!
bronxknicksfan1
Analyst
Posts: 3,073
And1: 1,885
Joined: Feb 01, 2011
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5564 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:30 pm

cgf wrote:I mean what's the list of MVPs that haven't won a ring? Embiid, Harden, Westbrook, Rose, Nash, Iverson, K.Malone, & Barkley? Just objectively speaking, Embiid's definitely seen the least playoff success of that group.


A first round exit against a team he claimed his team was better than…in 5 games no less, would do some insane damage to his legacy. And would also invalidate that MVP he got even more last year, which I never believed he even deserved.
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 29,873
And1: 15,890
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5565 » by Context » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:44 pm

slick_watts wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:embiid just gets fatigued in fourth quarters

Everyone is tired. Its playoff basketball

Jokic be looking out of breath half the time but still always finds a way to get it done


i think jokic is fairly well conditioned. i don't think embiid is, or has been in awhile.

Now I’m curious what date did Embiid have the scope surgery done? And when did he get back in the gym and start running?
Image
Luka | Conley | Payton
Suggs | Brooks | Champangie
Barnes | JMac | Naji
AD | O'Neal |
Lively | Ayton | Kornet
The KnicksFix
Starter
Posts: 2,359
And1: 1,977
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
       

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5566 » by The KnicksFix » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:46 pm

I have to say. It’s incredible to watch a baby like embiid lose. He tries to injure the entire squad and he still loses. Lmao what a bum. Dood can’t even win on his home floor against a guy who is 14 inches shorter, and instead tries to injure him too. This is poetic justice. What a loser
Decipher
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,912
And1: 1,839
Joined: May 13, 2022
 

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5567 » by Decipher » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:49 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
Decipher wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Year after year this clown falters in the playoffs.

Year after year Embiid fans come out in October talking about how this is the best player in the NBA and greatest offensive force since Jordan.

It’s crazy, honestly.


He’s injured and being run into the ground because his team is horrific when he sits so hardly surprising that he’s running out of gas


if he's injured every season (not an exaggeration, it's literally every season), maybe we should start factoring that into his ranking? Maybe sixers' fans should stop proclaiming him as the best player in the NBA whenever he has a good stretch in the regular season?

For players of this caliber (top 5-10), playoffs matter a lot more than regular season numbers. Yes it's cool when he scores 70 points on Charlotte on a Tuesday in January but it's not the determining factor for "best player in the league".


Do whatever you want

I’m not a Sixers fan so it doesn’t bother me either way
User avatar
Im Coming Home
RealGM
Posts: 26,536
And1: 18,742
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: The Island
       

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5568 » by Im Coming Home » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:10 pm

Lmao this man is pathetic. He's now blamed gravity itself.

Read on Twitter
RGM Knicks BAF- Houston Rockets
Image

PG: Cunningham | Ja. Butler | Vincent
SG: Au Thompson | Griffin |
SF: B.Ingram | Prince| C.Williams
PF: JJJ | GG Jackson | Love
C: Drummond | Ware
User avatar
KnixtapeH20
RealGM
Posts: 10,765
And1: 16,531
Joined: Feb 08, 2021
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5569 » by KnixtapeH20 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:36 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Lmao this man is pathetic. He's now blamed gravity itself.

Read on Twitter

LOL...... this guy is a mental midget wow... stay TF away anywhere from this franchise

cry baby bitch
User avatar
Capn'O
Senior Mod - Knicks
Senior Mod - Knicks
Posts: 83,402
And1: 97,016
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5570 » by Capn'O » Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:04 pm

I made fun of the "bad bounces" part on our forum but the whole thing is a gem. It's almost as if offensive rebounding is part of our strategy??? After 4 games??? You're just getting this you big dummy???
BAF Clippers: Great Team. No Future.
PG: SGA | Coleworld
SG: Big Ragu | Merrill
SF: Kuminga | Dorture Chamber
PF: KAT | Saric
C: BroLo | Sharpe

Deep Bench - Mitchell | Houstan | Bailey | K Williams | Fernando


:beer:
bronxknicksfan1
Analyst
Posts: 3,073
And1: 1,885
Joined: Feb 01, 2011
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5571 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Lmao this man is pathetic. He's now blamed gravity itself.

Read on Twitter


Please keep him away from this franchise.
Decipher
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,912
And1: 1,839
Joined: May 13, 2022
 

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5572 » by Decipher » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:31 am

Let’s be real

Knicks fans would hold a parade if the team managed to acquire Embiid
User avatar
DaGawd
RealGM
Posts: 36,009
And1: 47,407
Joined: Mar 11, 2014
Location: Queens, NY
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5573 » by DaGawd » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:21 am

Decipher wrote:Let’s be real

Knicks fans would hold a parade if the team managed to acquire Embiid

it’ll probably be pretty split between the fan base
BaF
Washington Wizards
User avatar
Im Coming Home
RealGM
Posts: 26,536
And1: 18,742
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: The Island
       

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5574 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:25 am

Decipher wrote:Let’s be real

Knicks fans would hold a parade if the team managed to acquire Embiid

Nope.

Dude will break down within 2 years and barely plays 60 games a year to begin with

That's even before you factor in how he's acted in this series and how he is the literal antithesis of what the Knicks have built here and what their team stands for.

Hard pass.
RGM Knicks BAF- Houston Rockets
Image

PG: Cunningham | Ja. Butler | Vincent
SG: Au Thompson | Griffin |
SF: B.Ingram | Prince| C.Williams
PF: JJJ | GG Jackson | Love
C: Drummond | Ware
drekwins
Head Coach
Posts: 7,236
And1: 4,597
Joined: Jun 05, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5575 » by drekwins » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:29 am

bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Lmao this man is pathetic. He's now blamed gravity itself.

Read on Twitter


Please keep him away from this franchise.


Thibs would kill him lol
User avatar
DaGawd
RealGM
Posts: 36,009
And1: 47,407
Joined: Mar 11, 2014
Location: Queens, NY
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5576 » by DaGawd » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:31 am

drekwins wrote:
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Lmao this man is pathetic. He's now blamed gravity itself.

Read on Twitter


Please keep him away from this franchise.


Thibs would kill him lol

isn’t embiid one of the players who voted thibs the coach he’d least want to play for too? it makes sense.. he’s lazy
BaF
Washington Wizards
drekwins
Head Coach
Posts: 7,236
And1: 4,597
Joined: Jun 05, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5577 » by drekwins » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:33 am

DaGawd wrote:
Oscirus wrote:What I dont get about all this is don't tickets go on sale before teams even know who their opponents are? How the hell were knicks fans even able to buy tickets like that when the tickets are usually sold out before the opponent is even known

resale


Yep. I'm already looking at tickets in Indy.
User avatar
DaGawd
RealGM
Posts: 36,009
And1: 47,407
Joined: Mar 11, 2014
Location: Queens, NY
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5578 » by DaGawd » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:33 am

drekwins wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Oscirus wrote:What I dont get about all this is don't tickets go on sale before teams even know who their opponents are? How the hell were knicks fans even able to buy tickets like that when the tickets are usually sold out before the opponent is even known

resale


Yep. I'm already looking at tickets in Indy.

you live out there or near by?
BaF
Washington Wizards
drekwins
Head Coach
Posts: 7,236
And1: 4,597
Joined: Jun 05, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5579 » by drekwins » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:34 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Embiid might go down as the biggest underachiever in the history of the NBA.

What do you guys think?

At least guys like Ewing and others made it to the finals, and they never even won MVP either..


Hard to say, as it depends on what your criteria is for underachiever. Relative to potential? perceived status? accolades?
I think it's safe to say he is probably the most underachiever ever in playoffs relative to how good he is in Regular Season. Dude would probably have 3 MVP if not for historically great RS performances from Jokic let's not forget that, it's not like his competiton in RS was poor, he really played at a very high level in RS. But the dropoff is so high it's not even funny.


People say Shaq underachieved for only winning the number of rings he did. To be considered great, you are expected to win BIG.
drekwins
Head Coach
Posts: 7,236
And1: 4,597
Joined: Jun 05, 2008
     

Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK leads 3-1) 

Post#5580 » by drekwins » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:35 am

DaGawd wrote:
drekwins wrote:
DaGawd wrote:resale


Yep. I'm already looking at tickets in Indy.

you live out there or near by?


Recently moved from Brooklyn to Boston for work. Will probably take a day or two of PTO. It's a short flight.

Return to The General Board