Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd?

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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#61 » by Whole Truth » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:52 pm

TheNewEra wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:Sept 3rd or 4th is when Iggy's trade restriction is lifted to combine him with players in trade. No other reason to wait this long or to end of weak just to buy him out.

Memphis have to cut 2 roster spots to meet regulation but Clippers are over the cap, where they cannot trade for Iggy 1-1.

What I think is a possibility is Memphis have a consolidation trade with a non playoff team for a bad contract, picks & that team who is slightly over the tax will buyout Iggy who will then walk to Clippers for the vet min.

Memphis wanted a pick for Iggy & have to buyout roughly 12-30m best to worse case to trim roster to regulation. A 3-1 deal for a bad contract that nets them a couple picks for players they had to otherwise buyout at 30m makes sense.

i.e. (Iggy, Hill, Plumlee) for (Paul + 2-3 FRP's)

With this deal, Memphis trim their roster to regulation without having to buyout anyone but can if they work a deal with Paul. They net a couple picks for otherwise large buyout options.


Maybe Minny with Dieng or Dallas with Hardaway Jr


Maybe.

However concerning Hardaway, if Dallas could trade for Iggy, they expressed interest in him & probably wouldn't buy him out. I also don't think they have the potential pick compensation to make it worth it for Memphis.

Something else to consider besides Memphis having 18 active players is they have 9 forwards clogging their SF/PF rotation. If they trade Iggy + & buyout Hill, they would still have Anderson, Bruno, Josh Jackson, Crowder sharing mins at SF.
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Re: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#62 » by SK21209 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:00 pm

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As a Raptors fan I'm totally okay with this idea. Gasol for Zubac/Robinson/Harkless would be quite a rebuilding haul.


Pass. That's whole lot of 'meh' loading up your cap space. Raptors would be better off using the expiring contract or capspace to take on bad deals & get picks because Ujiri knows how to draft & develop.


Clippers wouldn’t even want to touch this kills depth for a expiring and wastes a prospect. Just sign Noah if they need a spare big for nothing


I tend to agree but if Zubac struggles to start the seasons (which I don't think he will), I could see them pulling the trigger. Particularly if they manage to sign Iggy after a buyout. I'm not very high on Robinson and dropping Gasol into the starting unit would really help with ball movement.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#63 » by BVB24 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:13 pm

Iggy ain’t what he used to be. Will be 36 before the ASB. Still a solid role player off the bench I guess, but he’s not going to be the difference in the Clips winning a ring next year.
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Post#64 » by Wammy Giveaway » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:14 pm

Adding Iguodala will give the Clippers a total of eight - EIGHT - forwards. Add two guards and a center who can play forward, they'll have ELEVEN. Just for comparison, the 2017-18 Golden State Warriors had four forwards, plus two guards and a center who could play forward; three of them were superstars. Why stack up on forwards, versatility. But here's the real answer: Lob City screwed up.

During the Paul-Griffin-Jordan era, their greatest weakness was a small forward. Either the player was too old (Paul Pierce), too inconsistent (Jeff Green), or too limited (Wesley Johnson). To solve this, Doc Rivers had to masquerade: point guards, shooting guards and power forwards pretended to be a small forward. Remember when Chris Paul guarded Kevin Durant in the 2014 NBA Playoffs - that's pretending to be a small forward. The hope was for Blake Griffin to become a dual forward, but his prowess came from highlight reel dunks and plays in the paint, he was still a true power forward. Luc Mbah A Moute was a natural power forward, and ended up taking over the 3 spot after they traded Matt Barnes. It was pretty clear the only way to ever get a true small forward was to trade for one, but the cost would have been high: Clippers would have been required to give up Chris Paul or Blake Griffin, and at the time Clippers feared returning to the dark days if either of them were exchanged for a good small forward. They had that chance twice: trading for Carmelo Anthony after Griffin got ejected vs. Warriors in 2013 XMas game, and after he punched his best friend Matias Testi that cost him nearly the whole season. Instead, Clippers were concerned of their image and status in the NBA hemisphere.

To ensure these mistakes and fears never happen again, the front office has made it their mission to stock up on many forwards as possible, particularly ones who can assume point guard. We're seeing that it's much easier to pretend to be a point than it is slotting in as a small forward, whereas point guards can either be replaced or assumed by other positions, small forwards, especially two-way types, are rare and one in a million. A benefit to multiple forwards is the ability to assume the center role. We saw that with Draymond Green in small ball lineups for Dubs. The Clippers best "big" is a small forward sized Montrezl Harrell who comes off the bench, making Ivica Zubac look more like a decoy with each passing day. Having the injury history of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George added a sense of urgency in that, should either or both of these superstars go down and out for an extended stretch, you're back to being The Platters and pretending that the small forward spot is doing well.

Clap your hands for Jerry West in prepping the Clippers to be more forward oriented.

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This second half of the post is dedicated to deciphering Chris Wylde's rumor of the Clippers acquiring Andre Iguodala. While doing my due diligence at Trade NBA, the REAL Trade Machine, a few notes stand out:

1. Iguodala by his lonesome: He cannot be put in a trade package until September 4. Wylde gave us a 3rd, like Lupin.

2. Harkless is key: His $11 million contract can be used to absorb Iggy's, who has $17 million, but like him, he also cannot be moved in packages, until September 5. Again, they're seeking a 3rd date.

3. The Return Of Iso-Joe: Mark Spears of Yahoo! Sports reports that Joe Johnson is attempting an NBA comeback, with the Clippers as one of his tryout teams. One source says Clippers have a full roster, but a few others claim there's one spot left. For Johnson to join, they'll have to move a player. Jerome Robinson looks like the odd man out, and they could place Mfiondu Kabengele on the block as a sweetener. The moving of Robinson and Kabengele could open up a few spots for Johnson to claim, possibly even Joakim Noah, or based on their newfound Spursian culture, a veteran role player who can play center without an All-Star appearance.

With all these implications and the given date of September 3, this most likely makes Iguodala a buyout candidate.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#65 » by nomansland » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:33 pm

youngthegiant wrote:Iguodala pretty overrated at this point. He won't be the reason the Clippers win/compete for a championship.


Yeah but he knows all about how Golden State coaches.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#66 » by OkcSinceSGA » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:58 pm

Iggy doesn't bring it consistently anymore in the regular season and is regularly hurt, but he has a knack for timely 3s that are backbreaking and big stops in the playoffs. I wouldn't expect him to play all that much during regular season TBH.

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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#67 » by Jody Smokz » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:38 pm

I strongly disagree with this. If he's healthy in the playoffs he'll be a problem with Kawhi/PG/Bev vs small ball lineups.

The Lakers absolutely need Iguodola as well to help with perimeter defense. If the Clippers manage to get Iggy and keep him healthy they are pretty much the best team imo.

youngthegiant wrote:Iguodala pretty overrated at this point. He won't be the reason the Clippers win/compete for a championship.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#68 » by Spens1 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:13 pm

Sounds like a trade cause otherwise their would be a ton of other teams vying for him (all the contenders would want him if for nothing else than being a big time leader).
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#69 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:59 pm

I would like to get iggy ! God like fighting with your little brother (LAC) lol
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#70 » by Klayforspicy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:04 am

BVB24 wrote:Iggy ain’t what he used to be. Will be 36 before the ASB. Still a solid role player off the bench I guess, but he’s not going to be the difference in the Clips winning a ring next year.

He would make a huge difference next to PG, Bev and Kawhi. Basically zero defensive lapses on the perimeter if theyre communicating
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Re: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#71 » by Johnny Bball » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:12 am

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Pass. That's whole lot of 'meh' loading up your cap space. Raptors would be better off using the expiring contract or capspace to take on bad deals & get picks because Ujiri knows how to draft & develop.


Clippers wouldn’t even want to touch this kills depth for a expiring and wastes a prospect. Just sign Noah if they need a spare big for nothing


I tend to agree but if Zubac struggles to start the seasons (which I don't think he will), I could see them pulling the trigger. Particularly if they manage to sign Iggy after a buyout. I'm not very high on Robinson and dropping Gasol into the starting unit would really help with ball movement.


Here's what I see. The Clippers can't win it all without a change at the C position. It's a gaping hole against too many teams, the biggest of which is Denver. Harrell helps them 100% against half the league minimum, but there's a few teams that they won't be able to stop at the top end of the league.

Gasol would in fact close that hole just as he did for Toronto. So would a few other guys. But Iggy really doesn't fix that at all and then it gets tougher to fill that spot. That's why I don't get this Iggy idea at all.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#72 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:14 am

He'll be an incredible pick up for their depth if they keep his minutes lower during the regular season n lean more on Harkless. He'd also be the perfect role model for Mo.

I flip flop between Lakers/Clippers to win it all. I think LeBron has ONE more special season in him. That I'm leaning towards this being final push then Kawhi takes the next onw or two. But with the Clippers crazy depth, I'm not even sure LeBron will be able to overcome the Clippers waves of defense. Gonna be awesome to see!
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#73 » by LoveTheNBA23 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:24 am

PhilBlackson wrote:He'll be an incredible pick up for their depth if they keep his minutes lower during the regular season n lean more on Harkless. He'd also be the perfect role model for Mo.

I flip flop between Lakers/Clippers to win it all. I think LeBron has ONE more special season in him. That I'm leaning towards this being final push then Kawhi takes the next onw or two. But with the Clippers crazy depth, I'm not even sure LeBron will be able to overcome the Clippers waves of defense. Gonna be awesome to see!


If it goes through next week it will be a trade for Harkless and filler. Harkless is eligible to be traded next week (60days) after they traded for him. Iggy isn’t getting bought out.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#74 » by Crizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:28 am

The only way grizz buy him out involves iggy taking a huge cut which I don't see happening. A trades a coming
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#75 » by Prospect Dong » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:28 am

Crizzle wrote:The only way grizz buy him out involves iggy taking a huge cut which I don't see happening. A trades a coming


Yeah, I'd be pretty disappointed as a Griz fan if they just buy him out, especially if it happens before the trade deadline. Robinson+Harkless would be fine - Robinson's probably a bust, but so is the guy we'd draft with a protected first. He's worth a flier and enough value for Iggy, IMO.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#76 » by Dacost » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:24 am

Trading Iggy will finish one the best off-season I've ever seen from a rebuilding team.

Grizz got legit value in every single move this off-season.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#77 » by arh1109 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:08 pm

Iggy is just about ready to retire. I'm not sure why he's leaving the Warriors.
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Re: Rumor: Andre Iguodala to the Clippers on Sept 3rd? 

Post#78 » by Crizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:27 pm

arh1109 wrote:Iggy is just about ready to retire. I'm not sure why he's leaving the Warriors.


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Post#79 » by arh1109 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:48 pm

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arh1109 wrote:Iggy is just about ready to retire. I'm not sure why he's leaving the Warriors.


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Post#80 » by Crizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:53 pm

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arh1109 wrote:Iggy is just about ready to retire. I'm not sure why he's leaving the Warriors.


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