The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II

JoeyH · Post #631 » by **JoeyH** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:20 am

Moose10Fan wrote:Or he could stay fairly thin, not everyone can bulk up, see Tayshaun Prince.

That's true, look at Durant too. But unlike them, AD's shoulder's are pretty broad, and that's usually a good sign for filling out.

nin10doe · Post #632 » by **nin10doe** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:20 am

Davis is a 19 year old kid averaging 15/8/2 blks with a 21+ PER, 10 starts into his career. He's fine.

He's dealt with a concussion, a foot injury, and not having the best player on his team around to help get him touches. Its arguable that the Hornets have had ONE other starting caliber player on the entire roster this season, Ryan Anderson. Vaquez has played well in stretches but clearly isn't ideal.

IF Gordon ever gets back, Davis' scoring numbers will definitely spike. Right now nobody on the Hornets roster can create his own shot or drive and finish at the basket. A guy like Gordon who can penetrate on his own and dish to Davis(or kick out to Anderson) will be a huge help to him. At the moment the Hornets offense consists of an endless string of pick and rolls every possession, with someone usually chucking up a bad shot at the end of the shot clock which is why they're one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

By the end of the season he'll end up being around 18/10/ 2 blks.

orangeparka · Post #633 » by **orangeparka** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:33 am

I thought AD would be a better defender and shotblocker, but no doubt the potential is there.

What really surprised me is how polished he is on offense. I really thought he'd struggle to score the first few years but hasn't had much problems so far.

He's gonna be a great, great two-way player if he can continue to improve.

Post #634 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:31 am

How many blocks did people expect Davis to get per game as a rookie, especially after missing games?

He's at 2.1 per 36 minutes, and I'd count on that going up as long as he stays healthy. Patrick Ewing, Tim Duncan, Josh Smith, and Marcus Camby were all in the 2.0 to 2.5 range as rookies(per 36).

Dwight Howard didn't get into the 2+ block per 36 range until his 4th year in the league, and it was exactly 2.1

I want to toot my horn though, my top 3 prospects in this draft were Davis, Drummond, than Lillard. Not sure I'd still have taken Drummond over Lillard like I would have on draft day, but the thought is very intriguing.

Chocobanana · Post #635 » by **Chocobanana** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:39 am

His shot blocking is good. Just his defense in general wasn't very good when I watched; he covered a lot of ground to block shots but usually he was too slow to rotate or wasn't in good position to contest shots. Like others have said though, these are rookie things that will fix themselves as he gets more experience.

Shem · Post #636 » by **Shem** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:30 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMspCfzOD2E[/youtube]

fart · Post #637 » by **fart** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:43 pm

FFS Shem, we get it, Lillard is great so you can stop posting mixtapes every single day :lol:

Shem · Post #638 » by **Shem** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:49 pm

fart wrote:FFS Shem, we get it, Lillard is great so you can stop posting mixtapes every single day

Unless someone has a gun to your head and is making you hit the play button, I don't see the point of this statement.

Shem · Post #639 » by **Shem** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:52 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUvvpR2qtE0[/youtube]

Troubadour · Post #640 » by **Troubadour** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Terrence Ross has been really great on this winning streak. I'm really liking this pick for the Raptors.

hoopjammer · Post #641 » by **hoopjammer** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:00 pm

Troubadour wrote:Terrence Ross has been really great on this winning streak. I'm really liking this pick for the Raptors.

Agreed. Its a shame he doesnt get more burn but he needs to learn from his rookie mistakes. He seems to be exactly what he was advertised as, a smooth jump shooter and an active defender. Hes still adjusting to the speed and strength of NBA players but once he becomes more consistent and confident I think he can be a very good player in this league.

Kabookalu · Post #642 » by **Kabookalu** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:47 pm

I don't think he'll ever get his due just because he was taken over Drummond, but yeah Ross has been great. Lights out shooter and his defense is fantastic. I don't think we've ever had a perimeter player who was excellent both on and off the ball.

Dupp · Post #643 » by **Dupp** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:39 pm

Choker wrote:I don't think he'll ever get his due just because he was taken over Drummond, but yeah Ross has been great. Lights out shooter and his defense is fantastic. I don't think we've ever had a perimeter player who was excellent both on and off the ball.

I thought Ross wasn't doing great until recently? At least that's the impression i got from peoples posts, or has he been solid all season?

Kabookalu · Post #644 » by **Kabookalu** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:44 pm

Dutuctive Depp wrote:
Choker wrote:I don't think he'll ever get his due just because he was taken over Drummond, but yeah Ross has been great. Lights out shooter and his defense is fantastic. I don't think we've ever had a perimeter player who was excellent both on and off the ball.

I thought Ross wasn't doing great until recently? At least that's the impression i got from peoples posts, or has he been solid all season?

Yeah recently. I don't know what it was but earlier in the season if he threw a rock at the ground he would have missed. Now he looks confident out there and hitting from all over the floor.

LLJ · Post #645 » by **LLJ** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:34 pm

Choker wrote:
Dutuctive Depp wrote:
Choker wrote:I don't think he'll ever get his due just because he was taken over Drummond, but yeah Ross has been great. Lights out shooter and his defense is fantastic. I don't think we've ever had a perimeter player who was excellent both on and off the ball.

I thought Ross wasn't doing great until recently? At least that's the impression i got from peoples posts, or has he been solid all season?

Yeah recently. I don't know what it was but earlier in the season if he threw a rock at the ground he would have missed. Now he looks confident out there and hitting from all over the floor.

I think he started playing better after the Houston game on the road trip a few weeks back. Even though the Raps lost that one badly, that gave him the confidence that he could be a productive rotation player.

Early in the season he didn't get a lot of PT because all the attention was focused on Jonas, and Casey didn't trust him yet.

hoopjammer · Post #646 » by **hoopjammer** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:37 am

Dutuctive Depp wrote:I thought Ross wasn't doing great until recently? At least that's the impression i got from peoples posts, or has he been solid all season?

I think it was merely an adjustment period. There's no question he struggled early on. The Raptors have been on a bit of a run lately and he's becoming a more important part of the rotation. Unfortunately, Pietrus, and inevitably Fields, stand in his way.

Hero · Post #647 » by **Hero** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:47 am

Dutuctive Depp wrote:
Choker wrote:I don't think he'll ever get his due just because he was taken over Drummond, but yeah Ross has been great. Lights out shooter and his defense is fantastic. I don't think we've ever had a perimeter player who was excellent both on and off the ball.

I thought Ross wasn't doing great until recently? At least that's the impression i got from peoples posts, or has he been solid all season?

He's had a few good games but many more duds. As for him being a good shooter. Do not see that right now as he misses way more open shots than he makes.

He does play well enough in some games to deserve more minutes but won't get it as we are packed at the wings and neither him or Derozan can handle the ball.

Post #648 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:39 am

LMAO, I hope our fans don't become the fans that has their big man prospect that grows 2 inches every summer. Anthony Randolph has to be at least 7'5 by now right?

Bskey · Post #649 » by **Bskey** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:52 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:I want to toot my horn though, my top 3 prospects in this draft were Davis, Drummond, than Lillard. Not sure I'd still have taken Drummond over Lillard like I would have on draft day, but the thought is very intriguing.

Same three as me, though I'm still probably higher on Drummond than most. I think he has better than AD potential even if that's not a popular opinion. I'm only speaking max potential though, not the likely hood of it happening. Potential best center though imo. (in his playing days, not speaking all time.)

I learned about Lillard a bit late, but the more I saw of him the more I was hoping we drafted him. My dream draft was:

Drummond #6
Lillard #11

It didn't work out that way and in hindsight I'm glad we got Lillard and doubt he would have lasted till 11, he's really just what this team needed. An instant satisfaction draft pick. Not bummed about Leonard either though, he's years away but is a great block to chip away at.

JoeyH · Post #650 » by **JoeyH** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:29 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:LMAO, I hope our fans don't become the fans that has their big man prospect that grows 2 inches every summer. Anthony Randolph has to be at least 7'5 by now right?

I was just repeating what Dell Demps said, and he's not a fan. Growing taller probably won't make much of a difference for him anyway, gaining more mass is the important thing.