Game Thread 1/30/08 Wednesday

HarlemHeat37 · Post #81 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:55 am

ChocolateThundr wrote:Tonight LeBron looked like Kobe 2005-2006

no, he actually won..

ChocolateThundr · Post #82 » by **ChocolateThundr** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:55 am

Imo the only thing stopping LeBron from getting MVP right now is Cav's record

Post #83 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:56 am

ChocolateThundr wrote:Imo the only thing stopping LeBron from getting MVP right now is Cav's record

And the Cavs are about 25-14 with LeBron.

ChocolateThundr · Post #84 » by **ChocolateThundr** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:59 am

The funny thing I realize is LeBron is playing like Kobe in the past seasons and Kobe is playing like LeBron in past seasons

NetsForce · Post #85 » by **NetsForce** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:59 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Haha. Who do you have #1? Tom Brady?

1. Chris Paul
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Lebron James
5. Steve Nash

Lebron is moving up and could catch Kobe soon, but as of right now it's just too hard to ignore what Paul and Bryant have done out West.

prekazi · Post #86 » by **prekazi** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:01 am

ChocolateThundr wrote:The funny thing I realize is LeBron is playing like Kobe in the past seasons and Kobe is playing like LeBron in past seasons

True for last couple of games.

ChocolateThundr · Post #87 » by **ChocolateThundr** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:02 am

prekazi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

True for last couple of games.

True for this whole season so far. Their stats may not reflect this but the way they are playing imo does

Post #88 » by **INKtastic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:05 am

NetsForce wrote:Good game by Lebron, I think I'm going to move him to #4 in my MVP rankings.

#4?

At this point he should be a unanimous #1.

League leading scorer by a 2 point margin

League leader in PER by a 2.5 point margin

Scores the most 4th quarter points in the league by about a 3 point margin

Has led the cavs to a league high 18 fourth quarter comebacks. No other team has more than 14.

The best clutch player in the league

The best player in the league

Just how deep into the season are people going to consider 5 1/2 missed games, all losses, where the team scored 20 ppg below what they score when he plays as a negative in the case for MVP?

C.Boshly · Post #89 » by **C.Boshly** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:09 am

lj4mvp wrote:
NetsForce wrote:Good game by Lebron, I think I'm going to move him to #4 in my MVP rankings.

#4?

At this point he should be a unanimous #1.

League leading scorer by a 2 point margin

League leader in PER by a 2.5 point margin

Scores the most 4th quarter points in the league by about a 3 point margin

Has led the cavs to a league high 18 fourth quarter comebacks. No other team has more than 14.

The best clutch player in the league

The best player in the league

Just how deep into the season are people going to consider 5 1/2 missed games, all losses, where the team scored 20 ppg below what they score when he plays as a negative in the case for MVP?

There is a difference between league MVP and the best player in the league.

Welcome to the NBA.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #90 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:09 am

unanimous is a huge stretch..best player in the NBA is more accurate..I don't see how he can be ahead of Chris Paul at this point..a guy that is leading a team that didn't make the playoffs last year, but are #2 in the West with the loss tonight..

Post #91 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:13 am

al thornton all over josh smith

Windmill · Post #92 » by **Windmill** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:15 am

Love Thornton's game. He's been owning Josh Smith this whole game, not just that facial. He's just coming along real nice.

ChocolateThundr · Post #93 » by **ChocolateThundr** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:15 am

lj4mvp wrote:
NetsForce wrote:Good game by Lebron, I think I'm going to move him to #4 in my MVP rankings.

#4?

At this point he should be a unanimous #1.

League leading scorer by a 2 point margin

League leader in PER by a 2.5 point margin

Scores the most 4th quarter points in the league by about a 3 point margin

Has led the cavs to a league high 18 fourth quarter comebacks. No other team has more than 14.

The best clutch player in the league

The best player in the league

Just how deep into the season are people going to consider 5 1/2 missed games, all losses, where the team scored 20 ppg below what they score when he plays as a negative in the case for MVP?

Well, I dont want to turn this into another Kobe vs LeBron debate but as Im a laker fan and I watch a lot of Laker games obviously I'll use it as an example. Im going to use when we had everybody healthy (Bynum, Ariza) etc. More often than not during taht span of games, i dont know the exact number but many times Kobe was chilling his knees the entire 4th quarter, because he and thererfore his team played so well. What LeBron is doing now is impressive. But would you have LeBron play effective for the first three quarters and get a big lead so he rests most if not all of 4th quarter.
Or would you want the games close so LeBron can get that 15 or so 4th quarter points and hit a game winner.

I personally would want the former case, because you are taking care of business. Even though the former case obviously screws your 4th quarter stats since you most likely wont play that much, that to me is more impressive and therefore MVP worthy than the latter case. Dont get me wrong, what LeBron is doing now is amazing.

Post #94 » by **INKtastic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:18 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:unanimous is a huge stretch..best player in the NBA is more accurate..I don't see how he can be ahead of Chris Paul at this point..a guy that is leading a team that didn't make the playoffs last year, but are #2 in the West with the loss tonight..

18 4th quarter comeback wins. Against teams like the Celtics, Spurs (game winning shot), Lakers (twice), Blazers (down 11 on the road with 4:20 left, game winning shot), Raptors (down 23 on the road in the 4th).

NetsForce · Post #95 » by **NetsForce** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:19 am

I can't put Lebron over Paul or Garnett at this point, like I said I have Kobe above him right now but not by much, and if anyone placed Lebron over Kobe at this point I could live with that... But putting LBJ over Paul and Garnett? Come on.

The Hornets are one of the best teams in the WEST right now despite having one of if not the worst benches in the league. As for Garnett, while I've been critical of him in the past and am always sure to never overcredit him for the Celtics' success this season Garnett IS THE REASON for their amazing defensive turnaround.

Post #96 » by **INKtastic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:21 am

ChocolateThundr wrote: Im going to use when we had everybody healthy (Bynum, Ariza) etc.

The cavs haven't had everyone healthy a single game all season. The 2nd half of last game and the whole game tonight they were without 2 of LeBron's top 5 teammates on the team.

Windmill · Post #97 » by **Windmill** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:21 am

Thornton is on fiya!

Rampage · Post #98 » by **Rampage** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:32 am

LeBron took 3 steps.

/not hating

Post #99 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:32 am

Brad Miller is quietly having a good season. 14, 9 and 4 and tonight with 22/20 and 5. Not to mention he's blocking a shot a game.

Ballings7 · Post #100 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:33 am

Excellent game by Brad Miller - 22 pts, 21 rebs (career high), 5 ast, 3 blk

Just tops off how this guy has revived his game from the last 1 or 2 seasons.

Ron Artest was also especially good