Lebron Thread [Part 3]

[Cake55]

So, next season, the Heat plays in Cleveland; Full house with every single person booing for 48 minutes ?
One can only hope..

[TAI8]

I don't know why people are so emotional about this.

As a Sun fan I'm actually disgusted by the complete lack of respect to his former team.

The fans are the most important in any sport. This was a huge slap in the face to true fans in Cleveland.

Lebron is a douche.

I agree. His fans in Cleveland don't deserve this but his GM/management do. They had all the time in the world to put a good team around him, but the best they could come up with was Mo Williams. Epic fail. His team disrespected him by not putting out the best possible product out there as quickly as possible. LeBron doesn't owe management anything. It's the other way around.

[NO-KG-AI]

I think Cleveland did what they could, but they still failed.

It's like if LeBron put out his best effort, but tore up his knee and ruined his career, Cleveland sure wouldn't be giving him a 6 year max. I look at it the same, he appreciates what they did, but doesn't feel like Cleveland can attract the guys to win a title.

I think it's clear he was trying to stay, he was trying to get Bosh to join him there for a reason..

[Bay_Areas_Finest]

lol @ Lebron realizing that he's nothing but a complimentary role player. Have fun riding Dwayne's nuts as you attempt to finally do something in the finals.

You're a joke, "King" James.

[pancakes3]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat???

he's probably thinking... "i want to pop champagne on yachts. i want to play with my friends. i want to win as many rings as possible".

seriously though, how many FRIENDS does lebron really have? a few guys he met in HS and... ??? wade and bosh are the closest thing lebron has to "friends" and can you really blame him for wanting to team up with them? plus they're hypertalented to boot and are odds-on favorites to win it all? it was really a no-brainer as long as the salaries worked out.

[KayDee35]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat???

Your math is wrong.

Seriously though, there is no guarantee he wins with the Cavs or Knicks. And people forget about how you won your rings, they just remember whether you have them or not.

Kobe gets called the best player in the game primarily because of his rings. It hardly ever gets brought up that Hakeem won a ring with a weak squad or that LeBron took a team of bums to the NBA finals.

[crazy_me_87]

Winning a title 'your right as a player. its the right of the franchise, and its the responsibility of the player to bring it.

MJ didn't go team up with Ewing. Kobe didn't go team up with Duncan. Russell didn't go team up with Chamberlain. When it came time they all chose loyalty over glory.

THERE, is everyone happy now.

oh dude i hope you just didn't thought this through like a lot of people here

lets think this through shall we?

MJ
had if a recall correctly Pippin(remember one of the best 50 players,hall of famer) and proven roleplayers that led him to stay

Kobe
played for an proven organisation that has put championchip caliber teams together all 6 to 10 years he was young enough to join another run, and by the way as he was asking to be traded many experts believed kobe would never wear a LA jersey again after that the front office worked their legs of to get help and got gasol(at least 2nd best PF right now... when you account international succsess hes a future Hall of Famer)

Russell
c'mon he was on a team that won 11 rings why he should have left wen he wasn't on a really bad team at least once???


ok now lets do the same for

Lebron
has mo williams(1 time all star dissapears in the playoffs, already 28 years old), Antwan jamison(34 years old...has won nothing yet ) , ilgauskas(35 years old only a roleplayer now) Delonte west(mental unstable but good roleplayer ) JJ Hickson(young energetic PF developing but lets be serious will at best!! be a borderline all star) the rest is mostly made up of aging roleplayers that are serveable but still many well over 30



one should not compare this situations all exept kobe had at least one other all star at their current teams

and the gasol trade was so much luck for the lakers it is hardly possible the cavs would have been able to land a player of gasol caliber in the next 3 years


i agree with most of you that lebron could and maybe should have done it silently via perss conference or such



but now to all that complain and are calling him disrespectfull and such things :

whats the real difference`?

he could have called dan gilbert"hey man i'm sorry i'm leaving cleveland for miami i thank you for all you've done goodbye"

remember he did thank everyone on the tv show... he could have done it louder and more but he did!!

i believe it wouldn't matter dan would still be angry and so be the fans.....

he was not unpolite and behaved like an proffesionall buisnessman maybe thats the problem.


he gave cleveland 7 long years to build a great team.... they should have tradet for young players to grow with bron but they went for old ones in their 30s

[H00PDREAMS]

LeBron James: Love... Not Money.

Growing up I never played much basketball. However it was really popular in my neighborhood and at my school. There have always been a few constants in my life growing up. One of them being that no matter the time of day or the type of weather there was always a bball game going on somewhere around my neighborhood. Each game was the same in my hood. Each game was the same on the playground at school. Before the game started you scan the available players. Usually the person who picks was at the court first or maybe they own the ball. Maybe they are one of the best players on the block. Every game was the same the guy or girl picking first would always pick either the tallest person or their best friend on the court. Almost always it was the buddy that’s picked first. Why was the best friend picked over the tall guy or the fastest guy in town? Because it just made the game more fun. Sure you want to win. But isn’t that much more fun when your friends are winning with you? In high school my bball teams both male and female were all really good friends. They all went to class with another. They all were into the same things dressed alike and even played similar games. When we won the city finals the whole school cheered for the senior varsity boys because we all knew how close they were. Those kids moved from high school, away from the playground and onto college. Something’s get lost in the transition from childhood bball to college bball. The dynamics change and sometimes the love gets lost. Players have to play for a state they care little about and with others they know little about. Sure some get it and move on. Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of playing with nothing invested. Then there are those that realize that it would be in their best interest to ride this thing as long as they can. When they realize “ I have a talent that I can earn a free ride in college from and possibly make a living from”. The lucky few that make it to the NBA are fortunate but once there, the prospects all have different agendas. Some want the fame and the money. While other seek a way to make a decent living without working. Some see it as a dream come true. Some it’s all they know.
Where does LeBron fit in this story? He is the neighborhood baller that always picked you to be on his team whenever you came to the playground because you were a crackup during the week in school. He is the kid you knew in high school that lead your hometown team to city then state. He is that kid that played with his friends no matter where he went. Basketball was an escape and it was fun. Glory was better with your homies around singing and cheering with you. Kids who were on your level and that could relate to. You knew all the time they were with you they were giving their all. That is who LeBron really is. He is the next Jordan or Kobe. I think he thought he wanted to be those things because everyone told him he should be this one thing. Since day one LeBron has told us he is a team player. Not a one man army. We didn’t listen. He told us at the McDonalds game that it was the players around him that enabled him to fill up the stat sheet. LeBron begged for people he could believe in to come to Cleveland. He didn’t want suck ups. I think he despised it when Andy and others refused to play because they weren’t getting the money they thought they deserved. Why did that bother him? Because he hated just knowing that those players were only there because of how much Cleveland could afford to pay them.
The Olympics was the turning point. LeBron’s basketball world came full circle. Playing with Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Boozer and Howard LeBron was reminded of why he plays the sport. Why we played the sport. LeBron was reminded what those days were like in Akron before all the hype. He remembered what it was like playing with someone on his level. He remembered what is like playing for something they all had in common. They were all Americans and they were playing for HOME. The best players, your friends all on the same team playing for home.
We criticize athletes for less. We accuse them of being greedy; we accuse them of being narcissist. However this one time we are proven wrong. Can you imagine when explained to his agent and Maverick Carter that he wasn’t going to join JayZ or make a billion over night in NYC. Because that’s what people have said that’s what he should want. People said that’s what he could be. Maybe he adores Jordan and respects Kobe but let’s face it, he really wants to be Ervin Magic Johnson. That isn’t an easy task to accomplish but all along that’s what his game has showed us. That’s who he wants to be. Remember that pass to Donyell Marshall at the end of the game that was James telling us then but we didn’t listen. He has the money and prestige to do whatever he wants now. Kobe Bryant gave him advice which he repeated in the interview with Jim Gray. ‘Do what makes you happy.’ That’s exactly what he plans to do. He wants to win. He wants to play with players that all have the same goal. He wants a championship by all means necessary. Legacy? Legendary, he never said that… We said that… That’s what we wanted for him.
The game is always been the same for the very few. It never changes. It’s why Kids show up early in the morning staying late in the rain, sleet or snow. No nets, dirt courts, bent rims, dead rims, and sometimes pot holes the kids still playing out there everywhere. It’s why we all play, it’s why we are fans it why we may all learn to like LeBron again someday. Stories will be written about this guy who loved basketball that much. For love not money and it burns us deep inside that’s what he decided and that is a bit of a shame. Love…Not money. Isn’t that refreshing?

[GotItNow]

lol @ Lebron realizing that he's nothing but a complimentary role player. Have fun riding Dwayne's nuts as you attempt to finally do something in the finals.

You're a joke, "King" James.

LOL, LeRolePlayer....I'm loving it.

[GotItNow]

LeBron James: Love... Not Money.

Growing up I never played much basketball. However it was really popular in my neighborhood and at my school. There have always been a few constants in my life growing up. One of them being that no matter the time of day or the type of weather there was always a bball game going on somewhere around my neighborhood. Each game was the same in my hood. Each game was the same on the playground at school. Before the game started you scan the available players. Usually the person who picks was at the court first or maybe they own the ball. Maybe they are one of the best players on the block. Every game was the same the guy or girl picking first would always pick either the tallest person or their best friend on the court. Almost always it was the buddy that’s picked first. Why was the best friend picked over the tall guy or the fastest guy in town? Because it just made the game more fun. Sure you want to win. But isn’t that much more fun when your friends are winning with you? In high school my bball teams both male and female were all really good friends. They all went to class with another. They all were into the same things dressed alike and even played similar games. When we won the city finals the whole school cheered for the senior varsity boys because we all knew how close they were. Those kids moved from high school, away from the playground and onto college. Something’s get lost in the transition from childhood bball to college bball. The dynamics change and sometimes the love gets lost. Players have to play for a state they care little about and with others they know little about. Sure some get it and move on. Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of playing with nothing invested. Then there are those that realize that it would be in their best interest to ride this thing as long as they can. When they realize “ I have a talent that I can earn a free ride in college from and possibly make a living from”. The lucky few that make it to the NBA are fortunate but once there, the prospects all have different agendas. Some want the fame and the money. While other seek a way to make a decent living without working. Some see it as a dream come true. Some it’s all they know.
Where does LeBron fit in this story? He is the neighborhood baller that always picked you to be on his team whenever you came to the playground because you were a crackup during the week in school. He is the kid you knew in high school that lead your hometown team to city then state. He is that kid that played with his friends no matter where he went. Basketball was an escape and it was fun. Glory was better with your homies around singing and cheering with you. Kids who were on your level and that could relate to. You knew all the time they were with you they were giving their all. That is who LeBron really is. He is the next Jordan or Kobe. I think he thought he wanted to be those things because everyone told him he should be this one thing. Since day one LeBron has told us he is a team player. Not a one man army. We didn’t listen. He told us at the McDonalds game that it was the players around him that enabled him to fill up the stat sheet. LeBron begged for people he could believe in to come to Cleveland. He didn’t want suck ups. I think he despised it when Andy and others refused to play because they weren’t getting the money they thought they deserved. Why did that bother him? Because he hated just knowing that those players were only there because of how much Cleveland could afford to pay them.
The Olympics was the turning point. LeBron’s basketball world came full circle. Playing with Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Boozer and Howard LeBron was reminded of why he plays the sport. Why we played the sport. LeBron was reminded what those days were like in Akron before all the hype. He remembered what it was like playing with someone on his level. He remembered what is like playing for something they all had in common. They were all Americans and they were playing for HOME. The best players, your friends all on the same team playing for home.
We criticize athletes for less. We accuse them of being greedy; we accuse them of being narcissist. However this one time we are proven wrong. Can you imagine when explained to his agent and Maverick Carter that he wasn’t going to join JayZ or make a billion over night in NYC. Because that’s what people have said that’s what he should want. People said that’s what he could be. Maybe he adores Jordan and respects Kobe but let’s face it, he really wants to be Ervin Magic Johnson. That isn’t an easy task to accomplish but all along that’s what his game has showed us. That’s who he wants to be. Remember that pass to Donyell Marshall at the end of the game that was James telling us then but we didn’t listen. He has the money and prestige to do whatever he wants now. Kobe Bryant gave him advice which he repeated in the interview with Jim Gray. ‘Do what makes you happy.’ That’s exactly what he plans to do. He wants to win. He wants to play with players that all have the same goal. He wants a championship by all means necessary. Legacy? Legendary, he never said that… We said that… That’s what we wanted for him.
The game is always been the same for the very few. It never changes. It’s why Kids show up early in the morning staying late in the rain, sleet or snow. No nets, dirt courts, bent rims, dead rims, and sometimes pot holes the kids still playing out there everywhere. It’s why we all play, it’s why we are fans it why we may all learn to like LeBron again someday. Stories will be written about this guy who loved basketball that much. For love not money and it burns us deep inside that’s what he decided and that is a bit of a shame. Love…Not money. Isn’t that refreshing?

Wall of text. Nearly blinded. Please hand out reading glasses next time. U owe me one.

*Probably sucked anyway.

Poll Of One Did It Probably Suck?

[ ] NO
[ ] MAYBE
{x} YES

Judgement served, don't do it again please.

[10scott10]

I want people to remember that I was hating LeBron way before it was cool

[KayDee35]

It's easy to choose loyalty when your organization puts the right pieces around you from all-stars to role players to a good coach. Jerry Krause was partly right in that organizations win championships.

[crazy_me_87]

LeBron James: Love... Not Money.

Growing up I never played much basketball. However it was really popular in my neighborhood and at my school. There have always been a few constants in my life growing up. One of them being that no matter the time of day or the type of weather there was always a bball game going on somewhere around my neighborhood. Each game was the same in my hood. Each game was the same on the playground at school. Before the game started you scan the available players. Usually the person who picks was at the court first or maybe they own the ball. Maybe they are one of the best players on the block. Every game was the same the guy or girl picking first would always pick either the tallest person or their best friend on the court. Almost always it was the buddy that’s picked first. Why was the best friend picked over the tall guy or the fastest guy in town? Because it just made the game more fun. Sure you want to win. But isn’t that much more fun when your friends are winning with you? In high school my bball teams both male and female were all really good friends. They all went to class with another. They all were into the same things dressed alike and even played similar games. When we won the city finals the whole school cheered for the senior varsity boys because we all knew how close they were. Those kids moved from high school, away from the playground and onto college. Something’s get lost in the transition from childhood bball to college bball. The dynamics change and sometimes the love gets lost. Players have to play for a state they care little about and with others they know little about. Sure some get it and move on. Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of playing with nothing invested. Then there are those that realize that it would be in their best interest to ride this thing as long as they can. When they realize “ I have a talent that I can earn a free ride in college from and possibly make a living from”. The lucky few that make it to the NBA are fortunate but once there, the prospects all have different agendas. Some want the fame and the money. While other seek a way to make a decent living without working. Some see it as a dream come true. Some it’s all they know.
Where does LeBron fit in this story? He is the neighborhood baller that always picked you to be on his team whenever you came to the playground because you were a crackup during the week in school. He is the kid you knew in high school that lead your hometown team to city then state. He is that kid that played with his friends no matter where he went. Basketball was an escape and it was fun. Glory was better with your homies around singing and cheering with you. Kids who were on your level and that could relate to. You knew all the time they were with you they were giving their all. That is who LeBron really is. He is the next Jordan or Kobe. I think he thought he wanted to be those things because everyone told him he should be this one thing. Since day one LeBron has told us he is a team player. Not a one man army. We didn’t listen. He told us at the McDonalds game that it was the players around him that enabled him to fill up the stat sheet. LeBron begged for people he could believe in to come to Cleveland. He didn’t want suck ups. I think he despised it when Andy and others refused to play because they weren’t getting the money they thought they deserved. Why did that bother him? Because he hated just knowing that those players were only there because of how much Cleveland could afford to pay them.
The Olympics was the turning point. LeBron’s basketball world came full circle. Playing with Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Boozer and Howard LeBron was reminded of why he plays the sport. Why we played the sport. LeBron was reminded what those days were like in Akron before all the hype. He remembered what it was like playing with someone on his level. He remembered what is like playing for something they all had in common. They were all Americans and they were playing for HOME. The best players, your friends all on the same team playing for home.
We criticize athletes for less. We accuse them of being greedy; we accuse them of being narcissist. However this one time we are proven wrong. Can you imagine when explained to his agent and Maverick Carter that he wasn’t going to join JayZ or make a billion over night in NYC. Because that’s what people have said that’s what he should want. People said that’s what he could be. Maybe he adores Jordan and respects Kobe but let’s face it, he really wants to be Ervin Magic Johnson. That isn’t an easy task to accomplish but all along that’s what his game has showed us. That’s who he wants to be. Remember that pass to Donyell Marshall at the end of the game that was James telling us then but we didn’t listen. He has the money and prestige to do whatever he wants now. Kobe Bryant gave him advice which he repeated in the interview with Jim Gray. ‘Do what makes you happy.’ That’s exactly what he plans to do. He wants to win. He wants to play with players that all have the same goal. He wants a championship by all means necessary. Legacy? Legendary, he never said that… We said that… That’s what we wanted for him.
The game is always been the same for the very few. It never changes. It’s why Kids show up early in the morning staying late in the rain, sleet or snow. No nets, dirt courts, bent rims, dead rims, and sometimes pot holes the kids still playing out there everywhere. It’s why we all play, it’s why we are fans it why we may all learn to like LeBron again someday. Stories will be written about this guy who loved basketball that much. For love not money and it burns us deep inside that’s what he decided and that is a bit of a shame. Love…Not money. Isn’t that refreshing?

wow amazing post thanks man

i think we are in the same frame of mind in that regard...

we wanted him to be the next Jordan..... we wanted it so hard that we were blind to see that this is not what fits him best... he tryed very hard led the leauge in scoring averaged 30 points 2 times and came close last year

but i remember in his first summer leauge interview 2003 he said he wanted to be like Penny Hardaway and Magic Johnson ....not a word about Jordan....

he never claimed to be the next Jordan or even Kobe


we did.....

so let us say we try let him be himself... the next Magic .....the first Lebron =)

we made this all up....not him.... we hyped him we said he will be GOAT ... he never did

we did

[Nickson]

crazyme87, how can you not compare the Lebron and Kobe situations?

Kobe signed with Lakers instead of the Clippers or the Bulls when the roster was just as bad - actually worse than Cleveland's.

Shaq had just left, and all the Lakers really had was a young not-yet-developed Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.

Sure Kobe explored leaving, but at the end of the day, he decided to stay in LA and challenge himself to find a way to win there.

[GotItNow]

wow amazing post thanks man

i think we are in the same frame of mind in that regard...

we wanted him to be the next Jordan..... we wanted it so hard that we were blind to see that this is not what fits him best... he tryed very hard led the leauge in scoring averaged 30 points 2 times and came close last year

but i remember in his first summer leauge interview 2003 he said he wanted to be like Penny Hardaway and Magic Johnson ....not a word about Jordan....

he never claimed to be the next Jordan or even Kobe


we did.....

so let us say we try let him be himself... the next Magic .....the first Lebron =)

we made this all up....not him.... we hyped him we said he will be GOAT ... he never did

we did

No one who does not want the spotlight asks for a 1 hour BS special. You can be stupid if you want, it's just that stone cold stupid is a whole nother level.

[GotItNow]

crazyme87, how can you not compare the Lebron and Kobe situations?

Kobe signed with Lakers instead of the Clippers or the Bulls when the roster was just as bad - actually worse than Cleveland's.

Shaq had just left, and all the Lakers really had was a young not-yet-developed Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.

Sure Kobe explored leaving, but at the end of the day, he decided to stay in LA and challenge himself to find a way to win there.

**** please, Kobe is no clean and fresh virgin.

[DayofMourning]

I'm really surprised at all the hate. LeBron wants to be part of something special. In your opinions that means he's worthless. Wow.

Response to this post will be more hate. Put yourself in James' shoes.

[cheenofly523]

In 2003, Ohio State took our crown, last night.. we took their King.

[NO-KG-AI]

crazyme87, how can you not compare the Lebron and Kobe situations?

Kobe signed with Lakers instead of the Clippers or the Bulls when the roster was just as bad - actually worse than Cleveland's.

Shaq had just left, and all the Lakers really had was a young not-yet-developed Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.

Sure Kobe explored leaving, but at the end of the day, he decided to stay in LA and challenge himself to find a way to win there.

Kobe wanted a team that wasn't huge on talent, he'd play as a second fiddle his entire career and wanted to prove he could do it all on his own.

When that experiment failed, he cried for help and tried to force his way out.

[ikidunot]

Multiple police cars are protecting the witness billboard in downtown CLE.

Rumors on the street was they were trying to set fire to it.


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