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HootieRules wrote:If they win 65+ games every year and LeBron is the best player on that team, he's going to win mulitple MVPs. Period.
Ball Boy wrote:HootieRules wrote:Ok, so what matters more, rings or hypothetical votes?
Should've never brought up Gasol and Kobe, bad idea, bad comparison. My whole point was there was a lot of talk about how Kobe couldn't win it without good players PRIOR to when he won these last 2 rings (from everyone, media, former players, etc). Once he won the rings, a lot of that talk died down. Win the rings, everything else takes care of itself.
Uh, there is a HUUUGE difference between winning a ring with Gasol/Ariza and Odom.. And winning a ring with Wade and Bosh. HUUUUUUUUGE difference.
Again, Gasol was a 1 time All-Star that had never won a playoff game. Wade is arguably the 2nd best player in the game and Bosh is one of the best bigs in the game.
Ball Boy wrote:HootieRules wrote:If they win 65+ games every year and LeBron is the best player on that team, he's going to win mulitple MVPs. Period.
LeBron won 66 games with the Cavs. No one is going to be impressed if a team of 3 superstars wins 65 games. Especially since I dont see how LeBrons numbers would stay the same.
kyphi wrote:Ball Boy wrote:HootieRules wrote:If they win 65+ games every year and LeBron is the best player on that team, he's going to win mulitple MVPs. Period.
LeBron won 66 games with the Cavs. No one is going to be impressed if a team of 3 superstars wins 65 games. Especially since I dont see how LeBrons numbers would stay the same.
If it's the best record in the league that year, I'll be impressed.
Vincent 666 wrote:Plus what kind of numbers would Lebron put up with that team.
I say around 24 6 and 5.
That wouldnt be enough for MVPs.
HootieRules wrote:Vincent 666 wrote:Plus what kind of numbers would Lebron put up with that team.
I say around 24 6 and 5.
That wouldnt be enough for MVPs.
Why would his assist and rebounding numbers dip?
Vincent 666 wrote:HootieRules wrote:
Ok, so what matters more, rings or hypothetical votes?
Should've never brought up Gasol and Kobe, bad idea, bad comparison. My whole point was there was a lot of talk about how Kobe couldn't win it without good players PRIOR to when he won these last 2 rings (from everyone, media, former players, etc). Once he won the rings, a lot of that talk died down. Win the rings, everything else takes care of itself.
Of course from our prespective as fans, rings matter the most but that doesnt necessarily mean that players look at it the same way.
Id bet Lebron wants to rings AND get all the individual accolades and recognition that he feels he has coming...... in which case it would make more sense for him to sign with the Bulls than the Heat.
An Unbiased Fan wrote:J-Ville Smoke wrote:I think Lebron's numbers would stay the same, as would Wade's and Bosh's. It's three players who would be doing 90% of the scoring. You would never sit all three at the same time, therefore 10+ minutes a game you'd see Wade/Bosh, 10+ you'd see Wade/Bron and 10+ you'd see Bron/Bosh.
They'd score 120 points a game. Probably 30+ a night on fast breaks.
Nope. All three have a high usage rate, and there will be a drop off in stats.
Wade - 34.9 USG%
Lebron - 33.5 USG%
Bosh - 28.7 USG%
Ball Boy wrote:HootieRules wrote:Vincent 666 wrote:Plus what kind of numbers would Lebron put up with that team.
I say around 24 6 and 5.
That wouldnt be enough for MVPs.
Why would his assist and rebounding numbers dip?
His rebounding numbers probably wouldnt.. But LeBron AND Wade wont average 7+ assists. It depends on which one of them dominates the ball more.
Rambo44 wrote:There's something about Chicago that makes no sense to me in terms of LeBron wanting to go there. Both LeBron and Rose make their impact with their point guard skills. LeBron is basically a point forward, a point guard in a forward's body (a big forward). I just don't see how they complement each other well at all. It's not exactly a match made in heaven. And if Noah is the second name mentioned, he's a solid big man, but nothing to get ecstatic over.
Then there's the fact Rose shoots about 26% from 3 point range. That's a HUGE difference between Rose and Mo Williams who shot 43 to 44% from 3 point range. When LeBron is dishing out to him for the open shot, it's just not going to happen. It will be frustrating and opposing teams will have an easier time caving in on LeBron to stop his inside game. I think this is an important factor people need to realize. I understand Chicago is a cool city with a great basketball history, but if it doesn't make sense then it doesn't make sense.
I'm a big fan of Rose and Noah, but it just doesn't make sense for LeBron.
J-Ville Smoke wrote:An Unbiased Fan wrote:J-Ville Smoke wrote:I think Lebron's numbers would stay the same, as would Wade's and Bosh's. It's three players who would be doing 90% of the scoring. You would never sit all three at the same time, therefore 10+ minutes a game you'd see Wade/Bosh, 10+ you'd see Wade/Bron and 10+ you'd see Bron/Bosh.
They'd score 120 points a game. Probably 30+ a night on fast breaks.
Nope. All three have a high usage rate, and there will be a drop off in stats.
Wade - 34.9 USG%
Lebron - 33.5 USG%
Bosh - 28.7 USG%
Lebron averaged 30
Wade averaged 26
Bosh averaged 24
Thats about 80 points from those three. Considering Miami would basically round out that roster with role players/vets/etc (none of which will average 10ppg) Are we really assuming that that STACKED team will only average around 95 points? Because if all their stats drop off (all three become around 21-24ppg scorers) that means the scrub role players will have to account for about 40 ppg. I don't see that happening.
HootieRules wrote:Vincent 666 wrote:Plus what kind of numbers would Lebron put up with that team.
I say around 24 6 and 5.
That wouldnt be enough for MVPs.
Why would his assist and rebounding numbers dip?
jeffjtk1234 wrote:can't believe there is 15 pages of this nonsense...
Stephen A. Smith has NO idea what Lebron is going to do. The guy just needs publicity. Same as Jalen Rose did. Its getting pretty annoying now with everyone AND their mother thinking they know where Lebron is going. Who cares anyway, the guy has never won a ring. Sure he is an amazing basketball player, but so was malone, barkley, ewing.
Why is this guy getting SO much publicity?!?!?!
I want to someday be like LeBron James and underachieve my way into a much better job
jeffjtk1234 wrote:
I want to someday be like LeBron James and underachieve my way into a much better job
