Has any team ever been successfull with two point guards??

JustCame · Post #21 » by **JustCame** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:48 am

Every team has at least 2 point guards..the minimum is 2.

Post #22 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:56 am

I like 2 PG offenses. Granted, they don't always translate to wins, but I've always liked that as an option.

The 97-98 suns had 3 PGs and they were a fun team.

Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson and Steve Nash, often playing 2 of them on the court at the same time.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/1998.html

and the Jordan Bulls didn't really play a traditional PG system but they shared PG duties with Jordan/Pippen and whoever filled the PG role, but I'm not sure they qualify.

But perhaps the best answer I can think of is the 75-76 Celtics cause they won the title and they had 2 PGs, JoJo White (who played PG but perhaps was better suited as a SG) and Charlie Scott (another PG who liked to shoot). I remember reading articles criticizing that decision cause they'd fight over the ball, but hey, they won. Can't argue with the results.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1976.html

I hate the Celtics now and I hated losing to them then (I was around in the mid 70s), but looking back, I have a lot of respect for the teams they put together in the 70s, which to me is the golden age of b-ball.

Wone · Post #23 » by **Wone** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:58 am

Roger Murdock wrote:The Mavs last season.

this. and they were also starting two pgs during their 67 win season with terry and harris. i dont consider terry a sg.

Vindicater · Post #24 » by **Vindicater** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:31 am

Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan...

Two point guards

6 championships

rewill17 · Post #25 » by **rewill17** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:36 am

JustCame wrote:Every team has at least 2 point guards..the minimum is 2.

I meant two STARTING PGs. But to your comment, Phil Jackson's triangle offense teams didn't really need minimum two point guards, or any in the rotation.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #26 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:43 am

Jim O'Brien always tried it with the Pacers. That lineup would have a +/- of -15 in 4 minutes before he decided 3 centers was the way to go.

richboy · Post #27 » by **richboy** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:55 am

I'm not sure what the OP means. Historically in the past most teams had 2 PGs in there backcourt. During that time they were referred to as first guard and second guard. Your second guard had all the skills of the first guard just didn't handle it as much. One of the reasons why pace has dropped in the league is teams have only one ball handler in the game. Reality is a lot of 2 guards of the 80s would have been considered point guards today.

Post #28 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:26 am

Bobbie Jackson and Mike Bibbi were great toguether, but never won anything other than Sacto love.

Darain · Post #29 » by **Darain** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:30 am

Lebron/Wade

jinxed · Post #30 » by **jinxed** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:57 am

DJ and Ainge? Or was Ainge considered a SG?

BALLINari · Post #31 » by **BALLINari** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:03 am

Isiah Thomas had Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis together on the Knicks

I think they both were on the court with Nate Robinson once

giberish · Post #32 » by **giberish** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:10 am

Has any team ever been successful with two small guards starting / playing heavy minutes together?

Good teams playing 2 pg's always have one with enough size to defend sg's.

DaFan334 · Post #33 » by **DaFan334** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:37 am

George Karl seems to play around with the idea frequently with success with Lawson and Chancey/Felton.

MarJJMar · Post #34 » by **MarJJMar** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:49 am

KJ/Kidd/Nash

Kidd/Penny

Elden Payton · Post #35 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:49 am

Allen Iverson & Eric snow.

Can't believe noone has mentioned this, they made the finals which constitutes success & both were natural point guards.

Johnny Firpo · Post #36 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:54 am

I think OP might thinking about the Clippers. I think it will work, because Billups is an elite shooter, has good size and strength, and a once elite, still very good defender. Others already listed the precedents, it can be done.

DaFan334 · Post #37 » by **DaFan334** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:35 am

Sik Infant wrote:Allen Iverson & Eric snow.

Can't believe noone has mentioned this, they made the finals which constitutes success & both were natural point guards.

Since when was Allen Iverson ever a natural point guard? That was maybe his biggest problem. He had a point guard body but was a 2 his whole career.

JustCame · Post #38 » by **JustCame** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:21 pm

rewill17 wrote:
JustCame wrote:Every team has at least 2 point guards..the minimum is 2.

I meant two STARTING PGs. But to your comment, Phil Jackson's triangle offense teams didn't really need minimum two point guards, or any in the rotation.

lol I was being a smart ass. It's mandatory to have at least 2 PGs on the roster.

turk3d · Post #39 » by **turk3d** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:23 pm

pass first wrote:
old rem wrote:GSW currently uses Ellis + Curry and they win backcourt matchups but had various other problems.

You could argue they'd be a candidate but only if their team is succesfull first.

Last season combined, they outscored their opposing guards which I consider a win (not their fault if the rest of their team couldn't outplay their opposition). TBH, Curry and Ellis are more like "Combo guards" (can play the point and the 2, have their inadequacies at both positions).

With regard to the Clippers situation, Billups may be actually more of a natural 2 (because of his size and strength) so I think that should work out well for them. I also believe that the "combo guard" is a new trend for NBA backcourts and we're going to see more of this in the future.

Guys like Derrick Rose (and even Westbrook to a degree) are pgs who like to score the ball. The "pure" pgs such as CP3 and Steve Nash I think may be a dying breed in the NBA, everyone likes to score nowadays with the exception of a select few.

john2jer · Post #40 » by **john2jer** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:57 pm

JustCame wrote:
rewill17 wrote:
JustCame wrote:Every team has at least 2 point guards..the minimum is 2.

I meant two STARTING PGs. But to your comment, Phil Jackson's triangle offense teams didn't really need minimum two point guards, or any in the rotation.

lol I was being a smart ass. It's mandatory to have at least 2 PGs on the roster.

It's not "mandatory", it's just stupid to not have 2 PGs. The only thing that's mandatory is the team has at least 13 players on the team. Which positions they play isn't mandatory.