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Post#1 Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:44 pm by CoachKobe

We all know that guys like Durant and Nowitzki are the prototypes of jump-shooting big men. But stumbling over some of Clifford Robinson stats (6-10 guy, shot 37% and 38% from downtown while averaging 5-6 3PA) I was wondering:
Where did it start with the shooting big men?
Are there other prime examples?
Will this development increase in the future?

Obviously, everybody's talking about the stretch 4, however, most of those guys aren't really well-rounded shooters.
But isn't this the best that can happen to a team? A 6-10+ guy who can hit it from everywhere - and is therefore basically unguardable?
Shouldn't colleges lay more emphasis on this?
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Post#2 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:46 pm by Goldtop

lol at first glance I thought the thread was called "shooting big ben"
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Post#3 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:51 pm by DieHardBallFan

Well Bosh lead the league in 15% corner jump shots last year. Including guards. Pretty sure hes up top this year as well. So I would put him up top with best shooting big men.
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Post#4 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:54 pm by co_laper

There were plenty. Keith Van Horn? Antoine Walker? Tony Kukoc qualifies?

But this is surely going to increase in the future. The game has geared toward the perimeter, so you're going to see a lot of small ball.

Also, there's more than just being 6-10 and can shoot it to make you unguardable unless you're being guarded by 5-10 guys. I'll give you a 6-10 guy who can hit it from anywhere. Steve Novak and Matt Bonner.. Hardly unguardable.
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Post#5 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:54 pm by colts18

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Post#6 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:58 pm by tsherkin

Dave Cowens and Bob McAdoo come to mind as early trend setters. Lanier had some range. Simms, Uncle Cliffy, Perkins...
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Post#7 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:08 pm by Imon

I think there are plenty of shooting 4's and 5's nowadays.
What would be a more welcoming trend, I think, is if the trend started to go in the reverse direction and guys started learning how to develop a fundamentally sound low-post game.

I think the problem is that a lot of young bigs want to be like guards or play facing the basket or they started as guards and hit a growth spurt.
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Post#8 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:09 pm by EH15

DieHardBallFan wrote:Well Bosh lead the league in 15% corner jump shots last year. Including guards. Pretty sure hes up top this year as well. So I would put him up top with best shooting big men.

He's shooting 52.1% in mid range jumpers :o He's practically leading the league in this area. No body shoots a higher percentage with at least 100 shots.

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerShots. ... 0&pageNo=1
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Post#9 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:18 pm by Coaster80

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Post#10 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:18 pm by frizzledizzle

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Post#11 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:19 pm by frizzledizzle

Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy.
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Post#12 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:22 pm by frizzledizzle

EH15 wrote:
DieHardBallFan wrote:Well Bosh lead the league in 15% corner jump shots last year. Including guards. Pretty sure hes up top this year as well. So I would put him up top with best shooting big men.

He's shooting 52.1% in mid range jumpers :o He's practically leading the league in this area. No body shoots a higher percentage with at least 100 shots.

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerShots. ... 0&pageNo=1


I woulda guessed David West.

He has the highest mid range shooting overall for 300+ attempts though.
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Post#13 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:31 pm by tsherkin

My iPhone corrected it, bt "Simms" was supposed to be "Sikma."
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Post#14 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:31 pm by kasino

We've had plenty of shooting bigs, few have been stars, but what I would want more is physical bigs that can hit the three. Be able to guard the post and stretch the floor on the other end.

Side note as the league goes more to the perimeter the better chances to have a Russell or Wilt imo
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Post#15 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:38 pm by Inevitable

I remember being shocked as a young kid in the 90's seeing 6'10 Derrick Coleman shooting 3's.

Looking at his stats now in 00-01 he had a higher 3p% than his FG% which is pretty crazy but he did only play 34 games.
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Post#16 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:54 pm by The4thHorseman

Sabonis didn't have great 3pt range, but could hit from about anywhere else just inside the arc. Listed as 7'3 but not sure if that was exaggerated.
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Post#17 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:15 pm by justinian

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Post#18 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:17 pm by PetroNet

it was harder to put a stretch 4/jumpshooter at PF in the past era's because there were more post threats who could punish him on the other end.

now you can count the amount of 4's who post up on 1 hand
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Post#19 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:31 pm by Antrim

The4thHorseman wrote:Sabonis didn't have great 3pt range, but could hit from about anywhere else just inside the arc. Listed as 7'3 but not sure if that was exaggerated.


He was 7'3 without shoes, 7'4 in today's NBA.
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Post#20 Re: Shooting Big Men
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:42 pm by NY Kicks

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