Did your favorite team overpay in the offseason?

[Meeksology]

Thanks for taking the time to do this, pretty interesting stuff

[packforfreedom]

According to this, Ben Gordon should pay 500000 to play for an NBA-Team

[EntropyPR]

Dallas overpaid but it will probably be worth it in the end.

[MaxRider]

nope

Ariza price is just right
everybody else is just rookie contract and minimum salary

[hands11]

Gortat is making 10.4, not 12M

http://data.shamsports.com/content/page ... izards.jsp

[Illogicality]

Not my favorite team, but I don't know what the magic were doing this offseason

[JDR720]

Marvin Williams gets paid 2 million less than Lance Stephenson, Charlotte was on a mission to get a Jazz player

[kerry kittles]

Nets: Considering we had no money to spend we couldn't overpay anyone so No

[Boarder Patrol]

Obviously putting a ton of stake in one stat but this is cool and informative. Makes me all the happier when Bargs and Amare are gone.

[pacers33granger]

Interesting analysis. Stats will always be a tough way to characterize players and you'll have some ones that you can see are clearly wrong (Collison being worth 10 mil, Augustin worth 11 mil, etc.). On the other hand you can see that guys like Jeff Adrien are more than worth their contract when it's tough to see that with just traditional stats.

I like that Aaron Gray should be paid 178k and Brandon Rush should give a team 712k to play for them. Also like seeing that Miles is basically spot on (a tad overpaid) by this. You should add Stuckey though.

[BoshtimusPrime]

Two numbers: 5/124

Could have been worse though. You guys got a discount.

[wGriffin]

Thanks for all the feedback.

I enjoyed reading it and hats off to the amount of time and effort put into it, believe it does have it's merit, however the flaws become apparent when comparing players from team's on opposite spectrum's. Player's Win Shares are directly influenced by a team's number of wins. Referring to WS calculations...

In my system, one win is equivalent to one Win Share.

There is occasional error, however the intention is that the Win Shares are divvied up amongst the players according to varying factors (mostly performance based) that will cumulatively be about the number of wins the team itself had.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html

That's why lesser players whom happen to play on good teams are supposedly much more valuable than players whom are believed to be better by contrast that play on bad teams.

Yeah, there are flaws with wins shares that unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to address but still figured it would be the best overall metric to try this with (I considered PER, when I have free time I'll try pluggin in PER as well just out of curiosity)

Gortat is making 10.4, not 12M

http://data.shamsports.com/content/page ... izards.jsp

This year yes, but his deal is 5/$60m, so he makes an average of $12m per year which is what I used in this

Interesting analysis. Stats will always be a tough way to characterize players and you'll have some ones that you can see are clearly wrong (Collison being worth 10 mil, Augustin worth 11 mil, etc.). On the other hand you can see that guys like Jeff Adrien are more than worth their contract when it's tough to see that with just traditional stats.

I like that Aaron Gray should be paid 178k and Brandon Rush should give a team 712k to play for them. Also like seeing that Miles is basically spot on (a tad overpaid) by this. You should add Stuckey though.

Stuckey, Rodney
Contract: 1y/$1,227,985
Win Shares: 2.2
Cost per win: 558175
Difference per win: $1,221,825
Annual real contract value: $3,916,000

[wGriffin]

Williams, Mo
Contract: 1y/$3,750,000
Win Shares: 2.2
Cost per win: 1,704,545.45
Difference per win: $75,455
Annual real contract value: $3,916,000

Closest one yet in terms of actual contract/projected contract, wonder if Flip Saunders has been reading this thread (if you're reading this Flip Saunders send Kevin Love to the bay already you don't need Klay)

I'll add Parker when his contract extension info is released, are there any other recent signings I'm missing?

[HartfordWhalers]

Sixers signed Pierre Jackson who is missing from the list.

~500k for a guy who will not play the whole season, so what does that equal when you divide 500k by 0? That cost per win is going to look rather poor.

[wGriffin]

Sixers signed Pierre Jackson who is missing from the list.

~500k for a guy who will not play the whole season, so what does that equal when you divide 500k by 0? That cost per win is going to look rather poor.

Sixers are a unique situation where I'm sure they're intentionally paying for losses, haha

[Zion Wembanyama]

2015 1st (top 3 protected) for Asik (expiring)

TBD.

***I'm not thrilled at the notion of not bringing in any 1st round for three straight seasons (including 2015), but a lot could change between now and next June.

[Dupp]

We overpaid Irving but it was for the greater good.

[wGriffin]

Parker, Tony
Average Annual Contract: $12,500,000
Win Shares: 5.9
Cost per win: 2,118,644.07
Difference per win: $-338,644
Annual real contract value: $10,502,000

Marshall, Kendall
Average Annual Contract: $731,407
Win Shares: 0.9
Cost per win: $812,674.45
Difference per win: $967,326
Annual real contract value: $1,602,000

Any others I'm missing?