Which position would win in a tournament of all time greats?

boren · Post #21 » by **boren** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:02 pm

stunnar0b wrote:Kareem, shaq, Hakeem, Duncan, Russell

...and:

reapaman wrote:Power Fowards
Duncan
R.Wallace
Nowitzki
Garnett
Barkley

Who's handling the ball and bringing it across half court with those teams against a team of PG thieves?

Shot Clock · Post #22 » by **Shot Clock** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:03 pm

bleeds_purple wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:Centers. really. and Guards would have better chance than pf/sf at beating them. Basically all-star center lineup means you are shooting outside.

Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

You could imagine setting up a system where they pass without dribbling to get it into the post using their superior height.

No, I really tried and I can't

Just can't see them passing their way up court against a bunch of ballhawks.

boren · Post #23 » by **boren** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:06 pm

Def Swami wrote:Play Shaq at PG. Centers take it easy.

There's zero chance Shaq gets the ball across half court dribbling when guarded by Stockton.

bleeds_purple · Post #24 » by **bleeds_purple** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:08 pm

Shot Clock wrote:
bleeds_purple wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

You could imagine setting up a system where they pass without dribbling to get it into the post using their superior height.

No, I really tried and I can't

Just can't see them passing their way up court against a bunch of ballhawks.

Just think of it as a series of post ups. Center seals the smaller man, receives the ball, and passes to the next guy. Should be able to get that down the court fairly quickly like that.

PDX MM · Post #25 » by **PDX MM** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:14 pm

Half court - centers no question.
Full court - guards, probably SG then PG

NapoleonII · Post #26 » by **NapoleonII** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:26 pm

choppermagic wrote:basketball is a team sport. It doesnt work like that. While you can probably put the top 4 sprinters on the same relay team and get great results, putting 5 of any position is going to be tricky. You dont see baseball teams put out 9 catchers or 9 pitchers on the field.

I think almost all of us are aware that this does not happen in real life and doesn't make sense to actually do it. Pretty sure most here have a general idea of how basketball is played.

Cuban_Linx · Post #27 » by **Cuban_Linx** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:05 pm

This could be a nice thread if OP just went with "which positions has the best top 5 ever" instead of making people argue about something stupid like why Shaq wouldn't be able to bring the ball up when guarded by Stockton.

vexen · Post #28 » by **vexen** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:19 pm

SG

PG - Iverson or D Wade or Jerry West (can't pick)
SG - Kobe
SF - Jordan
PF - KD
C - George Gervin

Good luck Guarding that.

But KD is not a shooting guard.. bla bla check it out.
http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/top-10- ... uards.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3047285
http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.ca/2007 ... guard.html

Prokorov · Post #29 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:22 pm

im not sure who is beating a team of Olojuwon, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, and Kareem.

certainly the PG team isnt stopping them

vexen · Post #30 » by **vexen** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:26 pm

Prokorov wrote:im not sure who is beating a team of Olojuwon, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, and Kareem.

certainly the PG team isnt stopping them

They wouldn't be able to get it over half court, even in half court centers can not guard elite SG on the perimeter they just don't have the foot speed. Anyone who plays ball knows.. When a big guy is on you it's party time :-)

aal04 · Post #31 » by **aal04** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:29 pm

Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:Centers. really. and Guards would have better chance than pf/sf at beating them. Basically all-star center lineup means you are shooting outside.

Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

Yeah they would. It is 10x easier to dribble past a guard, or pass the ball to an open player than it is to try and shoot over someone with 4-6 inch height advantage.

Prokorov · Post #32 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:30 pm

vexen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:im not sure who is beating a team of Olojuwon, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, and Kareem.

certainly the PG team isnt stopping them

They wouldn't be able to get it over half court.

why not? those guys were all outstanding passers, all high bbiq guys. they could easily back their way down court, or do it via the pass. this isnt a team of gorge murseans and john koncaks. these guys were athletic, couldnt handle the ball, and pass and had high bbiq's.

also, big guys dont shrink. small guys get tired.

i think the big team would crush the small team. like by 40 or 50.

vexen · Post #33 » by **vexen** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:30 pm

aal04 wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:Centers. really. and Guards would have better chance than pf/sf at beating them. Basically all-star center lineup means you are shooting outside.

Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

Yeah they would. It is 10x easier to dribble past a guard, or pass the ball to an open player than it is to try and shoot over someone with 4-6 inch height advantage.

LOL - centers don't stand a chance in anyway IMHO
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkuQQxh-pc[/youtube]

vexen · Post #34 » by **vexen** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:38 pm

Prokorov wrote:
vexen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:im not sure who is beating a team of Olojuwon, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, and Kareem.

certainly the PG team isnt stopping them

They wouldn't be able to get it over half court.

why not? those guys were all outstanding passers, all high bbiq guys. they could easily back their way down court, or do it via the pass. this isnt a team of gorge murseans and john koncaks. these guys were athletic, couldnt handle the ball, and pass and had high bbiq's.

also, big guys dont shrink. small guys get tired.

i think the big team would crush the small team. like by 40 or 50.

If this was the case someone would have tried this in the NBA no way it would work. You really think Shaq could guard Iverson? Shaq trying to bring the ball up vs AI, he would be out of breath by the time he got to half court. Iverson could literally do circles around him with one hand tied behind his back before he scored.

Shot Clock · Post #35 » by **Shot Clock** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:38 pm

aal04 wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:Centers. really. and Guards would have better chance than pf/sf at beating them. Basically all-star center lineup means you are shooting outside.

Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

Yeah they would. It is 10x easier to dribble past a guard, or pass the ball to an open player than it is to try and shoot over someone with 4-6 inch height advantage.

You don't shoot over him, you blow past him...

boren · Post #36 » by **boren** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:46 pm

Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:You don't shoot over him, you blow past him...

And if he tries to keep some space to prevent that, you just shoot free jumpers. In the full court, Centers can't defend guards. Guards can steal the ball repeatedly from centers that have to dribble a lot. Guards win, it's only a question of SG vs PG.

PG: Stockton-Kidd-BigO-Isiah-Magic
vs
SG: Jordan-Kobe-Drexler-West-Wade

boren · Post #37 » by **boren** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:48 pm

PDX MM wrote:Half court - centers no question.
Full court - guards, probably SG then PG

This ^ is the correct answer (assuming today's rules where zone defense is allowed).

aal04 · Post #38 » by **aal04** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:56 am

Shot Clock wrote:
aal04 wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:Center wouldn't get across half court with the SF lineup

Yeah they would. It is 10x easier to dribble past a guard, or pass the ball to an open player than it is to try and shoot over someone with 4-6 inch height advantage.

You don't shoot over him, you blow past him...

Lol. you dont blow past a 7foot hof center, they can be one step behind a 6'5 guard and still block them with ease from behind. Not to mention the help defense from other Goat centers. The only thing higher on the blocked shots list would be the altered shots list.

No one is scoring inside against a goat center team

Biggest guard is probably magic. he aint doing chit to shaq, hakeem, duncan, wilt inside. He has to settle for js from 18+ foot

shukle · Post #39 » by **shukle** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:05 am

I think SF wins it. They have speed, athleticism and size.

Centers don't stand a chance. Bringing it up court is gonna be hard and then even if they manage to score, the other team can just out run them to the hoop everytime. No way they can get back on defense ever...
So I think it's SF vs SG battle that SF wins

Saints14 · Post #40 » by **Saints14** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:11 am

I feel like Small Forward is the correct answer here. The best Small Forwards in the game have guard skills in a bigger body, big man skills in a smaller body, or both. Small Forward is probably the position with the best combination of size and athleticism. You could get an extremely versatile lineup that can handle the ball, shoot, pass, defend the perimeter and hold its own in the paint.