Lou Williams named 6th man of the year

FirstInkTDot · Post #61 » by **FirstInkTDot** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:08 pm

Some people need to re-evaluate what "Robbed" means.

giberish · Post #62 » by **giberish** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:14 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:Like Zach Lowe said, it's pretty hard to give the 6th man of the year award to a player who was a locker room / chemistry problem with the team he started the season with, so much so that they would trade him for a couple of picks.

Well deserved for Lou Will.

There's also a tendency to ignore defense - which is why the award was between Lou Williams and Isiah Thomas (and Jamal Crawford has won several times). If voters cared about overall offense + defense impact Iggy would have been a favorite.

Post #63 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:16 pm

FirstInkTDot wrote:Some people need to re-evaluate what "Robbed" means.

Yeah, that's what I've been trying to say this whole time.

Sure, you might believe IT deserved it, but robbed implies it was a massive mistake. Lou Williams had a great year on a team with a better record. It's not INSANE that he won it.

Anticon · Post #64 » by **Anticon** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:17 pm

If IT had this impact all year he would have won. But Lou cemented his reputation from the beginning of the year and kept winning games until the very end.

There were at least 4 to 5 games, maybe more, the Raptors don't win without Lou.

These awards really are about full year peformance. Lots of guys go on runs at certain parts of the year, you can't give an award on that basis.

If IT had been in the running from his Phoenix performance he would have done better, but his repuatation was actually quite low then if I recall.

TheBatman · Post #65 » by **TheBatman** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:23 pm

6 man like I'm Lou Will. #wethenorth

Post #66 » by **ken6199** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:32 pm

M4P wrote:
omerome wrote:
M4P wrote:wat.

Isaiah pushed a rebuilding Celtics squad to the playoffs over teams like IND and Miami... this was his to lose.

Lou Williams helped play a role on a surprisingly good Hawks team not only to the playoffs, but as the #1 seed. I think it was his to lose.

Lou Williams is on the Raptors buddy.

He meant 'addition by subtraction'.

beach house · Post #67 » by **beach house** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:40 pm

dautjazz wrote:LOL Gobert didn't even come out top 14 though he qualified.

unwritten nba rule that only combo guards win 6man...

GuyverX · Post #68 » by **GuyverX** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:21 pm

Well deserved. He really elevated the Atlanta Hawks this year.

Edrees · Post #69 » by **Edrees** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:34 pm

He shows you can still be the same player even after an injury like he had

abark · Post #70 » by **abark** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:37 pm

simple_jack wrote:Well deserved.

Raps don't finish top 4 without Lou Williams.

Yea IT is the better player but Lou was putting up #'s all year.

One of the only consistent Raptors.

IT had better numbers on the year. He put up 15 ppg on Phoenix, same as Lou. Then he scored 19 after the Boston trade.

People are acting like IT wasn't already playing at least as well as Lou before the trade. The way he played in Boston is just icing.

Post #71 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:37 pm

In before everyone says Iguodala got robbed...

Oh wait, no one is bringing him up at all. Okay. Not like he's a top 5 player on the best team in the league taking the 6th man role specifically to strengthen the bench, aka the role which makes the 6MOY award make sense as something worth honoring. Much better to give it to "the guy on the bench who does nothing but shoot the ball" I suppose.

Post #72 » by **wetsthebed** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:38 pm

username_taken wrote:Could have gone either way between him or IT, the only real injustice here is that IT didn't even get a top 3 vote on 30 of the 130 ballots.

One of which was Cedric Maxwell of all people.

abark · Post #73 » by **abark** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:43 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:In before everyone says Iguodala got robbed...

Oh wait, no one is bringing him up at all. Okay. Not like he's a top 5 player on the best team in the league taking the 6th man role specifically to strengthen the bench, aka the role which makes the 6MOY award make sense as something worth honoring. Much better to give it to "the guy on the bench who does nothing but shoot the ball" I suppose.

Its an award for SG's that are too short to start. Add the fact that he's not a scorer and Iggy was never gonna win.

MoMoneyMoProbs · Post #74 » by **MoMoneyMoProbs** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:47 pm

omerome wrote:
M4P wrote:wat.

Isaiah pushed a rebuilding Celtics squad to the playoffs over teams like IND and Miami... this was his to lose.

Lou Williams helped play a role on a surprisingly good Hawks team not only to the playoffs, but as the #1 seed. I think it was his to lose.

Definitely sig worthy!

Post #75 » by **infinite11285** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:57 pm

PierceFan4ever wrote:Thomas is the better player.

Better player?

I disagree.

NinjaBro · Post #76 » by **NinjaBro** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:58 pm

LOL at all the haters itt. Truly a cesspool here.

Troubadour · Post #77 » by **Troubadour** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:05 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:In before everyone says Iguodala got robbed...

Oh wait, no one is bringing him up at all. Okay. Not like he's a top 5 player on the best team in the league taking the 6th man role specifically to strengthen the bench, aka the role which makes the 6MOY award make sense as something worth honoring. Much better to give it to "the guy on the bench who does nothing but shoot the ball" I suppose.

Iguodala said he's glad Williams won because he felt he had a bad year.

Atmanne · Post #78 » by **Atmanne** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:08 pm

ESPN forecast was right on target, btw. Well, except for Gobert being 5th. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12692332/espn-forecast-win-nba-sixth-man-award

ROTY: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12692 ... ookie-year
DOPY: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12691 ... layer-year
MVP: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12680 ... in-nba-mvp

mosdef · Post #79 » by **mosdef** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Anticon wrote:If IT had this impact all year he would have won. But Lou cemented his reputation from the beginning of the year and kept winning games until the very end.

There were at least 4 to 5 games, maybe more, the Raptors don't win without Lou.

I dont know Lou lost alot of games because of his chucking or atleast helped lose alot of games. He also takes bad shots all the time

dozendonuts · Post #80 » by **dozendonuts** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:12 pm

ken6199 wrote:
M4P wrote:
omerome wrote:Lou Williams helped play a role on a surprisingly good Hawks team not only to the playoffs, but as the #1 seed. I think it was his to lose.

Lou Williams is on the Raptors buddy.

He meant 'addition by subtraction'.

He admitted he made a mistake still thinking Lou was on the Hawks.