What's Zach LaVine's ceiling?

skones · Post #81 » by **skones** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:30 pm

I just don't think he has the mentality to actually be a star player. I think he'll always do super bone-headed things and for that reason is best suited as a 6th man.

kenwood3333 · Post #82 » by **kenwood3333** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:35 pm

role player on a playoff team

entertaining player on a lottery team

Post #83 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:36 pm

Lavine is interesting.

He's young, just 20 this year as the season started, maybe barely 21 now, IIRC. He's pulling about 19/4/4 PER36 at the moment, and his percentages are reasonable across the board. He's average in efficiency, much-improved at protecting the ball and he looks like he's got some potential as a 55% TS, 20 ppg scorer down the road if he can D up and make decisions well enough to merit 34, 36 minutes a night. He will need the ability to make shots from 3-23 feet first, and he's not good in any spot on the floor in that range at the moment, however, and his 3P% is ALL about being able to murder shots from the corner. He's shooting nearly 52% from the corner this season, and they are almost 14% of his 3PA (around 19% of his makes are from the corner). One has to wonder how he'd react going against starters more regularly, as well.

Keep the tempo crisp, get him out in transition, don't make him your primary playmaker and see what happens as he grows and tries to develop a jumper, maybe a little more proficiency in his PnR game. He's got potential, particularly given his age.

Ror1997 · Post #84 » by **Ror1997** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:42 pm

Ceiling: Dunk Master Flex

tcheco · Post #85 » by **tcheco** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:55 pm

Never thought i'd say that, but he looks like a solid starter in a playoff team.

If he gets the proper support from coach and focus, can see him average 20-4-4 in solid eff

Nazrmohamed · Post #86 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:01 pm

Can't say Ive watched him enough in Minnesota but is it a stretch to believe he could one day be as good as Kevin Johnson was back in the day for the Suns. It was Charles Barkleys team but KJ was a top contributor and that team won a ton of games.

Berserk_Raptor · Post #87 » by **Berserk_Raptor** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:02 pm

a 3pt line dunk?

GameChannel · Post #88 » by **GameChannel** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:40 pm

His ceiling is Russell Westbrook. I think he will actually get there..

Post #89 » by **Slava** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:50 pm

Jason Richardson.

3Diamantidis · Post #90 » by **3Diamantidis** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:55 pm

Higher than rubio's.

Northern hoops · Post #91 » by **Northern hoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:33 am

14 pts on 5-7 shooting and 4-5 from downtown tonight...... after the 1st quarter

TheZachAttack · Post #92 » by **TheZachAttack** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:41 am

Zach's already at 19/3.5/3.5 per 36 this season. His floor, yes his floor, peak is like 20/4/4.

ILOVEIT · Post #93 » by **ILOVEIT** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:01 am

I think the ONLY thing that can limit his potential is between his ears. I see no limit to him athletically. He's quick....an obviously gifted leaper..nice stroke.

Can he develop a left hand....can he go left at all?

Mostly, most stars become stars because of what is between their ears...not how high they can jump. If Anthony Randolph had any maturity or IQ he would have been a super star....

If I were to predict I would say he's be a highlight guy but never rise to a guy who translate into a super star that decides deep runs int the playoffs.

NikolaPekovic · Post #94 » by **NikolaPekovic** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:09 am

tsherkin wrote:Lavine is interesting.

He's young, just 20 this year as the season started, maybe barely 21 now, IIRC. He's pulling about 19/4/4 PER36 at the moment, and his percentages are reasonable across the board. He's average in efficiency, much-improved at protecting the ball and he looks like he's got some potential as a 55% TS, 20 ppg scorer down the road if he can D up and make decisions well enough to merit 34, 36 minutes a night. He will need the ability to make shots from 3-23 feet first, and he's not good in any spot on the floor in that range at the moment, however, and his 3P% is ALL about being able to murder shots from the corner. He's shooting nearly 52% from the corner this season, and they are almost 14% of his 3PA (around 19% of his makes are from the corner). One has to wonder how he'd react going against starters more regularly, as well.

Keep the tempo crisp, get him out in transition, don't make him your primary playmaker and see what happens as he grows and tries to develop a jumper, maybe a little more proficiency in his PnR game. He's got potential, particularly given his age.

He has a jumper. It's just all his mid range jumpers are off the dribble Kobe fadeaways.

For now I'm content with him being a good finisher and three point shooter. His midrange % will improve with his shot selection

Post #95 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:12 am

NikolaPekovic wrote:He has a jumper. It's just all his mid range jumpers are off the dribble Kobe fadeaways.

For now I'm content with him being a good finisher and three point shooter. His midrange % will improve with his shot selection

It's possible that his shooting from 3-23 will improve with better shot selection, sure. But either way, that's still an area where he needs a considerable amount of improvement. Doesn't matter whether it's with shot selection or actual touch, the fact remains that he needs to develop his ability to consistently get and make shots at a reasonable rate in those three broad zones. It is presently an issue, and an area to watch going forward to see if he starts to improve.

Post #96 » by **Klomp** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:17 am

When he's on, he's on

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZacharyBD/status/710272022681669632[/tweet]

Post #97 » by **Klomp** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:55 am

25 points through 3 quarters

alebaba · Post #98 » by **alebaba** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:35 am

I think he can be a super star, he has this swag when I watch him play, can't explain it.

Post #99 » by **Klomp** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:40 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSp6duagULo[/youtube][tweet]https://twitter.com/Twolves_PR/status/710307652299952128[/tweet]

The nice thing is that we've rarely seen him dunk through this stretch. He's spotting up, running curls a la Rip/Ray, pick and roll, finishing through contact. He's really developed his game, and we are starting to see it on a consistent basis.

wablty · Post #100 » by **wablty** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:50 am

tsherkin wrote:Lavine is interesting.

He's young, just 20 this year as the season started, maybe barely 21 now, IIRC. He's pulling about 19/4/4 PER36 at the moment, and his percentages are reasonable across the board. He's average in efficiency, much-improved at protecting the ball and he looks like he's got some potential as a 55% TS, 20 ppg scorer down the road if he can D up and make decisions well enough to merit 34, 36 minutes a night. He will need the ability to make shots from 3-23 feet first, and he's not good in any spot on the floor in that range at the moment, however, and his 3P% is ALL about being able to murder shots from the corner. He's shooting nearly 52% from the corner this season, and they are almost 14% of his 3PA (around 19% of his makes are from the corner). One has to wonder how he'd react going against starters more regularly, as well.

Keep the tempo crisp, get him out in transition, don't make him your primary playmaker and see what happens as he grows and tries to develop a jumper, maybe a little more proficiency in his PnR game. He's got potential, particularly given his age.

He started the last month or two of last season and is starting again (and playing heavy minutes) now. He's doing pretty well. Good games, bad games, but given his age, I think it's possible and maybe likely that he turns into a very good player. He's still got a lot to work on. Like all the Wolves younger guys, he can fall in love with the long 2 just because it's open and sometimes he takes difficult shots before the clock is really wound down- It's great that he can create a shot quickly, but maybe that 18 footer with a hand in your face when there's time left to find a better shot can wait. He's quick enough to get that whenever he wants.