Create your All-Time NBA Defensive team

Post #41 » by **-Sammy-** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:27 am

tundraknight wrote:PG - Steve Nash

SG - James Harden

SF - Adam Morrison

PF -Amare Stoudemire

C - Andrea Bargnani

"Dude, what the hell?!"

- George Gervin

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #42 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:20 am

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BombsquadSammy wrote:
tundraknight wrote:PG - Steve Nash

SG - James Harden

SF - Adam Morrison

PF -Amare Stoudemire

C - Andrea Bargnani

"Dude, what the hell?!"

- George Gervin

"Where the hell am I?" - Corey Maggette

PerkinsFor3 · Post #43 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:30 am

* starts thread, kills any discussion in OP *

DavorFanCroatia · Post #44 » by **DavorFanCroatia** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:41 am

Dennis Johnson
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Kevin Garnett
Bill Russell

Game over

qm22 · Post #45 » by **qm22** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:22 am

I can't find my earlier post, so sorry if I missed it and this is a repeat-

What's the rationale for people putting in John Stockton? He has a good defensive reputation and is one of the GOAT PGs, but I don't know anything arguing he was a top 5 all-time defender at PG.

I also don't think many of these superstars being listed were the best at defense specifically, they were just better all around by far. Even Piston's beloved Isiah Thomas, was not the greatest individual defender.

Jason Kidd could play good defense, CP3 gets a lot of steals, but I think there have been a lot of role players who were better. I'd have to check the numbers but I think backup PGs such as Lindsey Hunter, Delonte West, and Mike James were better than both of those guys (for Mike James, limited to his time with the Pistons before he became a bit dedicated to chucking). Tony Allen, if he could be counted at PG, for sure.

3Diamantidis · Post #46 » by **3Diamantidis** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:37 am

PG. Gary Payton
SG. Michael Jordan
SF. Scottie Pippen
PF. Kevin Garnett
C. Bill Russell

SpreeS · Post #47 » by **SpreeS** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:25 pm

Payton
MJ
AK-47
KG
D-Rob

These guys can survive in any era. They are to fast for 3pt era and to big for 80s to get damage on def end.

thegreenlife · Post #48 » by **thegreenlife** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:49 pm

qm22 wrote:I can't find my earlier post, so sorry if I missed it and this is a repeat-

What's the rationale for people putting in John Stockton? He has a good defensive reputation and is one of the GOAT PGs, but I don't know anything arguing he was a top 5 all-time defender at PG.

I also don't think many of these superstars being listed were the best at defense specifically, they were just better all around by far. Even Piston's beloved Isiah Thomas, was not the greatest individual defender.

Jason Kidd could play good defense, CP3 gets a lot of steals, but I think there have been a lot of role players who were better. I'd have to check the numbers but I think backup PGs such as Lindsey Hunter, Delonte West, and Mike James were better than both of those guys (for Mike James, limited to his time with the Pistons before he became a bit dedicated to chucking). Tony Allen, if he could be counted at PG, for sure.

He has the most steals in NBA history. That's 581 more than #2, Jason Kidd, and 751 more than #3 MJ. Stockton was lowkey a really good defender

Post #49 » by **og15** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:41 pm

Ajohnson85 wrote:Just replace Garnett with Duncan and I agree

First Step wrote:Who are the best defensive players to every play the game at each position?

PG: Gary Payton
SG: Michel Jordan
SF: Scottie Pippen
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Bill Russell

Duncan is already there and Garnett isn't, no need to replace Garnett with Duncan

Just giving you a hard time I know you meant "just put Garnett in place of Duncan" or "just replace Duncan with Garnett".

dkb33 · Post #50 » by **dkb33** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:45 pm

BombsquadSammy wrote:
tundraknight wrote:PG - Steve Nash

SG - James Harden

SF - Adam Morrison

PF -Amare Stoudemire

C - Andrea Bargnani

"Dude, what the hell?!"

- George Gervin

Vice Principals Mask?

vxmike · Post #51 » by **vxmike** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:45 pm

Hindenburg wrote:Surprised to not see Kawhii Leonard on peoples lists

How many DPOYs does Pippen have? In my opinion Kawhii is already better defender than Pippen ever was and he's only 25 years old. Not even in his prime yet. That's just scary.

Kawhi is really good but prime Pippen is the best perimeter defender in NBA history. DPOY awards used to be favored towards big men more which is why Pippen lacks one.

vxmike · Post #52 » by **vxmike** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:02 pm

DuckIII wrote:
NYKBaller wrote:Gary Payton
Tony Allen
Bruce bowen
Dennis rodman
Dikembe mutombo

Granted it's hard when you are only picking 5 guys, but any list that doesn't include Pippen is broke. He's the greatest perimeter defender of all time by an extremely wide margin.

Agree. I would actually put Pippen at PG on an all time defensive team. Bigger longer defenders are best at shutting down PGs. My modern era list post:

Pippen
Jordan
Kawhi
Rodman
Hakeem

vxmike · Post #53 » by **vxmike** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:09 pm

First Step wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:If you're going with an All-time defensive team, it has to start with Hakeem, Pippen and Rodman - those three are a given. I know a lot of people are putting in Russell, but I've never actually seen him play, so I find it difficult to through him on my list personally.

Hakeem, Rodman, Pippen, Jordan, Payton.

What made the Jordan Bulls teams so great especially the teams with the trio of Rodman, Pippen and Jordan was that those three even at the latter stages of their careers, could switch defensively between themselves and hardly lose a beat defensively, and including Harper in the mix. Replace Harper with Payton with was an absolute animal on defense, damn.

And I just think Hakeem was just as much of a freak in terms of athletic ability than Shaq in my opinion. He wasn't the biggest, wasn't the tallest, but he was one of the quickest leapers, had the quickest feet, extremely fast for a big man, and just generally fast and quick overall as there was in a center ever in the game.

I don't see how Rodman is a lock for the list. He wasn't the greatest rim protector to be considered IMO.

Rodman is the best defensive player in NBA history IMO. He guarded Shaq more effectively than anyone (see '96 ECF) and he could switch onto PGs or anyone in between. Enough said.

Guys like CP3 and Stockton are a joke on these lists. Perimeter defense is smarts and aggression combined with devastating athleticism and length.

SkyHookFTW · Post #54 » by **SkyHookFTW** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:16 pm

Any all-defensive team without Bobby Jones is not correct.

Bank Shot · Post #55 » by **Bank Shot** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:39 pm

Payton
Jordan
Pippen
Garnett
Russell

Curmudgeon · Post #56 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:01 pm

Russell and Pippen have to be on it. After that the arguments can start. For example, Sidney Moncrief was a great defender, but I don't see his name mentioned yet. Mutombo is another guy who deserves serious consideration.

Daddy 801 · Post #57 » by **Daddy 801** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:33 pm

Allen

Pippen

Kawhi

AK-47

KG

With the amount of switching I think you need a guy like AK at the four.

Post #58 » by **-Sammy-** » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:26 am

dkb33 wrote:
BombsquadSammy wrote:
tundraknight wrote:PG - Steve Nash

SG - James Harden

SF - Adam Morrison

PF -Amare Stoudemire

C - Andrea Bargnani

"Dude, what the hell?!"

- George Gervin

Vice Principals Mask?

Indeed! I was so tripped-out by that finale, I had to do it.

Pharaoh · Post #59 » by **Pharaoh** » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:37 am

Ben Wallace
Russell
Pistons Rodman
Jordan
Gary Payton

LakersLegacy · Post #60 » by **LakersLegacy** » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:27 am

Allen
Jordan
Kawhi
Big Ben (4)
Hakeem