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IF kawhi leonard leaves SA...Where should he go? How does he get there?
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I'm guessing he'll head to San Diego in the offseason, and he'll get there on a reasonably priced coach flight.
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If the Lakers can put together a nice package (Ingram for example (Brandon )) maybe the Spurs will accept if Leonard really wants out and requests a trade.
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I would trade or wait till next offseason for him if I were Philly.
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If the Lakers can put together a nice package (Ingram for example (Brandon )) maybe the Spurs will accept if Leonard really wants out and requests a trade.
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Utah. He makes them a contender.
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Stoked wrote:Utah. He makes them a contender.
Kawhi on the jazz would be so scary for the rest of the league.
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Stoked wrote:Utah. He makes them a contender.
Fricking Hayward makes Utah a contender this year
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WalterBenjamin wrote:Stoked wrote:Utah. He makes them a contender.
Fricking Hayward makes Utah a contender this year
True but this year worked perfectly for the Jazz. Going forward Leonard fits way better than Hayward.
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Stoked wrote:Utah. He makes them a contender.
Too bad they have nothing to offer the Spurs outside of Mitchell and Gobert.
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I think the Lakers, Celtics and 76ers are the only true buyers in this case. The Spurs have to decide if they like Ingram+Ball/Kuzma or Brown+Sac19 or Fultz+Saric+10# the most. I think the 76ers have the best shot for Kawhi. If he is willing to resign with the Celtics or 76ers is a completely different question, but after this abomination of a season I would be careful.
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traax wrote:I think the Lakers, Celtics and 76ers are the only true buyers in this case. The Spurs have to decide if they like Ingram+Ball/Kuzma or Brown+Sac19 or Fultz+Saric+10# the most. I think the 76ers have the best shot for Kawhi. If he is willing to resign with the Celtics or 76ers is a completely different question, but after this abomination of a season I would be careful.
Agreed, but you're tripping major balls if you think you're getting Kawhi **** Leonard without giving up Jayson Tatum.
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Honestly, if he wants to win a ring and make max money his best option is to go to the East and join the Sixers or the Raptors.
Sixers have enough cap space and Raptors could do a sign and trade that includes Valanciunas and one of their good young players.
Imagine a team with Simmons, Kawai and Embiid surrounded by shooters...that would be an elite offensive/defensive team...or the Raptors with Lowry, Derozan, Kawai, Ibaka and their very strong bench. That could be the missing piece to defeat Lebron.
Sixers have enough cap space and Raptors could do a sign and trade that includes Valanciunas and one of their good young players.
Imagine a team with Simmons, Kawai and Embiid surrounded by shooters...that would be an elite offensive/defensive team...or the Raptors with Lowry, Derozan, Kawai, Ibaka and their very strong bench. That could be the missing piece to defeat Lebron.
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well one thing is clear, is if he really wants out he clearly does not care about winning. He basically is turning his back on a contender. Its clear that this may one of the few stars that actually wants the money with endorsements.
However, I think this is all a ploy by his team to make sure SAS offers him the supermax this summer.
However, I think this is all a ploy by his team to make sure SAS offers him the supermax this summer.
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clyde21 wrote:traax wrote:I think the Lakers, Celtics and 76ers are the only true buyers in this case. The Spurs have to decide if they like Ingram+Ball/Kuzma or Brown+Sac19 or Fultz+Saric+10# the most. I think the 76ers have the best shot for Kawhi. If he is willing to resign with the Celtics or 76ers is a completely different question, but after this abomination of a season I would be careful.
Agreed, but you're tripping major balls if you think you're getting Kawhi **** Leonard without giving up Jayson Tatum.
You know, several month ago when this topic came up first, I was willing to give up Brown+Tatum+Sac19. But I am really concerned not just about Kawhis injury state, but also about his determination. I am not willing to give up the Celtics future on probably a one year rent of Kawhi. In this case, all of our franchise players would come back from major injuries, Kyrie may even miss the whole next season with his knee infection and who knows if Gordon is can be the player he was before his injury? Its just too much risk.
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traax wrote:clyde21 wrote:traax wrote:I think the Lakers, Celtics and 76ers are the only true buyers in this case. The Spurs have to decide if they like Ingram+Ball/Kuzma or Brown+Sac19 or Fultz+Saric+10# the most. I think the 76ers have the best shot for Kawhi. If he is willing to resign with the Celtics or 76ers is a completely different question, but after this abomination of a season I would be careful.
Agreed, but you're tripping major balls if you think you're getting Kawhi **** Leonard without giving up Jayson Tatum.
You know, several month ago when this topic came up first, I was willing to give up Brown+Tatum+Sac19. But I am really concerned not just about Kawhis injury state, but also about his determination. I am not willing to give up the Celtics future on probably a one year rent of Kawhi. In this case, all of our franchise players would come back from major injuries, Kyrie may even miss the whole next season with his knee infection and who knows if Gordon is can be the player he was before his injury? Its just too much risk.
If you're not willing to give up Tatum you're not getting Leonard. It's as simple as that. You're not getting a top 5 player in the league in the midst of his prime for Brown+Kings pick. You're not close at all.
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I actually don't think he'd be a good fit in Utah at all. They run a read-and-react offense with a ton of PnR, whereas Kawhi is not a good passer and prefers long, drawn-out isos from the extended elbow or wing.
He'd take the ball out Mitchell's hands and really reduce the offensive effectiveness of guys like Rubio & Ingles imo. They'd have to completely re-design their offense to accommodate him.
I think if he does demand out the Spurs probably trade him to somewhere like the Knicks, which is the big market he is apparently looking for, for Porzingis and a pick. They aren't going to want to reward a guy for bailing on his team for an entire season and then demanding a trade. They will trade him to a non-contender, preferably out of the conference, and if he doesn't agree to that, they will make him play out his contract with no future guarantees, which would be extremely risky for someone like him coming off missing an entire season due to a chronic condition. I think they'd call his bluff before letting him negotiate his own trade.
Just my thoughts on it, but I think Boston or Toronto or similar destinations are very unlikely.
I actually think the drama is all overblown though, that he is actually hurt (or at least experiencing chronic pain), and that he will sign an extension for less than the full supermax this offseason (something like 4 years, $160 million; or basically slightly more than whatever Durant gets if Durant signs a max contract).
He'd take the ball out Mitchell's hands and really reduce the offensive effectiveness of guys like Rubio & Ingles imo. They'd have to completely re-design their offense to accommodate him.
I think if he does demand out the Spurs probably trade him to somewhere like the Knicks, which is the big market he is apparently looking for, for Porzingis and a pick. They aren't going to want to reward a guy for bailing on his team for an entire season and then demanding a trade. They will trade him to a non-contender, preferably out of the conference, and if he doesn't agree to that, they will make him play out his contract with no future guarantees, which would be extremely risky for someone like him coming off missing an entire season due to a chronic condition. I think they'd call his bluff before letting him negotiate his own trade.
Just my thoughts on it, but I think Boston or Toronto or similar destinations are very unlikely.
I actually think the drama is all overblown though, that he is actually hurt (or at least experiencing chronic pain), and that he will sign an extension for less than the full supermax this offseason (something like 4 years, $160 million; or basically slightly more than whatever Durant gets if Durant signs a max contract).
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clyde21 wrote:traax wrote:clyde21 wrote:
Agreed, but you're tripping major balls if you think you're getting Kawhi **** Leonard without giving up Jayson Tatum.
You know, several month ago when this topic came up first, I was willing to give up Brown+Tatum+Sac19. But I am really concerned not just about Kawhis injury state, but also about his determination. I am not willing to give up the Celtics future on probably a one year rent of Kawhi. In this case, all of our franchise players would come back from major injuries, Kyrie may even miss the whole next season with his knee infection and who knows if Gordon is can be the player he was before his injury? Its just too much risk.
If you're not willing to give up Tatum you're not getting Leonard. It's as simple as that. You're not getting a top 5 player in the league in the midst of his prime for Brown+Kings pick. You're not close at all.
Well, if this is true, I would politely back up. I am not willing to give up the whole future for a player who recovers from a maybe career altering injury and who has only one year left on his contract. Especially with Kawhis connection, or his camps connection to Los Angeles. I think the Celtics are not willing to beat a offer from Philly with Fultz+Saric+10' anyway.
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Milwaukee ofc.
Leonard for middleton, parker and some picks.
Leonard for middleton, parker and some picks.