Shai Gilgeous-Alexander showing improved pull up shot

[Curmudgeon]

S G-A is going to be really, really good and he should be starting. If Rivers doesn't give him 30+ mpg, Rivers ought to be fired. If fact, I have no idea why Rivers is still coaching the Clippers after his complete botch of things. Giving that big contract to his son was just horrible.

Steve Ballmer was smart enough to hire Jerry West. I'm not sure why he isn't smart enough to fire Rivers.

[Capn'O]

If he's a threat to pull up that makes him so dangerous. Like Stockton (see what I did there ) SGA knows the art of slithering to the rim to get more easy looks than you'd think he could with his athleticism. So much deception and change of speed. There hasn't been a level where they could stop him from doing that yet.

Realistically, how many minutes per game is he gonna get?

There's some noise that he could start either immediately or early.

He reminds me of Andre Miller in the sense where... he's supposed to be slowish... yet he can get by the defender at will without much problem. James Harden is the king of this, where his speed isn't all that great, but his ability to DECELERATE, change direction or slither through people is next level.

I would LOVE if he could just become a poor man's Gary Payton. Something like 18/7/5/2.5 spg and ability to guard 1-3 would be awesome for his prime. This year maybe something like 12/5/4/1.5 or something (assuming big enough minutes). I can't get a read on his upside though, who knows. I can't help but feel it might be underestimated. Most feel he has a high floor, low ceiling. I'm not so sure his ceiling is particularly low.

Yeah, Miller is the comp he usually gets. It's so hard to call a player like that because even when you feel like "ok, this guy is gonna continue to get by people at will" it's so hard to call it with his first step speed. Also, players with that sneak blowby are usually not tall and lean. If there's a prototype for him, I'm not finding it.

[madmaxmedia]

Those double last name guys just don't pan out. Carter-Williams, Kidd-Gilchrist, Caldwell-Pope, Cauley-Stein etc.
I don't remember one star with double last name.

MKG and WCS added their second last name themselves. MKG was originally Michael Gilchrist, WCS was originally Willie Cauley.

I hope this is facetious.

Spoiler:

Abdul-Jabbar

Not his original name though. There's only one All-Star that was born with an hyphenated name, Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

Those muslim names don't count in my book. I'm talking about strictly american. For reason those guys don't do too great.

Maybe all those letters on the back of their jersey slow them down

[niQ]

How good is his defense? Any time I think of SGA I also think of Delon Wright who has some seriously incredible defensive instincts and anticipation for a guard.

Not 100% sure but is that Delon Wright guarding him at the 0:01 to 0:03 mark?

[r0drig0lac]

he, Trae and Knox are the best players in the draft imo

[Goner]

Those muslim names don't count in my book. I'm talking about strictly american. For reason those guys don't do too great.

This is the strangest application of logic I've ever encountered. It's like saying that Coke tastes better than Pepsi not because of its taste, but because soft drinks that start with 'C' tend to be better than soft drinks that start with 'P'.

Maybe what you are noticing is a result of NBA players with hyphenated names being a small subset of the total and therefore less likely, through sheer volume, to become stars? I could just as easily say "players with the last name "Tskishvili" tend not to pan out."

[OkcSinceSGA]

If he's a threat to pull up that makes him so dangerous. Like Stockton (see what I did there ) SGA knows the art of slithering to the rim to get more easy looks than you'd think he could with his athleticism. So much deception and change of speed. There hasn't been a level where they could stop him from doing that yet.



There's some noise that he could start either immediately or early.

He reminds me of Andre Miller in the sense where... he's supposed to be slowish... yet he can get by the defender at will without much problem. James Harden is the king of this, where his speed isn't all that great, but his ability to DECELERATE, change direction or slither through people is next level.

I would LOVE if he could just become a poor man's Gary Payton. Something like 18/7/5/2.5 spg and ability to guard 1-3 would be awesome for his prime. This year maybe something like 12/5/4/1.5 or something (assuming big enough minutes). I can't get a read on his upside though, who knows. I can't help but feel it might be underestimated. Most feel he has a high floor, low ceiling. I'm not so sure his ceiling is particularly low.

Yeah, Miller is the comp he usually gets. It's so hard to call a player like that because even when you feel like "ok, this guy is gonna continue to get by people at will" it's so hard to call it with his first step speed. Also, players with that sneak blowby are usually not tall and lean. If there's a prototype for him, I'm not finding it.

I hope he grows another inch taller to 6'7, gains some weight. That 7 foot wingspan, big/quick hands is gonna cause problems. On offense he's gonna be the KD of PG's where he can simply pull up and shoot over every PG without any issue due to that size. I hope he's working on the pull up+shot off screens.

[NoZoLakers]

stated in "draft forums" that Cha would regret that trade and its certainly turning out that way early, SGA looks good while Bridges shooting weakness is already showing up. They had walker but walker is not really PG, just a small combo guard, SGA would've worked next to Walker as the bigger combo guard. Cha didn't need the 2nd pick considering they ended up getting like 6 more or so since all those wheeling/dealing nor did they need Bridges, already have questionnable shooting forwards.

[og15]

If he's a threat to pull up that makes him so dangerous. Like Stockton (see what I did there ) SGA knows the art of slithering to the rim to get more easy looks than you'd think he could with his athleticism. So much deception and change of speed. There hasn't been a level where they could stop him from doing that yet.

Realistically, how many minutes per game is he gonna get?

There's some noise that he could start either immediately or early.

He reminds me of Andre Miller in the sense where... he's supposed to be slowish... yet he can get by the defender at will without much problem. James Harden is the king of this, where his speed isn't all that great, but his ability to DECELERATE, change direction or slither through people is next level.

I would LOVE if he could just become a poor man's Gary Payton. Something like 18/7/5/2.5 spg and ability to guard 1-3 would be awesome for his prime. This year maybe something like 12/5/4/1.5 or something (assuming big enough minutes). I can't get a read on his upside though, who knows. I can't help but feel it might be underestimated. Most feel he has a high floor, low ceiling. I'm not so sure his ceiling is particularly low.

I like the Dre comp in terms of getting where he wants, but the Harden one though, not so much. Harden's first step is ridiculously fast, he doesn't play a speed / athleticism style where he's going full speed so much, but he is very athletic, sort of like Brandon Roy. They use their skill to beat you, but the athleticism is always showing through more subtly, or here and there in an explosive manner.

Dre Miller though was actually just not that athletic for the NBA level at PG, but he knew how to get where he wanted to, and his lateral was good.

[OkcSinceSGA]

If he's a threat to pull up that makes him so dangerous. Like Stockton (see what I did there ) SGA knows the art of slithering to the rim to get more easy looks than you'd think he could with his athleticism. So much deception and change of speed. There hasn't been a level where they could stop him from doing that yet.



There's some noise that he could start either immediately or early.

He reminds me of Andre Miller in the sense where... he's supposed to be slowish... yet he can get by the defender at will without much problem. James Harden is the king of this, where his speed isn't all that great, but his ability to DECELERATE, change direction or slither through people is next level.

I would LOVE if he could just become a poor man's Gary Payton. Something like 18/7/5/2.5 spg and ability to guard 1-3 would be awesome for his prime. This year maybe something like 12/5/4/1.5 or something (assuming big enough minutes). I can't get a read on his upside though, who knows. I can't help but feel it might be underestimated. Most feel he has a high floor, low ceiling. I'm not so sure his ceiling is particularly low.

I like the Dre comp in terms of getting where he wants, but the Harden one though, not so much. Harden's first step is ridiculously fast, he doesn't play a speed / athleticism style where he's going full speed so much, but he is very athletic, sort of like Brandon Roy. They use their skill to beat you, but the athleticism is always showing through more subtly, or here and there in an explosive manner.

Dre Miller though was actually just not that athletic for the NBA level at PG, but he knew how to get where he wanted to, and his lateral was good.

Harden has an amazing first step, but in terms of overall speed/quickness he's not particularly fast compared to his peers. I feel like when he's driving his shiftiness, change of direction and fluid body movements are way more important than the initial first step. Although I'm not comparing SGA athletically, just explaining one attribute.

[Pass_the_rock]

MKG and WCS added their second last name themselves. MKG was originally Michael Gilchrist, WCS was originally Willie Cauley.



Not his original name though. There's only one All-Star that was born with an hyphenated name, Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

Those muslim names don't count in my book. I'm talking about strictly american. For reason those guys don't do too great.

I guess it's a good thing shai isnt American then.

What? What is he? Canadian? and with dual last name, that's a bust sentence right there.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Those muslim names don't count in my book. I'm talking about strictly american. For reason those guys don't do too great.

This is the strangest application of logic I've ever encountered. It's like saying that Coke tastes better than Pepsi not because of its taste, but because soft drinks that start with 'C' tend to be better than soft drinks that start with 'P'.

Maybe what you are noticing is a result of NBA players with hyphenated names being a small subset of the total and therefore less likely, through sheer volume, to become stars? I could just as easily say "players with the last name "Tskishvili" tend not to pan out."

Lmao

[NO-KG-AI]

I hate offseason hype threads.

[ratul]

Like his game and he's Canadian so definitely rooting for him

[OkcSinceSGA]

New video of him balling out at the same place. PS... these are ONLY NBA players and it's by invite only. The pickup footage you guys may of seen with CP3+Harden vs Wade was a few hours after in this same gym. You'll notice many of the same players. This Swishcultures guy has been watching all of the runs and seems to think the Clippers have a legit star. Excited for the season!

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[JellosJigglin]

He seems to have a long neck.

[OkcSinceSGA]

https://www.instagram.com/chrisjohnsonhoops/?hl=en

He may have videos of your favorite young player here. I guess he's an NBA trainer hosting these pickup games. Melo+CP3 are here too. So is D Wade, Noah, Taj Gibson, Boban, WCS and many more. Bunch of vets mixed with rookies and 2nd year players. Iman Shumpert and Corey Brewer even showed out lol.

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[OkcSinceSGA]

He seems to have a long neck.

He somehow looks like he LOST weight since last month. Kid needs 15 lbs of muscle bad. He needs the Giannis diet.

[Saints14]

Idk man, I'm all for guys shorts going back above their knees but that's a little much

[-Spyda-]

Good luck to him