What is a TRAVEL in the NBA?

[Lockdown504090]

Gather, one, two shot. Legal. Way they call travel has changed. Get over it already.

In my mind, the bigger problem is a failure to teach fans the rule change.
It's not even an NBA thing. FIBA added "step zero" around the same time the NBA clarified gather step rules. I remember refs explaining it to team captains at the start of the season even in recreational basketball leagues.

There are still plenty of travels that refs miss, but it's rarely egregious as fans think when they're counting steps during the gather.

Idk how they have all these guys that played. They have redick who used the move for years on his 3s curling to his right, and they don’t have these guys explaining the move on tv. Get James harden on at halftime to teach the move. He will have plenty of time after the first round is over

[Myth]

The biggest change in how it is called has to do with the gather. If you dribble, it seems you can take multiple steps and then they won’t count the 2 steps until after the ball is grabbed with both hands. So you can go dribble, step step step grab the ball step step jump and the refs won’t call it. They also seemed to have changed when they allow the gather. It used to be that if you touched the ball with both hands and one foot was in contact with the ground, you only have 1 step left, so it was wise to do more traditional jump stops with the gather being clearly with both feet off the ground. Now, they seem to ignore if one foot is on the ground and players are starting to time their gather when a foot is making contact with the ground, then can make 2 full steps after, which allows for more control and further distance traveled after the gather.

[Roy T]

Travel, palming and flopping are like whatever the referees decide it to be, depending on which team they bet I guess.

[perempe20]

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One of the worst travels in NBA history after 1:40.

[vagelis]

The problem is not that the gather step has to be stopped as a rule.
You can do as many steps as you want before gathering the ball and then you have only 2 steps allowed. I find it very rational and I used this when I was playing.

The problem is that players do 4 steps after gathering the ball.
Gathering the ball should be named even if you catch the ball with one hand not only with 2 hands.

[deepeeenn]

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One of the worst travels in NBA history after 1:40.

Are you talking about Derrick Jones after Luka’s behind the back pass? Where he gets stripped by Booker in the paint and regathers it before spinning and kicking it back out to Williams? Doris says it’s a travel but it’s not. It got swiped down out of his hands by Booker, loose ball, and he can grab it again. He lands with the ball and spins off the right foot before passing. No travel

[Whole Truth]

Short answer;

Depends who you are.

And that is the problem.

All that star power must have temporarily blinded the official.

To put some perspective to the impact of that non call. It's a potential 6pt swing. Tell me about how many FT's they had at the end of the game.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Traveling, Double Dribble, and Carrying no longer exist in the "toughest" league on the planet. It is pretty clear of that...no changing now, unfortunately.

[Jamaaliver]

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[Lockdown504090]

The problem is not that the gather step has to be stopped as a rule.
You can do as many steps as you want before gathering the ball and then you have only 2 steps allowed. I find it very rational and I used this when I was playing.

The problem is that players do 4 steps after gathering the ball.
Gathering the ball should be named even if you catch the ball with one hand not only with 2 hands.

It’s when the dribble is ending so when the hand turns under the ball, because they technically can’t dribble again. To do what you suggest doesn’t make sense because the player can continue to dribble. Paul George can keep the ball on the side of his hand for a very long time, then keep dribbling for example

[fansse]

NBA is the only professional league where they stopped calling the rules.. and the worst part is that the new generation of players are now doing the same thing.

[lambchop]

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isn't that just the gather step though? The ball was still spinning in his hand while he walked, then he brings in his left and takes two more steps. But yea it definitely shows how this stuff impacts stats. PGs weren't able to do that stuff years ago

[Jamaaliver]

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[RichieBuckets]

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I was watching this live and wondered why no one, commentators, players, refs!, made a big deal about it. Felt like I was taking crazy pills!

[Johnny Bball]

The majority of travel calls are shuffling the feet before the ball is put on the floor. 2nd most is shuffling the feet before going up in the paint. The rest of it is a joke.

[Mephariel]

Where are people seeing travel in these plays? Most of the plays are just gather, 1, 2.

[theforumblue]

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isn't that just the gather step though? The ball was still spinning in his hand while he walked, then he brings in his left and takes two more steps. But yea it definitely shows how this stuff impacts stats. PGs weren't able to do that stuff years ago

this one looks peculiar in part because of the jumping off and landing on the same feet then taking another step. basically a one legged hop with the ball. that's like jumping on pivot.

if you still have "dribble", then obviously you can hop or do whatever. once you've "gathered", you shouldn't be able to do that. i think.

[Loneshot]

Bane didn't travel. Pretty clear gather and two legal steps.

[Saints14]

I kinda don't care if some of these are "technically legal", right now traveling in the NBA has the same problem as catches in the NFL where for a normal viewer you know it when you see it, but overly technical rules lead to confusing calls or no calls. I'd prefer them to err on the side of being stringent to be honest

[prophet_of_rage]

Read the rules on the gather step.