NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 4: MVP Thread's Revenge)

jokeboy86 · Post #1801 » by **jokeboy86** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:30 am

Think its pretty simple now. If OKC gets the 1 seed, I truly believe they’ll give it to SGA. If Denver gets it they’ll give it to Jokic. If neither get the 1 seed I think they’ll probably give it to Jokic. With Murray essentially being load managed now until the playoffs that could help Jokic’s stats but I wonder does this all but mean Denver could care less about the 1 seed.

Jurassic_Park · Post #1802 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:38 am

AleksandarN wrote:When is the new straw poll coming out? Curious what the results be

Why would there be another poll with only 8 games left? Do they always do one this late?

Jurassic_Park · Post #1803 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:41 am

Special_Puppy wrote:I think the race might be more competitive than the betting markets indicate with SGA+Luka+Giannis all still being in the hunt

giannis has absolutely no chance. I mean 0. Luka, a long shot but if somehow den and okc lose 5 of next 8 and dal keeps winning he can maybe steal it, otherwise no.

Special_Puppy · Post #1804 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:00 am

Jokic has been awful tonight

AleksandarN · Post #1805 » by **AleksandarN** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:14 am

Read on Twitter

AleksandarN · Post #1806 » by **AleksandarN** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:17 am

Special_Puppy wrote:Jokic has been awful tonight

4 for 12 is terrible

AleksandarN · Post #1807 » by **AleksandarN** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:31 am

They need to rest Jokic

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Wolfgang630 · Post #1808 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:43 am

Joker limping to the finish line. Idk if he’s the mvp anymore

Special_Puppy · Post #1809 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:45 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:Joker limping to the finish line. Idk if he’s the mvp anymore

Yeah he's certainly endangering it with two losses in a row. Nuggets could easily be the 3rd seed now

GSP · Post #1810 » by **GSP** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:47 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Joker limping to the finish line. Idk if he’s the mvp anymore

Yeah he's certainly endangering it with two losses in a row. Nuggets could easily be the 3rd seed now

Mavs not far from the 4 seed................if theres only 1 seed separating Jokic and Luka you could easily say Luka should be Mvp

Post #1811 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:47 am

SGA has been out, Jokic has been the best player all year. I think even though we all have terrible recency bias voters won’t be as bad.

Imo Mavs need to end up a top 4 seed for Luka to have a shot.

Special_Puppy · Post #1812 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:54 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:SGA has been out, Jokic has been the best player all year. I think even though we all have terrible recency bias voters won’t be as bad.

Imo Mavs need to end up a top 4 seed for Luka to have a shot.

I think the Mavs have to at least be within 5 games of the Nuggets and Thunder

Woodsanity · Post #1813 » by **Woodsanity** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:55 am

Like I said before Thunder are stacked even without SGA, Nuggets 2nd best player keeps missing games.

Post #1814 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:59 am

Woodsanity wrote:Like I said before Thunder are stacked even without SGA, Nuggets 2nd best player keeps missing games.

I’m pretty sure if you take SGA out the Thunder are the youngest team in the league. Really more of a reason Mark deserves COTY imo.

Special_Puppy · Post #1815 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:13 am

Woodsanity wrote:Like I said before Thunder are stacked even without SGA, Nuggets 2nd best player keeps missing games.

In fairness, the Nuggets and Thunder have been very lucky with injuries this year relative to other teams. Murray is basically the only starter who has missed any significant time

Yuri36 · Post #1816 » by **Yuri36** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:21 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:SGA has been out, Jokic has been the best player all year. I think even though we all have terrible recency bias voters won’t be as bad.

Imo Mavs need to end up a top 4 seed for Luka to have a shot.

I think the Mavs have to at least be within 5 games of the Nuggets and Thunder

Nah they don't, especially with the injuries Mavs have suffered during the season + the quality of roster they had before the trades comparing to OKC and Denver

Yuri36 · Post #1817 » by **Yuri36** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:01 am

So OKC destroying Suns without SGA....not so great for his MVP credentials then.

Black star · Post #1818 » by **Black star** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:01 am

Jokic is my pick for MVP and I don't think anything short of the Nuggets losing basically every game down the stretch will change that. He's been incredible all season and hasn't missed a significant number of games. I do think SGA is right behind him and if OKC had been able to create a little more separation in the standings that SGA would have gotten it.

If both the Nuggets and the Thunder falter down the stretch then Luka has a shot but that feels like a very long shot. The year Dallas can figure out a team around Luka that can stay in the top 3 is the year he wins MVP.

Ambrose · Post #1819 » by **Ambrose** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:02 am

This is the classic dumb overthinking that happens at the end of every year. It's still comfortably Jokic.

Yuri36 · Post #1820 » by **Yuri36** » Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:06 am

Black star wrote:Jokic is my pick for MVP and I don't think anything short of the Nuggets losing basically every game down the stretch will change that. He's been incredible all season and hasn't missed a significant number of games. I do think SGA is right behind him and if OKC had been able to create a little more separation in the standings that SGA would have gotten it.

If both the Nuggets and the Thunder falter down the stretch then Luka has a shot but that feels like a very long shot. The year Dallas can figure out a team around Luka that can stay in the top 3 is the year he wins MVP.

Well, MVP is not about the most wins, it's about being the most valuable player to their team.
And going by what you're saying, you're actually enforcing Luka's MVP case

Who is leading the race for MVP? (players listed in alphabetical order)