We Done With This 90’s Hating

[mysticOscar]

A lot of era ignorance is sparked by the likes of Barkley, Reggie Miller, kenny smith on tv every night thinking old games still only exist on VHS tapes or some dusty film archive.

No, these guys weren't some gladiators getting their fingers torn open on every layup. The softening of the league actually strarted well within their era. Watch the full MJ 63 point game against the Celtics, you wouldn't see a worse instance of star officiating or even just a softer reffed playoff game. Then No, the Bad boy pistons weren't the norm for the average team.There's a reason they all cried to freeze Isiah from the olympics to spite him. Fans from back then would actually be bemused to find out they would one day be romanticised. No one else played that way because no one else had Isiah and Laimbeer. Also don't know how modern fans can claim to love Laimbeer then turn around and scream for Draymond Green to be kicked out of the league. Maked me wonder if teens in 2065 are going to be romanticising Draymond's green antics as an era for real men.

Superstar calls, relaxation of travelling rules and taunts was started by Stern himseld after MJ made him realise marketing star wings was more appealing to casuals than slow lumbering bigs attempting baby hooks all game. Then there are the techs, today is way stricter but people make it seem like players were allowed to spit on each other every other for jokes. Mutombo for example got a lot of techs and fines for his signature finger wag but when I go to the commetn section of these highlights there are people talking about how he would have gotten a tech in today's game. Like Bruh, he did get a teched and fined. Even MJ got teched on the legendary revenge finger wag at Mutombo.

It was Stern not Silver that started making the game more finesse and it came as early as the late 80s and 90s.

Yes the league has been pushing for a certain playstyle for a long time....just to make the game more relatable for fans (most under 7ft) and also less stoppages t make it more exciting to watch.

Old fans do generally look down on newer generations...that's always been the case.

But to be honest, this voice has been a lot louder for somewhat valid reasons due to the massive change in playstylr (less post physicality and laxing of fundamental rules I.e. travels and dribbling) in recent years.

But the league had to make the changes because if they didn't do anything thr NBA was dying.

Just wish everyone can appreciate all the eras without the need to knock down current or older generations

[OhayoKD]

Your talking rubbish. Majority of players in the 80s didn't take the 3pt shot seriously.

To use MJ seasons where he hardly shot the 3pt line as a basis to gauge where he was on the 3pt spectrum in a league where average 3pa was at 5 3pa per team is just not using common sense

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

You have to be trolling right? MJs 3pt effeciency goes up in seasons he takes more volume.

Please stop responding if you are just going to troll

You can't base people's effeciency on less than 1 3pt a game seasons. The sample size is too small and is made up of just a high % of bail out shots

It went up when the line was shortened and collapsed the second the line was pushed back, If you think Jordan's effiency is going to improve from his shots actually getting defended on 3 times the attempts, you are delusional

[mysticOscar]

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

You have to be trolling right? MJs 3pt effeciency goes up in seasons he takes more volume.

Please stop responding if you are just going to troll

You can't base people's effeciency on less than 1 3pt a game seasons. The sample size is too small and is made up of just a high % of bail out shots

It went up when the line was shortened and collapsed the second the line was pushed back, If you think Jordan's effiency is going to improve from his shots actually getting defended on 3 times the attempts, you are delusional

No, MJs effeciency is correlated more to the volume he takes. Any regular and playoff seasons he takes 2 or more attempts a game he averages decent 3pt effeciency

Whatever biasis you have against MJ don't twist reality to suit your narrative

[70sFan]

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

Common sense is that when you take less than one three per game, then it means that the majority of your threes come from heaves and last second desperation shots, as it means that you don't attempt normal threes.

Common sense is also that when you see Jordan numbers, you see that he could shoot threes:

1985-89 Jordan: 22% on 0.8 3FGA
1990-93 Jordan: 34% on 2.1 3FGA

[jkvonny]

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

You have to be trolling right? MJs 3pt effeciency goes up in seasons he takes more volume.

Please stop responding if you are just going to troll

You can't base people's effeciency on less than 1 3pt a game seasons. The sample size is too small and is made up of just a high % of bail out shots

It went up when the line was shortened and collapsed the second the line was pushed back, If you think Jordan's effiency is going to improve from his shots actually getting defended on 3 times the attempts, you are delusional

Unless you were Dale Ellis, Reggie Miller, Craig Hodges, Glenn Rice, Vernon Maxwell, Dan Majerle, Mark Price, Chuck Person, Danny Ainge, Dennis Scott, Darrell Griffith, Larry Bird, Dell Curry, John Starks, Wesley Person, BJ Armstrong, etc ....there weren't many players chucking up 3s in the NBA on a regular basis back in the '80s & '90s.

lol

[tsherkin]

What’s up with this generation of youngsters absolutely hating on any and every generation that came before them?

You mean like every other generation does, backward and forward?

Every generation likes to protect its own. Nostalgia is king.

[the sea duck]

those '10s and '20s players were just a bunch of video game streamers and podcasters. no chance could they hold up in the modern 2040s era.

[OhayoKD]

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

Common sense is that when you take less than one three per game, then it means that the majority of your threes come from heaves and last second desperation shots, as it means that you don't attempt normal threes.

Common sense is also that when you see Jordan numbers, you see that he could shoot threes:

1985-89 Jordan: 22% on 0.8 3FGA
1990-93 Jordan: 34% on 2.1 3FGA

Squared specifically tracked non-heave 3's. He was still below average in efficiency for his own career in his own era with no one guarding them. Every guard worth their salt can shoot 3's now, but Jordan was not an elite 3-point shooter for his own era when the bar was much lower and shots were far less contested, so it's silly to assume he'd be one now. You can't even make the "look at his shooting form" argument one might want to make for bird.

But hey

Lebron is a 41% shooter when he takes at least 7 or 8 threes in a game. 39% when taking at least 6 threes in a game.

Obviously Lebron’s problem is he does not shoot enough!

Propping old players with nonsense fanfictions is getting old

[tsherkin]

Common sense is that effeciency drops down with volume. Also common sense is that effeciency drops with defensive attention.

But common sense goes out the window when it's time to glaze MJ i guess

Common sense is that when you take less than one three per game, then it means that the majority of your threes come from heaves and last second desperation shots, as it means that you don't attempt normal threes.

Common sense is also that when you see Jordan numbers, you see that he could shoot threes:

1985-89 Jordan: 22% on 0.8 3FGA
1990-93 Jordan: 34% on 2.1 3FGA

Squared specifically tracked non-heave 3's. He was still below average in efficiency for his own career in his own era with no one guarding them. Every guard worth their salt can shoot 3's now, but Jordan was not an elite 3-point shooter for his own era when the bar was much lower and shots were far less contested, so it's silly to assume he'd be one now. You can't even make the "look at his shooting form" argument one might want to make for bird.

But hey

Lebron is a 41% shooter when he takes at least 7 or 8 threes in a game. 39% when taking at least 6 threes in a game.

Obviously Lebron’s problem is he does not shoot enough!

Propping old players with nonsense fanfictions is getting old

There is something to the actual seasons where he shot a reasonable volume at the normal range and shot just fine. He clearly COULD shoot the 3 at a respectable clip, regardless of how you evaluate his low-volume seasons. Not that he was comparable in talent, but over his first couple seasons on low volume, you'd think Bird couldnt shoot it either using similar analysis.

[70sFan]

Squared specifically tracked non-heave 3's. He was still below average in efficiency for his own career in his own era with no one guarding them. Every guard worth their salt can shoot 3's now, but Jordan was not an elite 3-point shooter for his own era when the bar was much lower and shots were far less contested, so it's silly to assume he'd be one now. You can't even make the "look at his shooting form" argument one might want to make for bird.

You are still arguing in a bad faith and you didn't address my response. You said that it's common sense that increased volume makes players less efficient, but I proved that Jordan was more efficient when he took more shots.

It's obvious to anyone that watched more than a few selected games and highlight videos from the 1980s that even good shooters didn't even try to shoot threes and it wasn't because lack of ability.

You also shifted the narrative from "Jordan couldn't shoot" to "Jordan wasn't elite three point shooter" because you know you are wrong. Nobody here tries to force the narrative that Jordan would be Curry equivalent from 3 point line today, but you try to judge Jordan shooting ability from seasons when he took 50 threes per season, even though we have much bigger sample from the early 1990s showing that he could make them at respectable level.

Propping old players with nonsense fanfictions is getting old

Your horrible attempts to force anti-Jordan narrative at all cost is also getting old.

[Hair Jordan]

A lot of era ignorance is sparked by the likes of Barkley, Reggie Miller, kenny smith on tv every night thinking old games still only exist on VHS tapes or some dusty film archive.

No, these guys weren't some gladiators getting their fingers torn open on every layup. The softening of the league actually strarted well within their era. Watch the full MJ 63 point game against the Celtics, you wouldn't see a worse instance of star officiating or even just a softer reffed playoff game. Then No, the Bad boy pistons weren't the norm for the average team.There's a reason they all cried to freeze Isiah from the olympics to spite him. Fans from back then would actually be bemused to find out they would one day be romanticised. No one else played that way because no one else had Isiah and Laimbeer. Also don't know how modern fans can claim to love Laimbeer then turn around and scream for Draymond Green to be kicked out of the league. Maked me wonder if teens in 2065 are going to be romanticising Draymond's green antics as an era for real men.

Superstar calls, relaxation of travelling rules and taunts was started by Stern himseld after MJ made him realise marketing star wings was more appealing to casuals than slow lumbering bigs attempting baby hooks all game. Then there are the techs, today is way stricter but people make it seem like players were allowed to spit on each other every other for jokes. Mutombo for example got a lot of techs and fines for his signature finger wag but when I go to the commetn section of these highlights there are people talking about how he would have gotten a tech in today's game. Like Bruh, he did get a teched and fined. Even MJ got teched on the legendary revenge finger wag at Mutombo.

It was Stern not Silver that started making the game more finesse and it came as early as the late 80s and 90s.

Total revisionist history. Go back and watch game 2 of the ‘91 Finals. They called three quick fouls on Jordan in a home Finals game. Star players nowadays don’t get three fouls called in them in a month.

[donnieme]

A lot of era ignorance is sparked by the likes of Barkley, Reggie Miller, kenny smith on tv every night thinking old games still only exist on VHS tapes or some dusty film archive.

No, these guys weren't some gladiators getting their fingers torn open on every layup. The softening of the league actually strarted well within their era. Watch the full MJ 63 point game against the Celtics, you wouldn't see a worse instance of star officiating or even just a softer reffed playoff game. Then No, the Bad boy pistons weren't the norm for the average team.There's a reason they all cried to freeze Isiah from the olympics to spite him. Fans from back then would actually be bemused to find out they would one day be romanticised. No one else played that way because no one else had Isiah and Laimbeer. Also don't know how modern fans can claim to love Laimbeer then turn around and scream for Draymond Green to be kicked out of the league. Maked me wonder if teens in 2065 are going to be romanticising Draymond's green antics as an era for real men.

Superstar calls, relaxation of travelling rules and taunts was started by Stern himseld after MJ made him realise marketing star wings was more appealing to casuals than slow lumbering bigs attempting baby hooks all game. Then there are the techs, today is way stricter but people make it seem like players were allowed to spit on each other every other for jokes. Mutombo for example got a lot of techs and fines for his signature finger wag but when I go to the commetn section of these highlights there are people talking about how he would have gotten a tech in today's game. Like Bruh, he did get a teched and fined. Even MJ got teched on the legendary revenge finger wag at Mutombo.

It was Stern not Silver that started making the game more finesse and it came as early as the late 80s and 90s.

Total revisionist history. Go back and watch game 2 of the ‘91 Finals. They called three quick fouls on Jordan in a home Finals game. Star players nowadays don’t get three fouls called in them in a month.

I didn't say it's worse or better than today, but rather that it existed, maybe even started in their time period. Magic said it best: "Don't get too close to Michael or it's a foul". Where do you think that came from? It's not just isolated clips or games either. Even Wilt used to harp on this topic by saying they made changes to make his life easy while they made changes to curb him (wilt). MJ's star officiating wasn't some secret even back then.

[OhayoKD]

Common sense is that when you take less than one three per game, then it means that the majority of your threes come from heaves and last second desperation shots, as it means that you don't attempt normal threes.

Common sense is also that when you see Jordan numbers, you see that he could shoot threes:

1985-89 Jordan: 22% on 0.8 3FGA
1990-93 Jordan: 34% on 2.1 3FGA

Squared specifically tracked non-heave 3's. He was still below average in efficiency for his own career in his own era with no one guarding them. Every guard worth their salt can shoot 3's now, but Jordan was not an elite 3-point shooter for his own era when the bar was much lower and shots were far less contested, so it's silly to assume he'd be one now. You can't even make the "look at his shooting form" argument one might want to make for bird.

But hey

Lebron is a 41% shooter when he takes at least 7 or 8 threes in a game. 39% when taking at least 6 threes in a game.

Obviously Lebron’s problem is he does not shoot enough!

Propping old players with nonsense fanfictions is getting old

There is something to the actual seasons where he shot a reasonable volume at the normal range and shot just fine. He clearly COULD shoot the 3 at a respectable clip, regardless of how you evaluate his low-volume seasons. Not that he was comparable in talent, but over his first couple seasons on low volume, you'd think Bird couldnt shoot it either using similar analysis.

There are 2 seasons multiple years apart he shot "at a reasonable volume". If we go to the playoffs we see he shot at that "reasonable volume" pretty much every year and his career average percentage...is the exact same as what it was for the chicago rs

looks like noise to me(or alternatively, jordan deciding to shoot more when he was hot; fiw MJ's volume also jumped with the shortened line and...went back down when it was pushed back)

And if he really was capable of doing that every year...then why didn't he even try?

You also shifted the narrative from "Jordan couldn't shoot" to "Jordan wasn't elite three point shooter" because you know you are wrong.

Nope. Strawman again. Jordan's effeciency going down at 2-3 times the volume of even his "reasonable volume" while being defended harder is not "jordan couldn't shoot". If you want to argue Jordan is actually worse on open looks than contested ones, by all means, but don't lie about what I said to make yourself look more reasonable.

Narrative is when we take 2 seasons(and lets ignore the playoffs) to suggest Jordan's issue was sample size when over a career sample of non-heaves, Jordan's effeciency was below average for his league.

One of us is fine using his actual prodcution and even his relative standing to the league, the other is trying to force a hypothetical based on cherrypicked numbers. You tell me who is "pushing a narrative"

[Hair Jordan]

A lot of era ignorance is sparked by the likes of Barkley, Reggie Miller, kenny smith on tv every night thinking old games still only exist on VHS tapes or some dusty film archive.

No, these guys weren't some gladiators getting their fingers torn open on every layup. The softening of the league actually strarted well within their era. Watch the full MJ 63 point game against the Celtics, you wouldn't see a worse instance of star officiating or even just a softer reffed playoff game. Then No, the Bad boy pistons weren't the norm for the average team.There's a reason they all cried to freeze Isiah from the olympics to spite him. Fans from back then would actually be bemused to find out they would one day be romanticised. No one else played that way because no one else had Isiah and Laimbeer. Also don't know how modern fans can claim to love Laimbeer then turn around and scream for Draymond Green to be kicked out of the league. Maked me wonder if teens in 2065 are going to be romanticising Draymond's green antics as an era for real men.

Superstar calls, relaxation of travelling rules and taunts was started by Stern himseld after MJ made him realise marketing star wings was more appealing to casuals than slow lumbering bigs attempting baby hooks all game. Then there are the techs, today is way stricter but people make it seem like players were allowed to spit on each other every other for jokes. Mutombo for example got a lot of techs and fines for his signature finger wag but when I go to the commetn section of these highlights there are people talking about how he would have gotten a tech in today's game. Like Bruh, he did get a teched and fined. Even MJ got teched on the legendary revenge finger wag at Mutombo.

It was Stern not Silver that started making the game more finesse and it came as early as the late 80s and 90s.

Total revisionist history. Go back and watch game 2 of the ‘91 Finals. They called three quick fouls on Jordan in a home Finals game. Star players nowadays don’t get three fouls called in them in a month.

I didn't say it's worse or better than today, but rather that it existed, maybe even started in their time period. Magic said it best: "Don't get too close to Michael or it's a foul". Where do you think that came from? It's not just isolated clips or games either. Even Wilt used to harp on this topic by saying they made changes to make his life easy while they made changes to curb him (wilt). MJ's star officiating wasn't some secret even back then.

Yeah, and then Jordan responded to Magic by saying “how can you talk? I don’t think you ever fouled out of a game.” The point is that all superstar players get favorable calls. Look at the Lakers the last two years. They lead the league in FT attempts by a huge margin. Why do you think that is? Lebron obviously. Not only does he get a favorable whistle but his entire team gets a favorable whistle. Show me evidence of the Bulls leading the league by the same amount of FT over a two year stretch like Lebron’s Lakers. I’ll wait.

[70sFan]

If we go to the playoffs we see he shot at that "reasonable volume" pretty much every year and his career average percentage...is the exact same as what it was for the chicago rs

So now you include seasons with shorter three point line for your convenience?

1985-93 Jordan in RS: 30.4% on 1.4 attempts
1985-93 Jordan in PS: 35.2% on 2.2 attempts

looks like noise to me(or alternatively, jordan deciding to shoot more when he was hot; fiw MJ's volume also jumped with the shortened line and...went back down when it was pushed back)

Maybe it's noise, maybe not but you can't deny that the worst shooting seasons from Jordan came when his volume was the lowest... which is the opposite of what your sense (I wouldn't call it common sense) said to you.

Jordan's efficiency went down in 1998 because he was dealing with finger injury, his midrange shot also went down in that season.

And if he really was capable of doing that every year...then why didn't he even try?

Because nobody did back then. You don't understand that you use anachronistic approach to evaluate basketball. Do you honestly believe that Larry Bird couldn't shoot threes before 1985?

Nope. Strawman again. Jordan's effeciency going down at 2-3 times the volume of even his "reasonable volume" while being defended harder is not "jordan couldn't shoot". If you want to argue Jordan is actually worse on open looks than contested ones, by all means, but don't lie about what I said to make yourself look more reasonable.

Well, that's not the only thing you said in your posts, which are available for everyone to read.

Narrative is when we take 2 seasons(and lets ignore the playoffs) to suggest Jordan's issue was sample size when over a career sample of non-heaves, Jordan's effeciency was below average for his league.

No, we can get 4 seasons sample and he'd still look better with increased volume. We also shouldn't ignore the playoffs, because Jordan improved his shooting efficiency in postseason.

One of us is fine using his actual prodcution and even his relative standing to the league, the other is trying to force a hypothetical based on cherrypicked numbers. You tell me who is "pushing a narrative"

What hypothetical? I stated one thing in this conversation - that Jordan efficiency was better with increased volume. That's a fact, not hypothetical. Learn how to use stats if you don't see it.

I don't care about Jordan or his believers forcing narratives, I care about serious discussion. We all know that you do everything to discredit Jordan here and sometimes you have good points to provide, but this time you failed.

[donnieme]

Total revisionist history. Go back and watch game 2 of the ‘91 Finals. They called three quick fouls on Jordan in a home Finals game. Star players nowadays don’t get three fouls called in them in a month.

I didn't say it's worse or better than today, but rather that it existed, maybe even started in their time period. Magic said it best: "Don't get too close to Michael or it's a foul". Where do you think that came from? It's not just isolated clips or games either. Even Wilt used to harp on this topic by saying they made changes to make his life easy while they made changes to curb him (wilt). MJ's star officiating wasn't some secret even back then.

Yeah, and then Jordan responded to Magic by saying “how can you talk? I don’t think you ever fouled out of a game.” The point is that all superstar players get favorable calls. Look at the Lakers the last two years. They lead the league in FT attempts by a huge margin. Why do you think that is? Lebron obviously. Not only does he get a favorable whistle but his entire team gets a favorable whistle. Show me evidence of the Bulls leading the league by the same amount of FT over a two year stretch like Lebron’s Lakers. I’ll wait.

I said star calls exist today for like the twelvth hundred time. That one was never claimed or denied.

The point was star calls aren't a recent phenomenon. They didnt just start to creep into the game after 2015 like the oldheads claim. The softening of the league started in the very generation of players most vocal on dissing the present. Rodman for example was an alltime great flopper. Barkley who loves dissing bigs for taking 3s was known for spamming threes on a volume his efficiency could barely support. Even the image of grit and enmity was a myth. There just wasn't any twitter to see MJ playing golf with finals opponents. Or that Malone and Rodman were actually tight.

[Hair Jordan]

I didn't say it's worse or better than today, but rather that it existed, maybe even started in their time period. Magic said it best: "Don't get too close to Michael or it's a foul". Where do you think that came from? It's not just isolated clips or games either. Even Wilt used to harp on this topic by saying they made changes to make his life easy while they made changes to curb him (wilt). MJ's star officiating wasn't some secret even back then.

Yeah, and then Jordan responded to Magic by saying “how can you talk? I don’t think you ever fouled out of a game.” The point is that all superstar players get favorable calls. Look at the Lakers the last two years. They lead the league in FT attempts by a huge margin. Why do you think that is? Lebron obviously. Not only does he get a favorable whistle but his entire team gets a favorable whistle. Show me evidence of the Bulls leading the league by the same amount of FT over a two year stretch like Lebron’s Lakers. I’ll wait.

I said star calls exist today for like the twelvth hundred time. That one was never claimed or denied.

The point was star calls aren't a recent phenomenon. They didnt just start to creep into the game after 2015 like the oldheads claim. The softening of the league started in the very generation of players most vocal on dissing the present. Rodman for example was an alltime great flopper. Barkley who loves dissing bigs for taking 3s was known for spamming threes on a volume his efficiency could barely support. Even the image of grit and enmity was a myth. There just wasn't any twitter to see MJ playing golf with finals opponents. Or that Malone and Rodman were actually tight.

You obviously weren’t alive back then and have no idea what you’re talking about

[Iwasawitness]

You have to be trolling right? MJs 3pt effeciency goes up in seasons he takes more volume.

Please stop responding if you are just going to troll

You can't base people's effeciency on less than 1 3pt a game seasons. The sample size is too small and is made up of just a high % of bail out shots

It went up when the line was shortened and collapsed the second the line was pushed back, If you think Jordan's effiency is going to improve from his shots actually getting defended on 3 times the attempts, you are delusional

No, MJs effeciency is correlated more to the volume he takes. Any regular and playoff seasons he takes 2 or more attempts a game he averages decent 3pt effeciency

Whatever biasis you have against MJ don't twist reality to suit your narrative

Buddy, Jordan’s increased three point percentage happened during the seasons the three point line shortened. That’s the entire reason he took more threes in the first place.

Ohayo is one of our more knowledgeable posters on the site. He’s anything but a troll.

[TheGOATRises007]

Squared specifically tracked non-heave 3's. He was still below average in efficiency for his own career in his own era with no one guarding them. Every guard worth their salt can shoot 3's now, but Jordan was not an elite 3-point shooter for his own era when the bar was much lower and shots were far less contested, so it's silly to assume he'd be one now. You can't even make the "look at his shooting form" argument one might want to make for bird.

You are still arguing in a bad faith and you didn't address my response. You said that it's common sense that increased volume makes players less efficient, but I proved that Jordan was more efficient when he took more shots.

It's obvious to anyone that watched more than a few selected games and highlight videos from the 1980s that even good shooters didn't even try to shoot threes and it wasn't because lack of ability.

You also shifted the narrative from "Jordan couldn't shoot" to "Jordan wasn't elite three point shooter" because you know you are wrong. Nobody here tries to force the narrative that Jordan would be Curry equivalent from 3 point line today, but you try to judge Jordan shooting ability from seasons when he took 50 threes per season, even though we have much bigger sample from the early 1990s showing that he could make them at respectable level.

Propping old players with nonsense fanfictions is getting old

Your horrible attempts to force anti-Jordan narrative at all cost is also getting old.

You're wasting your time.

[TheGOATRises007]

It went up when the line was shortened and collapsed the second the line was pushed back, If you think Jordan's effiency is going to improve from his shots actually getting defended on 3 times the attempts, you are delusional

No, MJs effeciency is correlated more to the volume he takes. Any regular and playoff seasons he takes 2 or more attempts a game he averages decent 3pt effeciency

Whatever biasis you have against MJ don't twist reality to suit your narrative

Buddy, Jordan’s increased three point percentage happened during the seasons the three point line shortened. That’s the entire reason he took more threes in the first place.

Ohayo is one of our more knowledgeable posters on the site. He’s anything but a troll.

He's the definition of a troll

It's his shtick and he did the same thing on his other account