Hair Jordan wrote:og15 wrote:It might be time for us to get OP off the laptop, phone, whatever it is. There should be a limit of nonsense threads made before you get your thread making privileges taken away.
You’re right. This forum seems like it’s patrolled by a bunch of kids who probably started watching the NBA around 2000 yet act like they have the requisite perspective to opine about players, teams, strategies and philosophies from earlier basketball eras. The mods seem to back up these kids to keep the status quo around here. Forgive me for thinking outside of the box with my topics and for trying to engage in a spirited debate. I’ll leave you to yourselves
This quote and your OP make it sound like you're accusing everyone of being too zoomed in on the current era and having no concept of basketball history and how it changes. The thing is, no player who ever flirted with being considered the great of all-time has ever dropped out of top 10 discussion over a 30-year sample. Wilt and Bill are still generally considered in the 3-8 range. Magic and Bird (I see them anywhere from 3-12) have dropped off as other players rise but it's been over 30 years since they've played. George Mikan is probably the only player ever to be considered the greatest of all-time to not be in the considered in the top 10. But that was 60 years ago, and I'm not sure how important the GOAT debate was when the NBA was only a decade old.
There are guys who were in the top 10 and have since been leapfrogged (Dr. J, Big O, West, Moses), but those players were never seriously argued as the GOAT over Wilt or Russell. There's a very short list of players who have been widely considered the greatest of all-time, and that list gets harder to join the longer the league exists and the more players there are.
If Lebron is falling out of the top 10, that means that everyone else in the top 10 is falling out of the top 10. So I don't see the reason for singling out Lebron here. So many people have him at #1 or in their top 4. So for him not to be on lists... that means Shaq, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Duncan, Wilt are all falling out too.