OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League

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Post#141 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:49 pm

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KembaWalker wrote:I think you guys way overrate the level of play in the big 3. Half the dudes in this league don’t have the cardio or footspeed to keep up with Caitlin Clark if she ran from the baseline to one of her spots 30’ out more than a couple times. Cuttino Mobley and Mahmoud Abdul Rauf are not chasing her around the court. She’d get plenty of shots up and do fine


You're massively overrating the ability of even the greatest woman ever in basketball. She couldn't make a high school allstar boys team. She'd not make a D3 men's team. And that's not a knock on her, it's just biology.


No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.
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Re: OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League 

Post#142 » by blueNorange » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:59 pm

KembaWalker wrote:If she was prioritizing money she would have stayed in college another year

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Re: OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League 

Post#143 » by blueNorange » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:02 pm

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You're massively overrating the ability of even the greatest woman ever in basketball. She couldn't make a high school allstar boys team. She'd not make a D3 men's team. And that's not a knock on her, it's just biology.


No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.

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Re: OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League 

Post#144 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:22 pm

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No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.

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Re: OT Ice Cube offers Caitlin Clark 5 million dollar contract to join BIG 3 League 

Post#145 » by Ambrose » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:22 pm

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dhsilv2 wrote:
You're massively overrating the ability of even the greatest woman ever in basketball. She couldn't make a high school allstar boys team. She'd not make a D3 men's team. And that's not a knock on her, it's just biology.


No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.


He's clearly never seen men and women compete together. The lack of that knowledge is apparent.
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Post#146 » by KembaWalker » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:32 pm

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No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.


He's clearly never seen men and women compete together. The lack of that knowledge is apparent.


I watched Allen Iverson play in the big 3 and he could barely jog lol. Glen Davis was literally immobile. I’m far more knowledgeable on this than you, I can guarantee
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Post#147 » by azcatz11 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:36 pm

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phanman wrote:I'm sorry, how the hell is 5m chump change for her? She isn't some sort of mega earning professional athlete or business professional. 5m isn't even chump change to someone like LeBron. For context:

5mil for a maximum 10 games = 500k/game. It would put her on an earning scale similar to the superstars of the league today.


Well, she is arguably the most popular current athlete in the United States. I'd be surprised if she takes $5M to play in a gimmick league. It's like PornHub paying Nicole Kidman $20M for a porno...I just doubt she takes it.


So where is she expected to get 5m+ from because it sure as hell isn’t going to be the WNBA.


I'm not suggesting she's going to get the $5M from an additional revenue source. I just don't think she's going to a clown show, gimmick league which would diminish her brand. Do you honestly think she takes that money?
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Post#148 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:40 pm

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Ambrose wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.


He's clearly never seen men and women compete together. The lack of that knowledge is apparent.


I watched Allen Iverson play in the big 3 and he could barely jog lol. Glen Davis was literally immobile. I’m far more knowledgeable on this than you, I can guarantee


OK you forced me to go watch some Big 3 footage.

1. AI was the worst player on the floor by a mile
2. I'm even more convinced a women couldn't compete with how those games were played/called. The physicality was much more than I'd expected.
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Post#149 » by KembaWalker » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:46 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
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He's clearly never seen men and women compete together. The lack of that knowledge is apparent.


I watched Allen Iverson play in the big 3 and he could barely jog lol. Glen Davis was literally immobile. I’m far more knowledgeable on this than you, I can guarantee


OK you forced me to go watch some Big 3 footage.

1. AI was the worst player on the floor by a mile
2. I'm even more convinced a women couldn't compete with how those games were played/called. The physicality was much more than I'd expected.


I literally did not claim that she would be a good player for or “could compete”

I said she would get plenty of open shots because half the league is fat old bums that can’t and don’t want to chase her around

I never said she would be a good player in the league.

Not sure why I have to repeat this 100x to insecure men
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Post#150 » by jbsays » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:51 pm

Why not take the money?
The NIcole Kidman comparison doesn't work because she gets that much money from working in Hollywood movies. Clark has no other avenue to earn $5 million. The highest paid WNBA player makes $252k a season https://sportsnaut.com/highest-paid-wnba-players/

Same article states Clark makes $910,000 a year due to NIL. Here WNBA salary is set in stone and going to be 4 years for a total of $338,056. Does anyone expect her endorsements to jump up once she gets to the WNBA? Maybe... Candace PArker recieved $5.5 million in endorsements https://www.forbes.com/sites/brettknight/2022/01/13/the-highest-paid-female-athletes-score-a-record-167-million/?sh=10b995e778cc

If Big 3 will really pay her she will already be the highest paid female basketball player of all time at 22 years old with big 3, WNBA rookie salary, and endorsements. IMO, she'd be crazy not to take the $5 million or even try to negotiate for more money from the Big 3.
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Post#151 » by gottamakeit » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:55 pm

The (nba/wnba) mafia will bully her into rejecting that offer
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Post#152 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:56 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
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I watched Allen Iverson play in the big 3 and he could barely jog lol. Glen Davis was literally immobile. I’m far more knowledgeable on this than you, I can guarantee


OK you forced me to go watch some Big 3 footage.

1. AI was the worst player on the floor by a mile
2. I'm even more convinced a women couldn't compete with how those games were played/called. The physicality was much more than I'd expected.


I literally did not claim that she would be a good player for or “could compete”

I said she would get plenty of open shots because half the league is fat old bums that can’t and don’t want to chase her around

I never said she would be a good player in the league.

Not sure why I have to repeat this 100x to insecure men


They don't have to chase her around...none of those guys are passing well enough to take advantage of all her running around lol. Not to mention chasing? Guys are getting fouled all over the place, it's a very physical league and not in a good way.
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Post#153 » by Ambrose » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:06 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
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dhsilv2 wrote:
We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.


He's clearly never seen men and women compete together. The lack of that knowledge is apparent.


I watched Allen Iverson play in the big 3 and he could barely jog lol. Glen Davis was literally immobile. I’m far more knowledgeable on this than you, I can guarantee


The fact that this is the evidence you put forth proves my point. He looked immobile...against men. Against women...he would not. At a certain point it's best to admit you don't know what you're talking about.
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Post#154 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:13 pm

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Well, she is arguably the most popular current athlete in the United States. I'd be surprised if she takes $5M to play in a gimmick league. It's like PornHub paying Nicole Kidman $20M for a porno...I just doubt she takes it.


So where is she expected to get 5m+ from because it sure as hell isn’t going to be the WNBA.


I'm not suggesting she's going to get the $5M from an additional revenue source. I just don't think she's going to a clown show, gimmick league which would diminish her brand. Do you honestly think she takes that money?


Unless there’s some other way she can make that kind of money only playing 10 games, I see no reason as to why she shouldn’t accept this.
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Post#155 » by sikma42 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:14 pm

OdomFan wrote:I don't see the problem with lowering the rims. The WNBA needs an identity of its own. fact is they can't dunk regularly on the NBA leveled rim and that's fine imo. So make it so that they can dunk. If they want to boost ratings even a little it can help to have dunking. It doesn't have to be equal to NBA in everything.

The women’s game is in a great place with the upcoming stars and the popularity of the women’s tournament. The rim is fine. No need to change and I think it would ruin the product and nobody would want it.


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Post#156 » by The Servant » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:39 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:This is more money than she'd make from her salary throughout her entire WNBA career (more or less). Her endorsements would take a big hit though, and the novelty of her playing against men in the Big 3 league would wear off after at most a year. WNBA is the better career path for her.



WNBA max salary per season: $235,000

Big 3 offer: $5,000,000 for one season

It would take 21 years making the biggest salary in the WNBA to match one year of the Big3. Explain to me how the WNBA is the better move genius.
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Post#157 » by bballfan1three3 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:07 pm

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No, I’m really not. There’s high school boys that would dice up most of the big 3 for the same reason, actually being in shape. There’s some younger guys that would give her problems but the guys that are there to sell the tickets, the old 45+ year old fat guys with the names are literally physically incapable of keeping up with her even in a half court setting.

Of course they could post her up every time but that’s not what I claimed, all I said is that she’d have no trouble getting up open shots against some guys in that league

Y’all don’t understand the difference between a high level performing athlete in their cardio prime vs some fat circus sideshow acts


We've seen fat old men run circles around the top women's soccer teams too. Even reaction time between men and women is significantly different. So even when it comes to putting up shots, men react faster, significantly faster.

If it wasn't a half court event, that cardio could quickly become a bigger issue. But having it in the half court just makes this worse. I'm not saying she would never get an open look or get a shot off. But she'll be a cone on defense and her shots will get blocked an altered far more than you're giving credit for.

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Post#158 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:08 pm

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This would be the most money ever offered to a female basketball player coming out of college, 5 million for one season. WNBA contract would not anywhere match this.
Sources with direct knowledge of the deal tell us Cube's up and coming basketball league has already put the unprecedented offer on the table for Caitlin -- $5 million to play 8 regular season games and possibly 2 playoff games! That's it ... 10 games for $5 mil, guarantee



My 2 cents:

While I think it's ridiculous for women's basketball players to complain about Clark getting offers they never did - this ain't charity, Clark is a big draw right now - were I Clark, I wouldn't take the offer because I'd know that I couldn't compete in a league that is drawing capable men, and losing to nobodies would hurt my personal brand and the women's game.

I'll also say that while I like Ice Cube's idea to try to go after the women's market, I feel like he's not thinking about the long-term health of his league when he does this. Long term, the Big 3 needs to be thinking about building the best basketball product possible, and unless they have a separate women's league, Clark won't have a place in what a successful league looks like.

Regarding the idea that it's so much money that Clark has to take it, I'd disagree completely. Her big money will come from endorsements not competitive salary, and she'll jeopardize those future endorsements by doing this and going from "maybe the greatest female baller we've ever seen" to "another woman who couldn't compete with men".
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Post#159 » by bballfan1three3 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:10 pm

This is an amazing idea and the most interesting thing to happen in basketball this year. If you dont like it, you're scared Caitlin would cross your ankles into the hospital.

WOOO!
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Post#160 » by bballfan1three3 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:11 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
D.Brasco wrote:
Read on Twitter


This would be the most money ever offered to a female basketball player coming out of college, 5 million for one season. WNBA contract would not anywhere match this.
Sources with direct knowledge of the deal tell us Cube's up and coming basketball league has already put the unprecedented offer on the table for Caitlin -- $5 million to play 8 regular season games and possibly 2 playoff games! That's it ... 10 games for $5 mil, guarantee



My 2 cents:

While I think it's ridiculous for women's basketball players to complain about Clark getting offers they never did - this ain't charity, Clark is a big draw right now - were I Clark, I wouldn't take the offer because I'd know that I couldn't compete in a league that is drawing capable men, and losing to nobodies would hurt my personal brand and the women's game.

I'll also say that while I like Ice Cube's idea to try to go after the women's market, I feel like he's not thinking about the long-term health of his league when he does this. Long term, the Big 3 needs to be thinking about building the best basketball product possible, and unless they have a separate women's league, Clark won't have a place in what a successful league looks like.

Regarding the idea that it's so much money that Clark has to take it, I'd disagree completely. Her big money will come from endorsements not competitive salary, and she'll jeopardize those future endorsements by doing this and going from "maybe the greatest female baller we've ever seen" to "another woman who couldn't compete with men".

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