gottamakeit wrote:The (nba/wnba) mafia will bully her into rejecting that offer
I think the bigger force here is Nike. If Nike's happy for her to do it, no reason for her to be afraid of the NBA.
If I were Nike though, I'd want her to say "No".
Moderators: Harry Garris, ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, bwgood77, zimpy27, cupcakesnake, Domejandro, infinite11285
gottamakeit wrote:The (nba/wnba) mafia will bully her into rejecting that offer
bballfan1three3 wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:D.Brasco wrote:
This would be the most money ever offered to a female basketball player coming out of college, 5 million for one season. WNBA contract would not anywhere match this.
My 2 cents:
While I think it's ridiculous for women's basketball players to complain about Clark getting offers they never did - this ain't charity, Clark is a big draw right now - were I Clark, I wouldn't take the offer because I'd know that I couldn't compete in a league that is drawing capable men, and losing to nobodies would hurt my personal brand and the women's game.
I'll also say that while I like Ice Cube's idea to try to go after the women's market, I feel like he's not thinking about the long-term health of his league when he does this. Long term, the Big 3 needs to be thinking about building the best basketball product possible, and unless they have a separate women's league, Clark won't have a place in what a successful league looks like.
Regarding the idea that it's so much money that Clark has to take it, I'd disagree completely. Her big money will come from endorsements not competitive salary, and she'll jeopardize those future endorsements by doing this and going from "maybe the greatest female baller we've ever seen" to "another woman who couldn't compete with men".
It's not a real league. It's a bunch of ppl drinking 40s and playing 3 on 3. It's half court!
The Servant wrote:Explain to me how the WNBA is the better move genius.
jbsays wrote:Clark has no other avenue to earn $5 million.
Doctor MJ wrote:bballfan1three3 wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:
My 2 cents:
While I think it's ridiculous for women's basketball players to complain about Clark getting offers they never did - this ain't charity, Clark is a big draw right now - were I Clark, I wouldn't take the offer because I'd know that I couldn't compete in a league that is drawing capable men, and losing to nobodies would hurt my personal brand and the women's game.
I'll also say that while I like Ice Cube's idea to try to go after the women's market, I feel like he's not thinking about the long-term health of his league when he does this. Long term, the Big 3 needs to be thinking about building the best basketball product possible, and unless they have a separate women's league, Clark won't have a place in what a successful league looks like.
Regarding the idea that it's so much money that Clark has to take it, I'd disagree completely. Her big money will come from endorsements not competitive salary, and she'll jeopardize those future endorsements by doing this and going from "maybe the greatest female baller we've ever seen" to "another woman who couldn't compete with men".
It's not a real league. It's a bunch of ppl drinking 40s and playing 3 on 3. It's half court!
So you're saying Clark should sell her brand for $5 mill to play with unserious people who will associate her with malt liquor?
I think you're underestimating the value of her brand and her need for quick money. She's already a millionaire several times over from NIL.
The Servant wrote:NyKnicks1714 wrote:This is more money than she'd make from her salary throughout her entire WNBA career (more or less). Her endorsements would take a big hit though, and the novelty of her playing against men in the Big 3 league would wear off after at most a year. WNBA is the better career path for her.
WNBA max salary per season: $235,000
Big 3 offer: $5,000,000 for one season
It would take 21 years making the biggest salary in the WNBA to match one year of the Big3. Explain to me how the WNBA is the better move genius.
NyKnicks1714 wrote:This is more money than she'd make from her salary throughout her entire WNBA career (more or less). Her endorsements would take a big hit though, and the novelty of her playing against men in the Big 3 league would wear off after at most a year. WNBA is the better career path for her.
UcanUwill wrote:Woodsanity wrote:HMFFL wrote:Lowering the rim instantly discredits any league.
Sent from my SM-N975U using RealGM mobile app
Well the wnba is losing money every year and is subsidized by the nba.
Wnba players are already using smaller balls so its not the same game anyway. If there were more dunks due to lowered rims, I bet viewership would go up.
At any rate its not like they are doing well currently anyway....
Lowering the rim IMO, is just basically giving up. Like, I shared many times that I have depression, and my psychiatrist sometimes say that I should get a dog or cat, but I feel, if I do that - that is just giving up. So yeah, lowering the rim, is an equivalent of lonely person getting a cat, I do not like the idea.
sisibilio wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Woodsanity wrote:Well the wnba is losing money every year and is subsidized by the nba.
Wnba players are already using smaller balls so its not the same game anyway. If there were more dunks due to lowered rims, I bet viewership would go up.
At any rate its not like they are doing well currently anyway....
Lowering the rim IMO, is just basically giving up. Like, I shared many times that I have depression, and my psychiatrist sometimes say that I should get a dog or cat, but I feel, if I do that - that is just giving up. So yeah, lowering the rim, is an equivalent of lonely person getting a cat, I do not like the idea.
How is that giving up?
Gtting a dog would actually help the socializing stuff big time. IDK
FrodoFraggins wrote:The only downside I see to doing it is getting herself exposed by playing against men.
xdrta+ wrote:I don't get the reasoning that her "brand" will take a big dive. If she can compete, people will say, big deal, it's just against old, fat guys. If she can't, people will say, big deal, it's against men. No one is really going to care about the result. It's a novelty that people will tune into just for the fun of it.
10 games? Take the money, I say. There's really no downside.
KembaWalker wrote:NBA should raise the rim, why are they out here playing on the same rim that I played on in 3rd grade? You’re 7’ and you need the rim the same height as a 3rd grader? Man up
Ducklett wrote:xdrta+ wrote:I don't get the reasoning that her "brand" will take a big dive. If she can compete, people will say, big deal, it's just against old, fat guys. If she can't, people will say, big deal, it's against men. No one is really going to care about the result. It's a novelty that people will tune into just for the fun of it.
10 games? Take the money, I say. There's really no downside.
Your argument doesn't really hold water in 2024 and I don't plan on derailing this thread or getting it closed by turning it into anything other at the discussion of Caitlyn, so I won't elaborate.
I wanna say good for Caitlyn getting a big money offer, even if it is Ice Cube using her popularity to try to make his league relevant.
xdrta+ wrote:I don't get the reasoning that her "brand" will take a big dive. If she can compete, people will say, big deal, it's just against old, fat guys. If she can't, people will say, big deal, it's against men. No one is really going to care about the result. It's a novelty that people will tune into just for the fun of it.
10 games? Take the money, I say. There's really no downside.
bballfan1three3 wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:bballfan1three3 wrote:It's not a real league. It's a bunch of ppl drinking 40s and playing 3 on 3. It's half court!
So you're saying Clark should sell her brand for $5 mill to play with unserious people who will associate her with malt liquor?
I think you're underestimating the value of her brand and her need for quick money. She's already a millionaire several times over from NIL.
I think you're underestimating how little the average person cares about logic behind branding. McDonald's is garbage ppl eat it every day. Brands are just popular things.
Going up against MEN is like the final ceiling. Just imagine for one second how famous she would be if she could even remotely compete. For real.
It's not a "real league" as in they aren't playing full court and taking it as serious as pro sports. So what. I'm interested in the AVERAGE persons interest in putting themselves in the big 3 players shoes.
This is more like a professional version of an office basketball league. No one over 40 is gonna want to run serious games full court vs men in their teens and 20s- no duh. They will lose. But people actually do play serious games at offices that would mimic this- maybe a 22 year old girl vs a 45 year old male is a somewhat fair matchup, I don't know. Never seen it. It's more about "street cred" than anything else.
These YouTube videos will get like 50 Million views. Ice cubes is a genius
This is the absolute most ideal situation for her.
-they have 4 point shots
-her whole game is shooting
-half court
-opponents are somewhat older. As old as realistically possible for her to be taken serious
-lots of breaks, not too much sprinting
If she still can't yeah throw in the towel. But this is a actual fun scenario people could do in their driveway.
Also like 99% of humans understand that MEN and WOMEN are different. It's just an obtuse few who put head in the sand, for reasons unknown. Morality I assume.
I don't see how losing in a MENS league would make a WOMAN look bad. If anything it makes her look good she was even invited.
Doctor MJ wrote:gottamakeit wrote:The (nba/wnba) mafia will bully her into rejecting that offer
I think the bigger force here is Nike. If Nike's happy for her to do it, no reason for her to be afraid of the NBA.
If I were Nike though, I'd want her to say "No".