OT: Kentucky's John Calipari is headed to Arkansas; Dan Hurley turned down $12.5m/yr offer from Kentucky

[___Rand___]

Personally I think Kentucky is about to throw the bag at Hurley. I'm going to guess $10m per and more than $5m in NIL money (what Cal got from Arkansas) so he can keep recruiting NBA players.

If Huskies can't get Hurley, it's Drew. Not sure if Donovan is coming back to college. College is more work than NBA with constant recruiting. Scout and recruit HS players, recruit transfers, recruit your own guys, raise money for NIL.

Hurley kind of shot down UK saying he’s not leaving UConn mainly bc his wife doesn’t wanna move…that’s going to be tough no matter how much they throw at him. I think he’s off the board.

Oates is off the board also. So now I think they focus on Jay Wright. He took his year off, is still relatively young.

I'm sure Mrs. Hurley can be persuaded. I saw a shot of her. She looks like a strong headed woman. Kentucky got them horse races and a more genteel weather.

Yeah Jay Wright would be interesting. He said no in the studio but things can change.

Ha I just saw the last bit of Hurley's appearance on Pat Mc show. His wife was next to him on team bus and Pat Mc told her "Kentucky's got warm weather". LOL.

Hurley said again he's not interested in UK. But he smiled big when Pat Mc told him there's a big raise coming for him at UConn. So UConn is throwing the bag at him to keep him there.

[Duke4life831]

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

[Dan33185]

I get that Kentucky is a more nationally known & historic basketball school than UConn, but I can't see Hurley leaving after winning 2 titles in a row and looking like a dynasty at this point. Just makes no sense. UConn has money as well, and I'm sure they'll re-do his contract accordingly.

[azcatz11]

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

Boswell was going to lose his job to Bradley (former five star)

No shade against Boswell - but the writing has been on the wall with him for months now. I think he has alot of potential but he’s too inconsistent and clearly lost confidence as the season progressed. The talks of him being OAD were premature.

I personally don’t see Lloyd leaving for Kentucky bc it doesn’t seem like a personality fit. But yes, I am a bit concerned. I don’t think these 2 transfers will impact him one way or the other

[dhsilv2]

Personally I think Kentucky is about to throw the bag at Hurley. I'm going to guess $10m per and more than $5m in NIL money (what Cal got from Arkansas) so he can keep recruiting NBA players.

If Huskies can't get Hurley, it's Drew. Not sure if Donovan is coming back to college. College is more work than NBA with constant recruiting. Scout and recruit HS players, recruit transfers, recruit your own guys, raise money for NIL.

Hurley kind of shot down UK saying he’s not leaving UConn mainly bc his wife doesn’t wanna move…that’s going to be tough no matter how much they throw at him. I think he’s off the board.

Oates is off the board also. So now I think they focus on Jay Wright. He took his year off, is still relatively young.

I'm sure Mrs. Hurley can be persuaded. I saw a shot of her. She looks like a strong headed woman. Kentucky got them horse races and a more genteel weather.

Yeah Jay Wright would be interesting. He said no in the studio but things can change.

Lexington is an exceptionally nice place to live with the kinda money UK can throw at them. It's a relatively inexpensive city with a lot of wealthy people. That's a great combination when you add in there's a tone of land to be had.

[___Rand___]

Stories beginning to emerge of problems in UK in the last few years under Calipari. This here is the most damning part:

“This is a fact: at the end of his time, he had no relationship of substance with his athletic director, no relationship of substance with his athletic department, no relationship of substance with the biggest boosters, no relationship of substance with the media, any of them.

https://www.on3.com/college/kentucky-wildcats/news/kentucky-insider-details-disaster-behind-the-scenes-of-john-calipari-move/

[___Rand___]

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

Boswell was going to lose his job to Bradley (former five star)

No shade against Boswell - but the writing has been on the wall with him for months now. I think he has alot of potential but he’s too inconsistent and clearly lost confidence as the season progressed. The talks of him being OAD were premature.

I personally don’t see Lloyd leaving for Kentucky bc it doesn’t seem like a personality fit. But yes, I am a bit concerned. I don’t think these 2 transfers will impact him one way or the other

I'm hearing Boswell likes to party too much. Stories of him being drunk night before games, and gambling in casinos etc. If they're accurate, he's wasted his talent.

I wonder how many of Cal's recruits will follow him to Arkansas.

[Lalouie]

But things like that start to wear thin on a fanbase when you start to have a lot of off years and it really just seems like your primary,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

"SEEMS"??
no that was cal's PRIMARY pitch to his elite recruits

it was a pledge in fact,,, a promise, to hilite their skills for the nba

that is how he recruited

[___Rand___]

Baylor's Scott Drew has been offered Kentucky job. (Rumor)

[jkvonny]

Baylor's Scott Drew has been offered Kentucky job.

Wow! He'd be a great hire for KY.

He helped resurrect the Baylor Bears mens basketball program from the dead back in the mid 2000s when he took over. They were fresh off multiple firings of coaches/staff/office, , scandals, murder of a player, probation, post season ban, full team transferring out, multiple losing seasons, etc. BU was a mess!
It carried over into his first few seasons. His teams were a bunch of walk-ons and tranfers from JuCo, D-II, D-III, NAIA, etc.
In a few short years, turned them around to a perennial powerhouse, contender. Doesn't do the one and dones very much, great recruiter (in-state and nationally), his teams are usually veteran/upperclassmen laden (they tend to stay a few seasons). Great Xs and Os coach. The 2010s to now they have been a Big XII juggernaut. Won teh National Championship in 2021 against teh favored Gonzaga Bulldogs. Makes multiple deep tournament runs. If anybody can turn Kentucky around the proper way, it would be Drew!
Kentucky needs to throw a lot of money on this guy.

Good Christian guy and family man. The players, fans love him and good with the media.

[Sorkoram]

Is Arkansas a basketball school?

Most folks might say it's a track school first, then basketball and they wouldn't be wrong. In the SEC, football's king and brings in most of the revenue, but in Arkansas, basketball is the top sport, especially being the sport where most fans have seen a National Championship in our lifetime. State doesn't produce enough football talent and isn't close enough to large metros to compete in most years like baseball and basketball more recently.

For Cal, the NIL money and salary was namely from one booster, his Tyson bud. The fan collective NIL hasn't really contributed to those efforts just yet across any sport. Under Musselman, the program saw success and had NIL pledges from the JB Hunt family, so we're seeing a different bag come in with Calipari. There's more funds for him to tap at some point NIL wise. If there were questions left about Arkansas being a basketball school, this deal pretty much confirmed it. It's a good deal for both Arkansas and Kentucky, even better for the SEC.

[___Rand___]

Baylor's Scott Drew has been offered Kentucky job.

Wow! He'd be a great hire for KY.

He helped resurrect the Baylor Bears mens basketball program from the dead back in the mid 2000s when he took over. They were fresh off multiple firings of coaches/staff/office, , scandals, murder of a player, probation, post season ban, full team transferring out, multiple losing seasons, etc. BU was a mess!
It carried over into his first few seasons. His teams were a bunch of walk-ons and tranfers from JuCo, D-II, D-III, NAIA, etc.
In a few short years, turned them around to a perennial powerhouse, contender. Doesn't do the one and dones very much, great recruiter (in-state and nationally), his teams are usually veteran/upperclassmen laden (they tend to stay a few seasons). Great Xs and Os coach. The 2010s to now they have been a Big XII juggernaut. Won teh National Championship in 2021 against teh favored Gonzaga Bulldogs. Makes multiple deep tournament runs. If anybody can turn Kentucky around the proper way, it would be Drew!
Kentucky needs to throw a lot of money on this guy.

Good Christian guy and family man. The players, fans love him and good with the media.

Yeah he doesn't have the buzz around him at the moment, but he seems like the most logical guy for UK. He's making $3.7m at Baylor. If UK offers him $6m along with a huge NIL bag I can't see him turning that down. Other guys are a stretch. He won't be recruiting those 1 and dones (or will he now at UK) and some fans might not like that.

[Slacktard]

The split was necessary.

2024: lose in the first round to a 14 seed.
2023: lose in the second round.
2022: lose in the first round to a 15 seed.
2021: miss the tournament.

Once the NiL became a thing, Cal's advantage of recruiting went out the window.

His last final four appearance was 2015. Last (and only) NCAA championship was in 2012.

Since his last final four appearance in 2015, Jay Wright took Villanova to THREE final fours (won two of them... Which is one more career championship than Calipari has) and he's also been retired for 2 full college seasons now.

He wasn't getting to the final four even before NIL's happened.

[kacey ring]

“How about a Billy Gillespie reunion?!” - said no one

In all seriousness, Drew would be a great hire.

Taking a moment to look at the full picture and I’m proud of what Cal did for UK. Sure the last few years sucked, but he sustained the elite status for the program.

Cal’s departure is best for everyone. I imagine he endured a lot of stress from the crazy high expectations we have every year. Hell, he set the bar too high for himself with the incredible start he had.

[JujitsuFlip]

The split was necessary.

2024: lose in the first round to a 14 seed.
2023: lose in the second round.
2022: lose in the first round to a 15 seed.
2021: miss the tournament.

Once the NiL became a thing, Cal's advantage of recruiting went out the window.

His last final four appearance was 2015. Last (and only) NCAA championship was in 2012.

Since his last final four appearance in 2015, Jay Wright took Villanova to THREE final fours (won two of them... Which is one more career championship than Calipari has) and he's also been retired for 2 full college seasons now.

He wasn't getting to the final four even before NIL's happened.

Meh this is a flawed view.

2015: final 4
2016: second round
2017: elite 8
2018: sweet 16
2019: elite 8
2020: no tournament but SEC reg champs

It has honestly just been the past 4 seasons that he absolutely fell off a cliff, most specifically 2 of the last 3 losing to a 15 seed and 14 seed in the round of 64.

[Hoop Hunter]

Calipari is a great coach. He has always got highschool stars to play as a team. No matter how talented his freshman have been, they are still dumb freshman. You can't coach experience.

[wco81]

The split was necessary.

2024: lose in the first round to a 14 seed.
2023: lose in the second round.
2022: lose in the first round to a 15 seed.
2021: miss the tournament.

Once the NiL became a thing, Cal's advantage of recruiting went out the window.

Your last sentence hits the nail on the head.

Plus there is no evidence that he can coach or develop players.

He gets the best raw talents but then players like SGA and Maxey take off AFTER they enter the NBA, meaning it’s the development staffs at the NBA level, people whose names most fans don’t know and who make a fraction of Cal’s salary help turn his former recruits into All-NBA players.

He gets big bucks for recruiting all the top one and done players.

What would happen if players can go directly to the NBA?

[DirtyDez]

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

Tommy isn’t a blue blood caliber coach…. Yet.

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

Boswell was going to lose his job to Bradley (former five star)

No shade against Boswell - but the writing has been on the wall with him for months now. I think he has alot of potential but he’s too inconsistent and clearly lost confidence as the season progressed. The talks of him being OAD were premature.

I personally don’t see Lloyd leaving for Kentucky bc it doesn’t seem like a personality fit. But yes, I am a bit concerned. I don’t think these 2 transfers will impact him one way or the other

I'm hearing Boswell likes to party too much. Stories of him being drunk night before games, and gambling in casinos etc. If they're accurate, he's wasted his talent.

I wonder how many of Cal's recruits will follow him to Arkansas.

You can go on AZ message boards and find the pictures. The problem these days is players being entitled because of NIL money. Tommy learned the hard way that not disciplining players for their transgressions can mess up a team’s morale. He’s too nice and it backfired but luckily Boz is a goner.

[Slacktard]

Calipari is a great coach. He has always got highschool stars to play as a team. No matter how talented his freshman have been, they are still dumb freshman. You can't coach experience.

Nobody forces him to do that though. He could have actually built teams. He liked the attention of having the next year's potential lottery picks on his team.

If you look at the teams that have won the last decade or so it's usually ACTUAL TEAMS and not just who got the most guys looking to jump to the NBA after 1 or 2 years.

[___Rand___]

Arizona has 2 starters entering the portal. Tommy Lloyd to UK maybe? If they strike out on the bigger names.

Tommy isn’t a blue blood caliber coach…. Yet.

Boswell was going to lose his job to Bradley (former five star)

No shade against Boswell - but the writing has been on the wall with him for months now. I think he has alot of potential but he’s too inconsistent and clearly lost confidence as the season progressed. The talks of him being OAD were premature.

I personally don’t see Lloyd leaving for Kentucky bc it doesn’t seem like a personality fit. But yes, I am a bit concerned. I don’t think these 2 transfers will impact him one way or the other

I'm hearing Boswell likes to party too much. Stories of him being drunk night before games, and gambling in casinos etc. If they're accurate, he's wasted his talent.

I wonder how many of Cal's recruits will follow him to Arkansas.

You can go on AZ message boards and find the pictures. The problem these days is players being entitled because of NIL money. Tommy learned the hard way that not disciplining players for their transgressions can mess up a team’s morale. He’s too nice and it backfired but luckily Boz is a goner.

I agree on both counts. You need to discipline your players. Heck how's he going to handle 1and dones if he can't handle regular recruits. What kids need is discipline at this age. Their brains haven't developed enough to exercise judgement. Heck imagine being an 18 year old kid and you get 200-500k in cash a year. I dunno if I'd have gone to any class LMAO.