2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN SWEEPS 4-0)

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Timberwolves in 4
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12%
Timberwolves in 5
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14%
Timberwolves in 6
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20%
Timberwolves in 7
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12%
Suns in 4
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3%
Suns in 5
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5%
Suns in 6
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26%
Suns in 7
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9%
 
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1221 » by spanishninja » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:00 pm

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Wow, if you need Bol in order to win, you're quite sure to be delusional


if you actually know things, you will be aware that he's actually been a key piece for us off the bench. Sure he's not the main difference maker but right now we need all the help we can get. Most notably, he's not Eubanks, already a plus.


Well, that's a problem for you then... I saw plenty of him as a Magic fan and, yes he can have some impressive plays but it follows with low IQ one more than often.


we definitely thought he was just some joke signing at first, but especially during the second half of the season he has progressed quite a bit since coming here. Efficiency way up, turnovers way down. Look at all of his advanced stats, net rating, etc.
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Post#1222 » by schnakenpopanz » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:22 pm

I mean I don't think suns can win the series by what i have seen in the first two games. They have to show some pride and dedication for gm3 or this will end up in a very ugly fashion.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1223 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:32 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Bol also had some good minutes for us, and given his length and ability to hit 3s as well, I don't know why they don't at least try him some.


He is a massive liability on the other end. He is not a serious playoff player let alone making an impact. I said the same thing about Yuta Watanabe when we signed him, and he is likely going back to Japan next season.


I agree he can be a liability, but he has length, can hit 3s, rebound, finish, etc. Against a big team like this where the Suns are not doing well at all, I'd try him at least a few minutes. You can always yank him quickly.

I know any of these minimum guys are not serious playoff players or they wouldn't be minimum players but I also don't think some of the other guys are serious playoff players, like Eubanks for example.
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Post#1224 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:57 pm

When Bol had a mismatch against (barely) 6'0 Jordan McLaughlin and couldn't get rid of the ball fast enough, I had seen all I needed to...
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1225 » by Clav » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:26 pm

I'm looking forward to Phoenix coming out with intensity and really searching to get Booker, KD, or Beal on a heater. Or two of the three. If the Suns can get some shots to roll, the crowd behind them, and confidence up, building a lead. They can win a game.

What seems to be happening is that when there are shift changes the defensive pressure is highly affecting the primary options for PHO and the bench players are just not connecting. (Allen being out or d2d is a loss he had a great season).

I still think MIN wins the series but this G3 I really feel that the fight of the Suns will come out.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1226 » by Calinks » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:54 pm

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ChipotleWest wrote:Wolves absolutely hit a home run in the 2020 draft, they got Ant #1 which was the right pick, and then at 28 they get Jaden McDaniels. I really think if Mavs had drafted McDaniels over Josh Green they would have all the pieces right now to win a championship, but the Mavs usually screw it up outside of Luka and Dirk (both Donnie Nelson picks, who they fired).

Gerson Rosas who is now with the Knicks does not get the credit he deserves for building the amazing foundation of this team. Tim Conelly gets all the credit and Tim has been great but Gerson did half the work. He picked Ant, he took Jaden, he moved Wiggins contract which at the time, seemed impossible. He found and hired Chris Finch when most people had no clue who he was. Gerson is a damn genius architect.


even the Edwards pick doesn't get enough credit. Normally there is a consensus #1 pick but with the Covid year and weak class overall, there was no consensus number 1. Many people had Lamelo or Wiseman at #1. Shout out to them for identifying the best player in a very weird year.

Yep I also forgot to mention, Gerson signed undrafted player Naz Reid who just became 6th man of the year. I can't understate how great of a job he did bringing talent into here while he was running things. He had his issues but the man had a ridiculous eye for talent. I told Knick fans they have a real talented guy when he officially joined them.
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Post#1227 » by shrink » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:09 pm

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Calinks wrote:Gerson Rosas who is now with the Knicks does not get the credit he deserves for building the amazing foundation of this team. Tim Conelly gets all the credit and Tim has been great but Gerson did half the work. He picked Ant, he took Jaden, he moved Wiggins contract which at the time, seemed impossible. He found and hired Chris Finch when most people had no clue who he was. Gerson is a damn genius architect.

even the Edwards pick doesn't get enough credit. Normally there is a consensus #1 pick but with the Covid year and weak class overall, there was no consensus number 1. Many people had Lamelo or Wiseman at #1. Shout out to them for identifying the best player in a very weird year.

Yep I also forgot to mention, Gerson signed undrafted player Naz Reid who just became 6th man of the year. I can't understate how great of a job he did bringing talent into here while he was running things. He had his issues but the man had a ridiculous eye for talent. I told Knick fans they have a real talented guy when he officially joined them.

I agree on Rosas: Ant, Jaden, Naz and Finch added to KAT helped build most of the house. It frustrates me when Lore and ARod claim to be the sole architects of MIN success. Gobert, Conley and Connelly are great too, but they remind me of house flippers, that buy a dilapidated property, add some high end features, and then sell the house “they built” for a big profit for themselves.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1228 » by thinktank » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:26 pm

“House flipper”. Nah.

Connelly, Gobert, Conley, and NAW are just as important as Ant, Jaden, Naz, and Finch.

Consider Ant was a good draft pick #1, while Gobert trade took great vision.

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Post#1229 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:29 pm

shrink wrote:It frustrates me when Lore and ARod claim to be the sole architects of MIN success. Gobert, Conley and Connelly are great too, but they remind me of house flippers, that buy a dilapidated property, add some high end features, and then sell the house “they built” for a big profit for themselves.

You have it backwards, in my opinion.

Rosas built on a foundation of Karl-Anthony Towns and D'Angelo Russell.
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Post#1230 » by TimberKat » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:12 pm

thinktank wrote:“House flipper”. Nah.

Connelly, Gobert, Conley, and NAW are just as important as Ant, Jaden, Naz, and Finch.

Consider Ant was a good draft pick #1, while Gobert trade took great vision.

50/50.

50/50 is about right. Didn't like the DLo trade (because we give up the #1) and Culver draft was terrible. I supposed you could say he needed Culver to bottom out and draft Ant. Vanderbilt/Beasley trade was good. Got lucky with JMcD. Could had Maxey or Quickley or Bane. Had he drafted Bane or Quickley instead of Bolmaro than I would give him a A+.
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Post#1231 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:40 pm

Yeah, not great to admit this when you're already down 2-0 in the series...

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Post#1232 » by ChipotleWest » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:42 pm

Klomp wrote:Yeah, not great to admit this when you're already down 2-0 in the series...

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#1233 » by shrink » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:46 pm

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shrink wrote:It frustrates me when Lore and ARod claim to be the sole architects of MIN success. Gobert, Conley and Connelly are great too, but they remind me of house flippers, that buy a dilapidated property, add some high end features, and then sell the house “they built” for a big profit for themselves.

You have it backwards, in my opinion.

Rosas built on a foundation of Karl-Anthony Towns and D'Angelo Russell.

And Ant, Naz, Jaden and Finch, right?

I think we kind of need those guys too,
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Post#1234 » by Shaka_Zulu » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:16 pm

Both Rosas and Conelly been fantastic assembling the core of players. Rosas with drafts (all hits except Culver and Bolmaro). And Connelly ace with trades and overall deals (his only draftee Leonard Miller doesn't play yet).


But Rosas was a toxic work place influence with the sex scandal, so he had to go. He blew his opportunity. And we bounced back well with TC, who genuinely seems to have sound plan of how to assemble a contender.
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Post#1235 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:21 pm

Klomp wrote:Yeah, not great to admit this when you're already down 2-0 in the series...

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Post#1236 » by ChipotleWest » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:30 pm

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Klomp wrote:Yeah, not great to admit this when you're already down 2-0 in the series...

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Oh at first that tweet wouldn't load I didn't realize he said that in 2022. I was like uhh not really. Today's Suns is more like "is it your turn? Or my turn?" They don't even have a point guard.
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Post#1238 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:41 pm

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I just realized, that was the same night as this gem!

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Post#1239 » by shrink » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:05 am

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Hilarious! I don’t think I ever saw that.

It say something about Russell’s defensive impact that the announcers didn’t even notice!

Used to MIN defending 4-on-5, even when he’s on the floor?
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Post#1240 » by wolves_89 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:31 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Both Rosas and Conelly been fantastic assembling the core of players. Rosas with drafts (all hits except Culver and Bolmaro). And Connelly ace with trades and overall deals (his only draftee Leonard Miller doesn't play yet).


I would rate Rosas as a mid tier GM due to the extreme hit an miss record he compiled. In terms of the draft, he hit on Ant, McDaniels, and Reid and missed on Culver, Balmaro, and the 2021 draft (lost a mid lottery pick and an early 2nd to acquire DLO).

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