2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs. #6 Phoenix Suns (MIN SWEEPS 4-0)

MavsDirk41 · Post #641 » by **MavsDirk41** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:26 pm

Minnesota in 6

They have too much size and defense for Phoenix

jkvonny · Post #642 » by **jkvonny** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:27 pm

Impressive win for Minny!

Patches Perry · Post #643 » by **Patches Perry** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:28 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love some of the suns fans on this board but I told
Them this isn’t a good deal for them . Not a single wiz fan was mad at seeing beal leave…

Beal isn't even a 2nd option here, he put up 15 points on 10 shots, solid, not great.

Beal wasn't the issue this game, wasn't the answer either.

What does Beal bring if only scores 15 points? You understand how much of their cap Beal takes for 15 points lol

You're both right in a sense, it's more of a management failure. This is why I'm always skeptical of the 3rd (offensive) superstar. Big threes where all three are primarily offensive stars have severe diminishing returns for the 3rd guy. The ideal mix imo is two superstars plus a 3rd defensive superstar, or a bunch of really good utility/3&D players. Beal was an awful guy to trade for. They should have targeted defensive and shooting with that space/capital.

CobraCommander · Post #644 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:28 pm

AleksandarN wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love some of the suns fans on this board but I told
Them this isn’t a good deal for them . Not a single wiz fan was mad at seeing beal leave…

Beal isn't even a 2nd option here, he put up 15 points on 10 shots, solid, not great.

Beal wasn't the issue this game, wasn't the answer either.

For his salary he better be. The Suns didn’t trade for Beal to put up 15 pts.

Beal is 53 mil for 15 points in a playoff game -

CobraCommander · Post #645 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:30 pm

Patches Perry wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
Beal isn't even a 2nd option here, he put up 15 points on 10 shots, solid, not great.

Beal wasn't the issue this game, wasn't the answer either.

What does Beal bring if only scores 15 points? You understand how much of their cap Beal takes for 15 points lol

You're both right in a sense, it's more of a management failure. This is why I'm always skeptical of the 3rd (offensive) superstar. Big threes where all three are primarily offensive stars have severe diminishing returns for the 3rd guy. The ideal mix imo is two superstars plus a 3rd defensive superstar, or a bunch of really good utility/3&D players. Beal was an awful signing. They should have targeted defensive and shooting with that space/capital.

Beal can’t be a primary ball handler, can’t guard his position, is undersized and is giving you 15 points for 53
Mil…. Naw bro - that’s not good

shrink · Post #646 » by **shrink** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:32 pm

jkvonny wrote:Even Luka Garza gettin in on the action lol

I feel like if the NBA announces a new award for “The Most Recognized Player You Forgot is in the NBA,” Luka Garza is a lock.

Scoundreldays · Post #647 » by **Scoundreldays** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:32 pm

Congrats Wolves, you have a fun team to watch

Vampirate · Post #648 » by **Vampirate** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:32 pm

AleksandarN wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love some of the suns fans on this board but I told
Them this isn’t a good deal for them . Not a single wiz fan was mad at seeing beal leave…

Beal isn't even a 2nd option here, he put up 15 points on 10 shots, solid, not great.

Beal wasn't the issue this game, wasn't the answer either.

For his salary he better be. The Suns didn’t trade for Beal to put up 15 pts.

He will never live up to that contract unless he helps bring the Suns to a championship, and those odds are low due to the Suns roster construction.

Even if he put up 22 points today, he'd still not be worth it.

shrink · Post #649 » by **shrink** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:33 pm

Wolves defense held another team to under 100, which is a big accomplishment against Durant and the Suns.

Vampirate · Post #650 » by **Vampirate** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:35 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I love some of the suns fans on this board but I told
Them this isn’t a good deal for them . Not a single wiz fan was mad at seeing beal leave…

Beal isn't even a 2nd option here, he put up 15 points on 10 shots, solid, not great.

Beal wasn't the issue this game, wasn't the answer either.

What does Beal bring if only scores 15 points? You understand how much of their cap Beal takes for 15 points lol

Well I just said he wasn't the answer lol. Not the biggest issue today, but still one.

mako · Post #651 » by **mako** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:35 pm

Wonder if the suns should just blow it up if they don't advance through the first round. Get back what they can by trading away beal and durant.

Phystic · Post #652 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:36 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:
Phystic wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:

Yeah I was about to say , he was top 3 player entire playoffs last season? Only behind Jokic and Murray.

Another blind Booker hater.

I mean there's thing you can critique Booker for, like he isn't a frigging PG at all (not his fault), and is major **** talking front runner at times (his fault lol).

But as a player? He is a walking bucket. Is a flame thrower in playoffs.

Sure he's not perfect by any means. But people just hate on him in general for ridiculous reasons

tmorgan · Post #653 » by **tmorgan** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:38 pm

mako wrote:Wonder if the suns should just blow it up if they don't advance through the first round. Get back what they can by trading away beal and durant.

Lolz at “what they can get” for Beal.

#1 He has a full NTC
#2 What they’d get is a couple first round picks… taken from them

EDIT: I should add that Beal + Durant is somewhat positive package, but who can take 100+ million in 30-something scorers? Nobody.

JustBuzzin · Post #654 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:45 pm

Damn I had PHX in the upset.

KD really fell off man. No excuses why he keeps failing with the talented teams he's played for. PHX got to the Finals with a aging CP3. KD has to do better.

CobraCommander · Post #655 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:51 pm

tmorgan wrote:Beal isn’t cooked. But the oven is warming and he’s covered in butter.

Trading for that contract has Ishiba’s fingerprints all over it.

lol - covered in butter….

That’s a new way to say someone is at the end of their career - “dude covered in butter”

Post #656 » by **G R E Y** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:52 pm

Had to miss this game.

Wow Wolves!

Convincing W.

Good start.

Bourne85 · Post #657 » by **Bourne85** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:54 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Damn I had PHX in the upset.

KD really fell off man. No excuses why he keeps failing with the talented teams he's played for. PHX got to the Finals with a aging CP3. KD has to do better.

Literally was in a perfect situation in Golden State. Him and Curry could’ve been winning titles for many consecutive years. Instead he got in his feelings thanks to Draymond and the fans making fun of him for joining Curry and now he will never win again. Dumb as rocks

Phystic · Post #658 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:55 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Damn I had PHX in the upset.

KD really fell off man. No excuses why he keeps failing with the talented teams he's played for. PHX got to the Finals with a aging CP3. KD has to do better.

blaming KD when he's the only Suns player that showed up

Last Guardian · Post #659 » by **Last Guardian** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:57 pm

How was your real NBA game? Lol. Blow out. How exciting

CobraCommander · Post #660 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:58 pm

Bourne85 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Damn I had PHX in the upset.

KD really fell off man. No excuses why he keeps failing with the talented teams he's played for. PHX got to the Finals with a aging CP3. KD has to do better.

Literally was in a perfect situation in Golden State. Him and Curry could’ve been winning titles for many consecutive years. Instead he got in his feelings thanks to Draymond and the fans making fun of him for joining Curry and now he will never win again. Dumb as rocks

Kd trades curry and Klay for harden and kyrie and then Booker and Beal - at some point we gotta accept that KD ain’t that guy-

Curry got a chip with and without KD and KD has played with way more talent than Curry.

KD is not a top 20 all time player - fight me- but given the talent kd has played with post GSW, Giannis and Jokic and damn near anyone else would have more rings -

Winner