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Mavrelous wrote:Don't know if it was posted, but Jokic finally converted Nick Wright
LaLover11 wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:LaLover11 wrote:
Spencer or Gabe have to score lol
Or should the Lakers keep doing the same thing from the past 10 games and keep losing?
Maybe just maybe make adjustments, might be a good thing to give yourself a chance
Nothing wrong with fans trying to think of possible adjustments to give their team an advantage. It's when you say stuff like...If Lakers protect home court they will win this series
and then suggest Spencer Dinwiddie can help do that, non-Lakers fans feel you need a reality check.
I'm not telling you to give up hope, I'm telling you that the Lakers aren't one adjustment away from turning this series around. They're making significant adjustments every game. They're playing a superior opponent that has massive advantages against them. I actually admire the how the Lakers are playing. They show up to every Nuggets game and execute their gameplan extremely well. You can tell the players are locked in, high effort, and high-execution.
There will be new adjustments next game too. Maybe even ones that get Dinwiddie going. I just think you should be talking about winning a single game or making the series competitive instead of being like: this is how the Lakers win (against a team that has beaten them 10 times in a row).
I dunno. When I was watching my T-Wolves in the early 2000s get eliminated in the first round by the Spurs, Lakers, Mavs... I was never like "if we can just get Kendall Gill going we got this". I knew we had almost zero chance. I hoped to make it a competitive series (we made it to 6 games against the Lakers in 2003!) and also hoped for a flat out miracle.
Seeing Lakers fans treat this series like they can win without a miracle is hard to take seriously. You're a play-in team playing the defending champs. The team that swept you last year in the playoffs, then swept you in the regular season, and has won 10 straight games against you.
I'm not saying you can't possibly win. I think it requires something closer to a miracle than a Spencer Dinwiddie based adjustment.
Spencer would be the miracle... That's the point
Just like Christian Braun is that little bit of random offense and energy the nuggets get from him.
Woods would be the other miracle like I've mentioned
Vando coming back and helping guard Porter Jr or Murray would be a big miracle that could help change the series, Gabe also needs to stop thinking and shoot!
4 potential miracles right there, if one or two come true
Well that's what would push Lakers to protect home court because most likely " role players " play better at their Home Arena vs being at the defending champs arena with high altitude disadvantage!
This very moment the Lakers and Nuggets are 1-1 in Playoff Series vs each others, Both won a Ring
It's a lot closer than people keep making it
Don't bring up Regular Season Games
Lakers we're up both games and keep getting tired
Only realistic option would be to have help off the bench
You can't expect to play LeBron and AD 48 Minutes
LaLover11 wrote:mademan wrote:Lakers shouldnt even be playing to win anymore. Just play for pride man
Getting swept b2b years by the same team (and swept in the RS in between) is embarrassing as hell.
If Lakers protect home court they will win this series
Spencer Dinwiddie average 17PPG in the 2023 season.
He needs to start scoring and give up this Defender role with the Lakers, if they really want to win
Donuts83 wrote:Alatan wrote:perempe20 wrote:I was only criticizing Jokic's defense
That was not on Jokics defense. No player in the league could stop AD from making those mid range jumpers, turnaround jumpers and hooks. Maybe Wemby, but thats not a fair comparison to anyone. It had nothing to do with Jokic. Even if Jokic played him tighter he would risk getting into foul trouble and we all know how big of a flopper AD is and how easy the LA whistle is.
AD was just in the Zone and then he cooled off after sitting on the bench for too long. Playing 40 minutes on altitude might have also played a part.
Let's be real. Jokic has no chance against AD. They have to put Gordon on him and have Jokic help thats the reality. Jokic is not a defensive player. Ad can get face ups, hooks and middies whenever he wants against Jokic. LOL. This series has come down to the role players and coaching like I knew it would. Denver trust the role players to contribute the lakers dont. It's that simple.
Sgt Major wrote:Donuts83 wrote:Alatan wrote:
That was not on Jokics defense. No player in the league could stop AD from making those mid range jumpers, turnaround jumpers and hooks. Maybe Wemby, but thats not a fair comparison to anyone. It had nothing to do with Jokic. Even if Jokic played him tighter he would risk getting into foul trouble and we all know how big of a flopper AD is and how easy the LA whistle is.
AD was just in the Zone and then he cooled off after sitting on the bench for too long. Playing 40 minutes on altitude might have also played a part.
Let's be real. Jokic has no chance against AD. They have to put Gordon on him and have Jokic help thats the reality. Jokic is not a defensive player. Ad can get face ups, hooks and middies whenever he wants against Jokic. LOL. This series has come down to the role players and coaching like I knew it would. Denver trust the role players to contribute the lakers dont. It's that simple.
This ain't about role players. AD had a great game, but he was outplayed by Jokic in the end. LeBron as well. Even Nick Wright said it.
Role players are complimentary pieces, but Denver's main guy is better than anyone on the Lakers and that's the series.
Duke4life831 wrote:perempe20 wrote:BelgradeNugget wrote:Aren't midrange shots the least valuable shots in the game? Nuggets defensive schemes are based on letting Davis shoot those shots, the same as with Bam last year in the finals.
AD shooting in the playoffs against Denver 2023
in the paint (non-ra) 48.0%
mid-range 36.4%
AD shooting in regular season 2023-24
in the paint (non-ra) 43.3%
mid-range 37.5%
AD shooting in regular season against Denver 2023-24
in the paint (non-ra) 36.4%
mid-range 25.0%
AD shooting in the playoffs against Denver 2024
in the paint (non-ra) 57.9%
mid-range 83.3%
Last game
in the paint (non-ra) 80%
mid-range 75%
I see a lot of open midrange shots for AD in next games, and I'm 100% sure he wont be shooting them 80%/75%
I agree, but look at those wide open shots! They are good shots in the playoffs.
I mean Im sure that was the gameplan and will continue to be the gameplan. Denver gave up 103 points and 99 points in the first 2 games. And that is with AD shooting well above his normal ability from the mid range game.
Denver had the same gameplan last year in the finals against Bam. Bam scored at least 20 points in every game in the Finals last year. Miami only scored in the triple digits 1 time in the 5 games. Denver wasnt just going to live with Bam taking a high volume of open mid range shots, they were hoping Bam would continue to do so.
AD taking a bunch of open mid range shots is only a positive for Denver and exactly what they want.
1st, AD isnt Dirk or KD when it comes to the mid range. Dude is an average mid range jump shooter. So he's bound to come back down to earth, even if he doesnt again look at the scoring by LA so far in the series as a team, they havent been lighting it up.
2nd, it saves Jokic energy on defense and it keeps him from foul trouble.
perempe20 wrote:I like Jokic, but his defensive shortcomings were exposed in the first half. I mean those open mid-range shots. They were great plays for the Lakers, I don't know why did not run those plays later.
jigga_man wrote:17ppg Dinwiddie will be unleashed and tie up the series 2-2 going back to Denver. All pressure will be on the Nuggets
"The film session was very revealing with which side of the ball we struggled at," Lakers coach Darvin Ham said. "We were great defensively. Offensively, there was a lot of shots we wish we could have back."
Ham said he likes using film sessions to grow as a team because it removes the "postgame emotions" that can skew the perception of what occurred.
Tommy Heinsohn wrote:The game is not over until they look you in the face and start crying.
OriginalRed wrote:Some people might not remember but Game 3 is where Jokic picked up 4 fouls (I wonder why) so I'd be watchful of the officiating tonight. I'm expecting some home cooking tonight for the purple and gold, we'll just if it'll matter when it comes to the Nuggets.
