2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls

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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#21 » by Michael Jackson » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:24 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Pulling for Bulls, that fanbase deserves something decent, very mediocre team and their management is dumb not to tank, but hey, they refuse to do it, so might as well reward them for it, basketball gods...



I don’t know that getting a worse pick and getting swept by Boston is something decent lol.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#22 » by UcanUwill » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:38 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:Pulling for Bulls, that fanbase deserves something decent, very mediocre team and their management is dumb not to tank, but hey, they refuse to do it, so might as well reward them for it, basketball gods...



I don’t know that getting a worse pick and getting swept by Boston is something decent lol.

Take what you can get. You want yo be a play off team over 2 slot higher pick in a draft where no one agrees even within themselves of which order these crapshoot prospects should go.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#23 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:42 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Pulling for Bulls, that fanbase deserves something decent, very mediocre team and their management is dumb not to tank, but hey, they refuse to do it, so might as well reward them for it, basketball gods...



I don’t know that getting a worse pick and getting swept by Boston is something decent lol.

Take what you can get. You want yo be a play off team over 2 slot higher pick in a draft where no one agrees even within themselves of which order these crapshoot prospects should go.



a playoff team is better, I agree.

Its easier to get FAs etc.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#24 » by JXL » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:53 pm

I'll hold trepidation on my pick until I know about Butler's MRI. If he's not playing, Bulls take this.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#25 » by Bloodbather » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:24 pm

knicksNOTslick wrote:Rooting for the Bulls because it seems like all the casual fans and the media overrate the Heat with all their culture talk and how they can just always turn it on in the playoffs. Doesn't always work.


The culture talk is a cliché at this point but it's true. There aren't a lot of organizations with the consistent structure and identity of the Heat over long term, it's basically just them and the Spurs. They definitely have an identifiably specific approach.

Them turning it on for the postseason is simply a fact, they've made the Finals as a #5 seed and a #8 seed in two of the last four seasons, and it's common knowledge that Jimmy Butler takes the RS less seriously.

That it doesn't always work is true, though, and as a Heat fan, I am pretty annoyed that we always play this "doesn't matter who the opponent is" angle to excuse not trying to get an advantage in the RS. Love Jimmy, but he does need to get his head out of his behind about this.
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Post#26 » by ChipotleWest » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:26 pm

Both Butler and Caruso are hurt.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#27 » by Profound23 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:28 pm

ChipotleWest wrote:Both Butler and Caruso are hurt.


With all of the injuries in the East, I don't see anyone beating Boston. If they can't win it this year then just give up.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#28 » by JXL » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:34 pm

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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#29 » by titlebound1 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:40 pm

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knicksNOTslick wrote:Rooting for the Bulls because it seems like all the casual fans and the media overrate the Heat with all their culture talk and how they can just always turn it on in the playoffs. Doesn't always work.


The culture talk is a cliché at this point but it's true. There aren't a lot of organizations with the consistent structure and identity of the Heat over long term, it's basically just them and the Spurs. They definitely have an identifiably specific approach.

Them turning it on for the postseason is simply a fact, they've made the Finals as a #5 seed and a #8 seed in two of the last four seasons, and it's common knowledge that Jimmy Butler takes the RS less seriously.

That it doesn't always work is true, though, and as a Heat fan, I am pretty annoyed that we always play this "doesn't matter who the opponent is" angle to excuse not trying to get an advantage in the RS. Love Jimmy, but he does need to get his head out of his behind about this.


Comparing "heat culture" to what the spurs did is just hilarious. They made one real finals and one mickey mouse tournament finals. Nothing about that bubble playoffs was legitimate.

The reason why they're always competitive is pretty simple. They have a great coach. But that can only get you so far. They can't win a title with butler as their best player
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#30 » by Harry Garris » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:43 pm

vxmike wrote:Butler is out. The Bulls might actually luck into #8. They will get absolutely slaughtered by Boston!


Every eastern conference team is getting beat down by Boston this year my guy. They just had the third most dominant regular season by net rating in NBA history, and this is a year where the eastern conference doesn’t have any other great teams. I would not be that surprised if Boston goes 12-0.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#31 » by DBurks2818 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:49 pm

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knicksNOTslick wrote:Rooting for the Bulls because it seems like all the casual fans and the media overrate the Heat with all their culture talk and how they can just always turn it on in the playoffs. Doesn't always work.


The culture talk is a cliché at this point but it's true. There aren't a lot of organizations with the consistent structure and identity of the Heat over long term, it's basically just them and the Spurs. They definitely have an identifiably specific approach.

Them turning it on for the postseason is simply a fact, they've made the Finals as a #5 seed and a #8 seed in two of the last four seasons, and it's common knowledge that Jimmy Butler takes the RS less seriously.

That it doesn't always work is true, though, and as a Heat fan, I am pretty annoyed that we always play this "doesn't matter who the opponent is" angle to excuse not trying to get an advantage in the RS. Love Jimmy, but he does need to get his head out of his behind about this.


Comparing "heat culture" to what the spurs did is just hilarious. They made one real finals and one mickey mouse tournament finals. Nothing about that bubble playoffs was legitimate.

The reason why they're always competitive is pretty simple. They have a great coach. But that can only get you so far. They can't win a title with butler as their best player


This is silly. The Heat have made the finals just as many times the Spurs have and with just as any hall of famers.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#32 » by titlebound1 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:57 pm

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titlebound1 wrote:
Bloodbather wrote:
The culture talk is a cliché at this point but it's true. There aren't a lot of organizations with the consistent structure and identity of the Heat over long term, it's basically just them and the Spurs. They definitely have an identifiably specific approach.

Them turning it on for the postseason is simply a fact, they've made the Finals as a #5 seed and a #8 seed in two of the last four seasons, and it's common knowledge that Jimmy Butler takes the RS less seriously.

That it doesn't always work is true, though, and as a Heat fan, I am pretty annoyed that we always play this "doesn't matter who the opponent is" angle to excuse not trying to get an advantage in the RS. Love Jimmy, but he does need to get his head out of his behind about this.


Comparing "heat culture" to what the spurs did is just hilarious. They made one real finals and one mickey mouse tournament finals. Nothing about that bubble playoffs was legitimate.

The reason why they're always competitive is pretty simple. They have a great coach. But that can only get you so far. They can't win a title with butler as their best player


This is silly. The Heat have made the finals just as many times the Spurs have and with just as any hall of famers.


The heat were able to sign LeBron James and Chris Bosh because they play in Miami. That's literally the only reason. The spurs drafted insanely well and built the franchise up from nothing and sustained it for nearly 20 years. They also played in a conference that was WAY more loaded. Who was Miami's biggest road block? The over the hill big 3 Celtics?

The two organizations are not comparable. One builds super stars and great role players. The other signs guys who want to hang out with Instagram models on the beach
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#33 » by gardenofsound » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:17 pm

With the way the Bulls have developed this season, I am hopeful that they win this game and get a little bit of playoff experience for Coby and Ayo. They are the future of the team at this point, and both have taken HUGE steps forward this year. They're about the only reason to be excited as Bulls fans. Neither are All Star level, but both are starting to show that type of potential, and both seem to be hard workers with the potential to take over games when necessary.

Those are the types of young players for whom playoff experience really matters.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#34 » by 3ddman23 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:24 pm

Bloodbather wrote:
knicksNOTslick wrote:Rooting for the Bulls because it seems like all the casual fans and the media overrate the Heat with all their culture talk and how they can just always turn it on in the playoffs. Doesn't always work.


The culture talk is a cliché at this point but it's true. There aren't a lot of organizations with the consistent structure and identity of the Heat over long term, it's basically just them and the Spurs. They definitely have an identifiably specific approach.

Them turning it on for the postseason is simply a fact, they've made the Finals as a #5 seed and a #8 seed in two of the last four seasons, and it's common knowledge that Jimmy Butler takes the RS less seriously.

That it doesn't always work is true, though, and as a Heat fan, I am pretty annoyed that we always play this "doesn't matter who the opponent is" angle to excuse not trying to get an advantage in the RS. Love Jimmy, but he does need to get his head out of his behind about this.


But to go along with that the heat also got beat down in 2021 by the bucks in the first round, lost to the younger Celtics in 2022 in the ecf as the #1 seed and have the potential to miss the playoffs here in 2024...

There two finals runs where cool, but there were under some pretty extreme circumstances. The bubble in 2020 was like a an aau tournament. Seeding didn't matter that year. There was no carry over from the real season, no fans, no real fatigue of an nba season. Any one could have made that finals if they played good ball at the right moment. It just happened to be miami ( and the Lakers).

2023 was on the back of some extreme hot shooting games. They had one of the best 3 point shooting performances in nba playoff history in some of those series. And That was off the back of being one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the regular season. All while nearly getting bounced in the play In by chicago. If thats not lighting in a bottle then I'm not sure what is.

Look miami without question has an identity they play hard, scrappy and spolstra is a great coach. But the heat culture thing and people thinking they can turn it on when ever they want in the playoffs and jhst waltz there way into an nba finals is extremely overblown.

In all, none of it has resulted in a championship. Which to heat fans and the organization, I assume is the end game.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#35 » by jc23 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:26 pm

Bulls were up on miami in last years play in before miami turned it up. Im actually glad they beat us as no way was Chicago making the finals. This year without Jimmy i hope Chicago advances. Caruso will probably be back at some point and id like the Chicago young guys to get some playoff experience vs a possible championship team.
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Post#36 » by SacTown Kings » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:36 pm

I enjoy watching Drummond play so go Bulls!!
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Post#37 » by DOT » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:40 pm

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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#38 » by azcatz11 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:55 pm

I could see this being the Tyler Herro game...it will obviously depend on his performance for the Heat to win. The Heat can't generate any offense without him. Hopefully there are a few women in Miami who can help him before the game get loose...if you know what I mean
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#39 » by jc23 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:40 pm

The heat w/o Butler will still have a way better defense then what Chicago saw with Atlanta.
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Re: 2024 Play-In Tournament (East): #8 Miami Heat vs #9 Chicago Bulls 

Post#40 » by Bornstellar » Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:50 pm

Rooting for Chicago and I think Jimmy being out gives them a good chance of winning. Would be nice if they can make the playoffs and at least steal a game from Boston so that their FO doesn't decide to blow it up making their top-10 protected pick to SA next season more likely to convey :)

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