Could the Heat pull off an upset

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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#81 » by NyKnicks1714 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:34 pm

No probably not. Shameful loss for Boston but they'll win the series. Miami is tougher, plays much harder, is better coached, but the talent differential is too much for them to overcome. There's never been an upset where the talent gap between the favorite and the underdog was this great, and it's not happening this season.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#82 » by DwayneSchintzus » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:36 pm

according to Bontemps, the Celtics statistical profile is on par with the '96 Bulls.

Did you see the '96 Bulls last night?
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#83 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:29 pm

tcheco wrote:for me is kinda crazy that Tatum and Brown can't carry a team having a bad game with Jrue and KP against the heat missing Butler and Rozier.
Your best player taking only 20 shots in a loss is... underwhelming. Brown scoring 33 in 23 shot being a -22... crazy
That -22 is meaningless if you actually know how it is applied in games.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#84 » by tcheco » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:32 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:for me is kinda crazy that Tatum and Brown can't carry a team having a bad game with Jrue and KP against the heat missing Butler and Rozier.
Your best player taking only 20 shots in a loss is... underwhelming. Brown scoring 33 in 23 shot being a -22... crazy
That -22 is meaningless if you actually know how it is applied in games.


It can be both meaningless and a bit crazy. We don't have to be 100% serious all the time.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#85 » by Yoshun » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:33 pm

Shaq is starting to look not so crazy.....

The answer is no, not without Jimmy Butler. The Celtics are the better team. They lost this game, they may even lose another, but they'll win the series.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#86 » by liquidswords » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:37 pm

ONLY if they shoot lights out for 3 more games lol. Boston just doesn't have the motor of a champion. So much talent but they don't bring it every night for a full 48
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#87 » by Lalouie » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:09 pm

maybe if they had rozier
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#88 » by King4Day » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:19 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
King4Day wrote:Very tough to beat hot shooting. Unless Miami can repeat this multiple times, I still see Boston in 5.


Isn't that exactly what Miami did last year?


I still don't see 23 3's as the norm. The Suns did something similar in game 2 against the Bucks in the finals. They played poorly (IMO), but the hot shooting allowed them to win. They didn't sniff that the rest of the series.
Just not easy to sustain that many makes.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#89 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:23 pm

tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:for me is kinda crazy that Tatum and Brown can't carry a team having a bad game with Jrue and KP against the heat missing Butler and Rozier.
Your best player taking only 20 shots in a loss is... underwhelming. Brown scoring 33 in 23 shot being a -22... crazy
That -22 is meaningless if you actually know how it is applied in games.


It can be both meaningless and a bit crazy. We don't have to be 100% serious all the time.
Basically all starters from losing team has a -negative and if they lose by double digits, that -neg # goes up. That's why it's meaningless. Bench players may factor in more as specialist to do one task well.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#90 » by kingr » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:26 pm

Nope not without jimmy.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#91 » by tcheco » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:28 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:That -22 is meaningless if you actually know how it is applied in games.


It can be both meaningless and a bit crazy. We don't have to be 100% serious all the time.
Basically all starters from losing team has a -negative and if they lose by double digits, that -neg # goes up. That's why it's meaningless. Bench players may factor in more as specialist to do one task well.

Aparently we do have to be 100% serious all the time

I know how +/- works

good to see Jrue playing the same ammount of minutes as Brown as a starter as well and have a +10 scoring 9 points only on 12 shots and brown having -22 scoring 33 in 23 shot, in a 10 point defeat.

It's crazy, and meaningless, hooray, let people have fun
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#92 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:28 pm

Yoshun wrote:Shaq is starting to look not so crazy.....

The answer is no, not without Jimmy Butler. The Celtics are the better team. They lost this game, they may even lose another, but they'll win the series.


Overuse of pronouns makes comments confusing like you are doing. They lost game and they may lose another but they will win series?!?!?! Only you know who "they" are, not the rest of us unless too lazy to type C's or Heat.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#93 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:41 pm

tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:
It can be both meaningless and a bit crazy. We don't have to be 100% serious all the time.
Basically all starters from losing team has a -negative and if they lose by double digits, that -neg # goes up. That's why it's meaningless. Bench players may factor in more as specialist to do one task well.

Aparently we do have to be 100% serious all the time

I know how +/- works

good to see Jrue playing the same ammount of minutes as Brown as a starter as well and have a +10 scoring 9 points only on 12 shots and brown having -22 scoring 33 in 23 shot, in a 10 point defeat.

It's crazy, and meaningless, hooray, let people have fun
D White was -23 while Holiday was +10, so what does that tell you?

Nothing unless you think Holiday's inefficient scoring was not the reason why the C's lost just because he was able to locked up the guy he was guarding while Brown and White did not?!?

Lol that's why I don't even bother with the +/-
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#94 » by tcheco » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:45 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:Basically all starters from losing team has a -negative and if they lose by double digits, that -neg # goes up. That's why it's meaningless. Bench players may factor in more as specialist to do one task well.

Aparently we do have to be 100% serious all the time

I know how +/- works

good to see Jrue playing the same ammount of minutes as Brown as a starter as well and have a +10 scoring 9 points only on 12 shots and brown having -22 scoring 33 in 23 shot, in a 10 point defeat.

It's crazy, and meaningless, hooray, let people have fun
D White was -23 while Holiday was +10, so what does that tell you?

Nothing unless you think Holiday's inefficient scoring was not the reason why the C's lost just because he was able to locked up the guy he was guarding while Brown and White did not?!?

Lol


I agreed it's meaningless, from post one, not sure why you seem so mad. Have a good day kid
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#95 » by Jabroni Lames » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:51 pm

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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#96 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:55 pm

tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:Aparently we do have to be 100% serious all the time

I know how +/- works

good to see Jrue playing the same ammount of minutes as Brown as a starter as well and have a +10 scoring 9 points only on 12 shots and brown having -22 scoring 33 in 23 shot, in a 10 point defeat.

It's crazy, and meaningless, hooray, let people have fun
D White was -23 while Holiday was +10, so what does that tell you?

Nothing unless you think Holiday's inefficient scoring was not the reason why the C's lost just because he was able to locked up the guy he was guarding while Brown and White did not?!?

Lol


I agreed it's meaningless, from post one, not sure why you seem so mad. Have a good day kid
Just wish posters stop using that kind of stat as key reasoning why a team lost especially when using it to blame players. It has nothing to do with making smart or dumb plays aka decisions which are more of a factor. AR has a crazy high IQ playing this game which is why he is an untouchable for me, but idiot posters blame him for losing games based on his boxscore and create threads confused by the hype and want him traded Lol

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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#97 » by tcheco » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:01 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
tcheco wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:D White was -23 while Holiday was +10, so what does that tell you?

Nothing unless you think Holiday's inefficient scoring was not the reason why the C's lost just because he was able to locked up the guy he was guarding while Brown and White did not?!?

Lol


I agreed it's meaningless, from post one, not sure why you seem so mad. Have a good day kid
Just wish posters stop using that kind of stat as key reasoning why a team lost especially when using it to blame players. It just has nothing to do with makng or dumb plays aka decisions which is more of a factor. It's why AR has a high IQ playing this game as why he is an untouchable for me but many posters blame him for losing games and creating threads confused by the hype and want him traded Lol

Enjoy the games tonight!


I didn't meant to blame anyone, I trully found it crazy just looking at random stats from the game haha. Would never blame a player for the reason someone lost, specially if I didn't watch the game at all.

Some people just like to post random things, but I understand that some people will try to throw some random stats to try to blame someone for a loss.

I'm sure not missing the denver a la games tonight, should be fun
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#98 » by shi-woo » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:24 pm

I mean Boston literally let MIA shoot uncontested 3s all night. They didn't close out, they didn't put their hands up to contest, and they didn't even go through their rotations for half those makes. It was just a weird game, Boston was content not doing anything all game.

That's where losing Ime as a coach really hurt this team, he would have lit a fire under their ass. This is also the type of game where us Marcus Smart fans miss his leadership. Celtics were content with just phoning it in for a game, and that's kind of unacceptable, especially so early in the series. Losing 1 of 2 at home is an absolute backbreaker, and you need to come out now and put the clamps on them in MIA.

I have no idea what the Celtics game plan last night was. They were running a defense you would expect to see from a team going up against a 23 year old LeBron, not a team full of dudes who can only shoot 3s. It was so confusing, and reminded me of Game 1 of the Finals where Celtics essentially gave up before the game even started by deciding to go drop coverage of Steph Curry :lol:

IDK why Celtic coaches continue to get cute with their defensive gameplans, it bites us every single year.

Celtics in 6, and this better be a wake up call to 2nd Row Joe.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#99 » by advent11 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:38 pm

This would probably be the greatest upset in sports history if they pulled it off. Up there with Douglas over Tyson.
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Re: Could the Heat pull off an upset 

Post#100 » by docholliday99 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:08 pm

advent11 wrote:This would probably be the greatest upset in sports history if they pulled it off. Up there with Douglas over Tyson.


Maybe but the Heat are a really good team. I'd say the '07 series upset of #8 GSW over #1 Dallas or when the #8 Nuggets took down #1 Seattle in '96 - sadly, I remember watching that lol.

Maybe on par with last years #8 Heat taking down the #1 Bucks.

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