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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#161 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:03 am

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kveble wrote:LOL it`s an obvious flop. He pushes backwards with his legs.



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Watch gain, Embiid drives, Robinson either slips or flops, and twists his ankle on Donte DiVincenzo's shoe. The board doesn't even have it right, but w/e, never let facts get in the way of a good story.


I got confused. I somehow thought you meant that he didn't flop in the other situation.

You might be right about this one, but it's not that clear either. Embiid just stops taking steps forward and falls down. He's trying to lean on Robinson, who's in the air atm.
It's the play he actually got injured. Not the first one. Leaning? It's basketball not golf. That's how every player in the league initiates a drive or draws contact.

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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#162 » by kveble » Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:29 am

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Watch gain, Embiid drives, Robinson either slips or flops, and twists his ankle on Donte DiVincenzo's shoe. The board doesn't even have it right, but w/e, never let facts get in the way of a good story.


I got confused. I somehow thought you meant that he didn't flop in the other situation.

You might be right about this one, but it's not that clear either. Embiid just stops taking steps forward and falls down. He's trying to lean on Robinson, who's in the air atm.
It's the play he actually got injured. Not the first one. Leaning? It's basketball not golf. That's how every player in the league initiates a drive or draws contact.

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Tell me what makes Embiid fall down?
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#163 » by ChuckyFE » Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:33 am

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every time i watch it it gets worse

Not just the grabbing of the legs, but the way he tried to throw Mitch as he's falling back down. It's a total Embiitch move. Hoping karma catches up to him, real quick.
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Post#164 » by Exp0sed » Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:48 am

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every time i watch it it gets worse

Not just the grabbing of the legs, but the way he tried to throw Mitch as he's falling back down. It's a total Embiitch move. Hoping karma catches up to him, real quick.


can't believe this discussion with the Joe L stans is still ongoing

I really can't think of a bigger Embiitch move than this one, even Dray has never done anything this bad
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#165 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:02 pm

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LOL, that **** was indisputable. The Knicks were 100% not supposed to win that game. In 99.999% of all other instances the Sixers would have won.

The two are not the same. Embiid didn't try to hurt someone, that is actually up for debate. As I said he was being dirty. That IMO is not debatable.


What is actually indisputable is that Embiid DID try to injure Robinson. You don't bear hug someone's legs without the intent to injure them. You do it with intent to harm. Period.
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That is not an argument at all, my friend. There is really no argument that can defend this bearhug. None. It was a dirty play with intent to harm.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

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What is actually indisputable is that Embiid DID try to injure Robinson. You don't bear hug someone's legs without the intent to injure them. You do it with intent to harm. Period.
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That is not an argument at all, my friend. There is really no argument that can defend this bearhug. None. It was a dirty play with intent to harm.
Prove to my he tried to hurt him. He pulled him down to protect himself. It was reckless and stupid no doubt. Yeah it was dirty. But knowing the psychology of people generally when you are always suffering injuries I find it very hard to believe he wants others to get hurt as well.

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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#167 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:11 pm

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That is not an argument at all, my friend. There is really no argument that can defend this bearhug. None. It was a dirty play with intent to harm.
Prove to my he tried to hurt him. He pulled him down to protect himself. It was reckless and stupid no doubt. Yeah it was dirty. But knowing the psychology of people generally when you are always suffering injuries I find it very hard to believe he wants others to get hurt as well.

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#168 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:18 pm

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That is not an argument at all, my friend. There is really no argument that can defend this bearhug. None. It was a dirty play with intent to harm.
Prove to my he tried to hurt him. He pulled him down to protect himself. It was reckless and stupid no doubt. Yeah it was dirty. But knowing the psychology of people generally when you are always suffering injuries I find it very hard to believe he wants others to get hurt as well.

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.



And as I've said before emotions go the better of him. He basically said dont' even come close to landing on me, I'm going to get you the **** out of the way, even if I have to throw you off me. Very risky, with a high likeliness to hurt someone. That doesn't mean that he wanted to hurt him. That means he was dealing with enough **** that he had a brain fart. What **** was he dealing with? Injured leg, paralysed face, team facing a 3-0 hole, the continuous talk about him coming up small in the playoffs. It's inexcusable, doesn't mean he meant to hurt. You can argue it all along, but unless you were actually in his mind you dont' know that. If he actually wanted to hurt him he could have done far worse.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#169 » by QingJames » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:33 pm

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There was no flop, he fell.Unfortunate that Robinson's ankle was there.

LOL it`s an obvious flop. He pushes backwards with his legs.



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Watch gain, Embiid drives, Robinson either slips or flops, and twists his ankle on Donte DiVincenzo's shoe. The board doesn't even have it right, but w/e, never let facts get in the way of a good story.


Robinson slips, yes. Then Embiid brings 300lb down onto his ankle for no reason. I guess you would say that Embiid was preventing his own injury by falling forward like a sack of potatoes onto his opponent's ankle...
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#170 » by QingJames » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:37 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:Prove to my he tried to hurt him. He pulled him down to protect himself. It was reckless and stupid no doubt. Yeah it was dirty. But knowing the psychology of people generally when you are always suffering injuries I find it very hard to believe he wants others to get hurt as well.

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.



And as I've said before emotions go the better of him. He basically said dont' even come close to landing on me, I'm going to get you the **** out of the way, even if I have to throw you off me. Very risky, with a high likeliness to hurt someone. That doesn't mean that he wanted to hurt him. That means he was dealing with enough **** that he had a brain fart. What **** was he dealing with? Injured leg, paralysed face, team facing a 3-0 hole, the continuous talk about him coming up small in the playoffs. It's inexcusable, doesn't mean he meant to hurt. You can argue it all along, but unless you were actually in his mind you dont' know that. If he actually wanted to hurt him he could have done far worse.


I would completely buy this if he wasn't playing violently and recklessly throughout the rest of the game. You can't say "it was a spur of the moment frustration" when the dude goes on to hip check a guy for no reason (who also just came back from a series injury) and then commit two nut shots, AND flop into Robinson's ankle like he flopped into Danny Green's leg. He either was trying to injure people or just does not care if he does or not.

One spur-of-the-moment frustration foul? I can look past that, even if it's as dangerous as what Joe L did to Mitch. But Embleed has a track record and even being called for that dirty play didn't make him modulate his 'frustration' for the remainder of the game.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#171 » by LaLover11 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:39 pm

Let's all agree that if Joel is dirty... So was Shaq
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Post#172 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:39 pm

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.



And as I've said before emotions go the better of him. He basically said dont' even come close to landing on me, I'm going to get you the **** out of the way, even if I have to throw you off me. Very risky, with a high likeliness to hurt someone. That doesn't mean that he wanted to hurt him. That means he was dealing with enough **** that he had a brain fart. What **** was he dealing with? Injured leg, paralysed face, team facing a 3-0 hole, the continuous talk about him coming up small in the playoffs. It's inexcusable, doesn't mean he meant to hurt. You can argue it all along, but unless you were actually in his mind you dont' know that. If he actually wanted to hurt him he could have done far worse.


I would completely buy this if he wasn't playing violently and recklessly throughout the rest of the game. You can't say "it was a spur of the moment frustration" when the dude goes on to hip check a guy for no reason (who also just came back from a series injury) and then commit two nut shots, AND flop into Robinson's ankle like he flopped into Danny Green's leg. He either was trying to injure people or just does not care if he does or not.

One spur-of-the-moment frustration foul? I can look past that, even if it's as dangerous as what Joe L did to Mitch. But Embleed has a track record and even being called for that dirty play didn't make him modulate his 'frustration' for the remainder of the game.



OG hip checked him right before he pulled down Robinson. That was the whole reason Embiid was on the ground. So OG is allowed to do it, but Embiid isn't? Gimme a break...
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#173 » by QingJames » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:43 pm

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Did OG also commit a flagrant 2, kick two Philly players in the nuts, and flop into a guy's ankles in the same game?

What don't you understand about the fact that it's not one single incident alone people are repulsed by, but the sum of his actions during that game? (And his reckless play throughout his career, frankly.)
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#174 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:47 pm

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Did OG also commit a flagrant 2, kick two Philly players in the nuts, and flop into a guy's ankles in the same game?

What don't you understand about the fact that it's not one single incident alone people are repulsed by, but the sum of his actions during that game? (And his reckless play throughout his career, frankly.)
Ah I see so because you think Embiid has a rep others are allowed to shove him to the ground, be physical, maul him during the series but he's got to just stand and take it.

This is the playoffs. Things will get intense, physical and occasionally overboard. **** happens... Move on.

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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#175 » by Laimbeer » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:21 pm

QingJames wrote:
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kveble wrote:LOL it`s an obvious flop. He pushes backwards with his legs.



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Watch gain, Embiid drives, Robinson either slips or flops, and twists his ankle on Donte DiVincenzo's shoe. The board doesn't even have it right, but w/e, never let facts get in the way of a good story.


Robinson slips, yes. Then Embiid brings 300lb down onto his ankle for no reason. I guess you would say that Embiid was preventing his own injury by falling forward like a sack of potatoes onto his opponent's ankle...


Embiid had a pretty clear path when Robinson slipped and his legs came into Embiid's path. Was he supposed to levitate above him? Embiid did some chippy stuff but this one doesn't seem to be on him.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#176 » by Im Coming Home » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:24 pm

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That is not an argument at all, my friend. There is really no argument that can defend this bearhug. None. It was a dirty play with intent to harm.
Prove to my he tried to hurt him. He pulled him down to protect himself. It was reckless and stupid no doubt. Yeah it was dirty. But knowing the psychology of people generally when you are always suffering injuries I find it very hard to believe he wants others to get hurt as well.

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.

Its not worth going back and forth with this guy. He literally has spent the last 3 days in the series thread and now this one trying to spin it any which way he can to defend Embiid.

Like you said, he did it with intent to injure, not to 'protect himself' he is leaving out the part where Embiid was clearly having a temper tantrum and was annoyed and already doing dirty plays prior to this one, clearly showing he was angry.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#177 » by kveble » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:26 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:

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Watch gain, Embiid drives, Robinson either slips or flops, and twists his ankle on Donte DiVincenzo's shoe. The board doesn't even have it right, but w/e, never let facts get in the way of a good story.


Robinson slips, yes. Then Embiid brings 300lb down onto his ankle for no reason. I guess you would say that Embiid was preventing his own injury by falling forward like a sack of potatoes onto his opponent's ankle...


Embiid had a pretty clear path when Robinson slipped and his legs came into Embiid's path. Was he supposed to levitate above him? Embiid did some chippy stuff but this one doesn't seem to be on him.


I'm not blaming Embiid for this, but I mean he could try to stay up. I know it's something totally new for him, but I mean why not try it sometimes?
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#178 » by Im Coming Home » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:27 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:whataboutism


Did OG also commit a flagrant 2, kick two Philly players in the nuts, and flop into a guy's ankles in the same game?

What don't you understand about the fact that it's not one single incident alone people are repulsed by, but the sum of his actions during that game? (And his reckless play throughout his career, frankly.)
Ah I see so because you think Embiid has a rep others are allowed to shove him to the ground, be physical, maul him during the series but he's got to just stand and take it.

This is the playoffs. Things will get intense, physical and occasionally overboard. **** happens... Move on.

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You would NOT be saying this if Robinson grabbed Embiids leg and Embiid had to leave the game and possibly miss Game 4 if not more.

You're literally only saying this because it benefits your team, now Knicks may be missing their biggest center with the best ability to bang down low with Embiid.

Have some integrity, you don't get to say 'sh*t happens move on' when its not your player who ended up injured, sorry.
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Post#179 » by Duffman100 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:42 pm

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Protect himself? He freaking pulled him towards himself. That's not trying to protect yourself. That's putting yourself in more danger just to make sure the other guy definitely gets hurt.

Again, you do not bear hug someone's legs while in the air. You just don't. When you do, you're trying to injure them. Period. Every player knows that you don't pull that kind of ****.



And as I've said before emotions go the better of him. He basically said dont' even come close to landing on me, I'm going to get you the **** out of the way, even if I have to throw you off me. Very risky, with a high likeliness to hurt someone. That doesn't mean that he wanted to hurt him. That means he was dealing with enough **** that he had a brain fart. What **** was he dealing with? Injured leg, paralysed face, team facing a 3-0 hole, the continuous talk about him coming up small in the playoffs. It's inexcusable, doesn't mean he meant to hurt. You can argue it all along, but unless you were actually in his mind you dont' know that. If he actually wanted to hurt him he could have done far worse.


I would completely buy this if he wasn't playing violently and recklessly throughout the rest of the game. You can't say "it was a spur of the moment frustration" when the dude goes on to hip check a guy for no reason (who also just came back from a series injury) and then commit two nut shots, AND flop into Robinson's ankle like he flopped into Danny Green's leg. He either was trying to injure people or just does not care if he does or not.

One spur-of-the-moment frustration foul? I can look past that, even if it's as dangerous as what Joe L did to Mitch. But Embleed has a track record and even being called for that dirty play didn't make him modulate his 'frustration' for the remainder of the game.


I would buy it if this wasn’t the 32nd example of him being dirty.
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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player 

Post#180 » by shi-woo » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:20 pm

Anyone standing up for Joel in this thread are clowns. An entire circus of clowns led by the biggiest of them all, Embiid himself.

The NBA changed the entire way the game is played and called, making it impossible to guard jumpshooters, all to protect players and their landing space. There is no argument to be made for what Joel did, and he honestly should be suspended. Being near someones landing space is a tech, what he did was wild by 2024 standards.

The 2 kicks to the groin also bothered me. It's not like these dudes are guarding him like Marcus Morris or Dre, Hartelstein and Robinson are just playing strait up defense, no need to do that, especially if you are the clearly better player.

I wouldn't be surprise if Joel came down on a shoe tonight while shooting a midrange, and i wouldn't feel bad

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