Durant should've stayed with Curry

[svart]

Durant isn't going to save Curry from the late career disaster

Winning a 4th ring and fmvp at 34 was most certainly disastrous.

Don't mind this one. He is a curry hater, never miss a chance to throw sh"t.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Injuries, context, etc.

He's pretty much hand picked his own teams and chemistry issues have been a major factor with all of them. Yes, there have been injuries, but also they have had an absurd amount of talent on all of them and still underachieving. I mean, what has he really done since leaving GS? He hasn't been in a conference championship game since, which for the teams he has been on is absolutely wild that he can't make it past the second round.

We're judging him as KD the player, not KD the GM. He already know most players are clueless as GMs.

My point was he had the chance to build the team needed to win a Championship. He’s created teams that were favorites to win Championships…none of them have even gotten close.

[One_and_Done]

He's pretty much hand picked his own teams and chemistry issues have been a major factor with all of them. Yes, there have been injuries, but also they have had an absurd amount of talent on all of them and still underachieving. I mean, what has he really done since leaving GS? He hasn't been in a conference championship game since, which for the teams he has been on is absolutely wild that he can't make it past the second round.

We're judging him as KD the player, not KD the GM. He already know most players are clueless as GMs.

My point was he had the chance to build the team needed to win a Championship. He’s created teams that were favorites to win Championships…none of them have even gotten close.

Which has nothing to do with how good he is at playing basketball.

[edgymnerch]

He should come back home. Steph and KD one last dance

[HMFFL]

Durant’s legacy has taken such a massive hit since 2019. Could not have gone worse. Had he stayed with Warriors likely would’ve ended up with 5-6 titles and a few more FMVPs, certified top 10 all-time indisputable status.

However since then he tore his Achilles, watched the team that won it all without him do it again in 2022, and has been bounced out of 1st/2nd round every year and is essentially 36 y/o and washed up.

Zero chance of top 10-15 all time status, likely at best top 20-25.

He's 8th all-time in points scored. He should have no problem becoming top 3 and if not top 2. He's easily a top 15 player of all-time.

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Nope, not easily at all. Very debatable and can easily argue he’s outside of it.

He has no argument against:

Jordan
LeBron
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Shaq
Kobe
Curry
Hakeem
Jokic

Very debatable if he’s ahead of:

Oscar
West
Moses
Erving
Garnett
Dirk
Giannis

Please realize that Kevin Durant ranks higher than those players you mentioned. Is it really that difficult to understand and you apparently haven't done any research.


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[LaLover11]

He's 8th all-time in points scored. He should have no problem becoming top 3 and if not top 2. He's easily a top 15 player of all-time.

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Nope, not easily at all. Very debatable and can easily argue he’s outside of it.

He has no argument against:

Jordan
LeBron
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Shaq
Kobe
Curry
Hakeem
Jokic

Very debatable if he’s ahead of:

Oscar
West
Moses
Erving
Garnett
Dirk
Giannis

Please realize that Kevin Durant ranks higher than those players you mentioned. Is it really that difficult to understand and you apparently haven't done any research.


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Talent wise in his prime beside team success Durant is better than

Bird
Dirk
KB24
Shaq
Curry is debatable but I still think he's the better player because he can play defense and he's 7ft

Durant is Top 10 for me skill and talent wise

[One_and_Done]

KD is a borderline top 10 player all-time.

[GrandTheftRondo]

KD and LeBron have definitely found out over the last few years that continuity is underrated.

LeBron’s been so good that he’s succeeded regardless in terms of rings but I do always wonder how things would have turned out if he stuck around in Miami.

[One_and_Done]

When KD retires with 34k+ points as the 4th leading scorer all-time, groaning from the weight of team selections, people will forget most of the other stuff and will appreciate his resume more.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

We're judging him as KD the player, not KD the GM. He already know most players are clueless as GMs.

My point was he had the chance to build the team needed to win a Championship. He’s created teams that were favorites to win Championships…none of them have even gotten close.

Which has nothing to do with how good he is at playing basketball.

But all is very much in line with the original point that I made.

If you wanted to change the subject of my original post, that’s fine, but I don’t know why you’re shocked I’m still staying in line with my original comment.

KD set out to prove he could lead his own team to a Championship, he hand picked his own teams, created some stacked teams, and has fallen incredibly short every time.

Doesn’t mean he sucks as basketball, that has never once been my point.

[Lockdown504090]

Naa this thread should read "OKC never should have got a team if they weren't serious about winning when they got a true contender," and that's the unfortunate narrative that was buried in the annals of NBA history.

KD is a star that had to endur 3 of the weirdest and most heart breaking changes in NBA history. He was the face of a franchise that was moved, and then he's the only player in NBA history to have his championship window cut early because his team didn't want to pay for a contender. The first 1/2 of his career was essentially Vince Carter in TOR fused with LeBron's 1st CLE split.

Not many generational players are exposed to that side of the business world, but KD had to eat it every single year till he final said enough is enough. KD's career is so weird in that regard, because it's mired in What if's? that were out of his control. I don't care about his going to GS because of that, though I know a lot of people are still salty just like how i'm salty about LeBron teaming up in MIA. It just is what it is, and what those guys needed to do to break out of the business model they were thrown into.

KD secured his legacy as the #3 of his generation, and that's all that mattered to him. Now he just gets to play ball and do him. LeBron propagandists will convince you that GS was a perenial powerhouse, but other posters have already mentioned how that wasn't the case. They were always going to be less talented than those CAVS teams with 3 All-NBA players. KD just gave them the same edge over the rest of the league that LeBron enjoyed in both MIA and CLE. Nothing really to see there, just LeBron propaganda again. Weird how when KD and Steph say they temed up to beat LeBron who had by then played in 6 strait finals it's a travesty and unhuman, but LEBRon and Wade saying the same thing but about a 45 year old BOS Big 3 it's applauded...so weird. Especially when you consider LEBron by hiimself in CLE the year prior won 61 games and was 1st in the East...you know kind of similar to the Warriors being 1st out West the year prior to teaming up LEBron propagandists man, they'll have you believing water isn't wet if you listen to them long enough.

I respect KD leaving, and again, thought that he chose the right team, and honestly the right player in Kyrie in Brooklyn. Covid just happened, that's all. Once again hi career altered negatively by unseen forces out of his control. He had a chance to build that franchise up, but after Kyrie quit on the tem, and then Harden, it was just a wasted few years after coming back from injury.

I don't think PHX was the right spot for him though, he should have came to BOS or went to Philly. That's my only gripe about what he's done with his career.

Theres too much overlap with him and booker. The reason durants 3 point attempts are so low is because he doesnt have teammates or a system that creates good shots for him. Theres so much 1 on 1 basketball and freelancing, he cant be happy since thats essentially what he said about why he wanted to leave the thunder and go to the warriors in the first place. That frustration i saw when they were blowing the 3-1 to the warriors is essentially what the suns are doing ALL the time.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

When KD retires with 34k+ points as the 4th leading scorer all-time, groaning from the weight of team selections, people will forget most of the other stuff and will appreciate his resume more.

To a degree.

I don’t think anyone is arguing he’s bad at basketball or anything.

But I also don’t know what legacy he really has beyond “yea, he was a great player.”

Which fan base loves KD? I’m not sure he’ll get any lasting loyalty from a significant portion of the fan base from any team he’s played on.

[kenwood3333]

GSW should have gotten rid of Draymond instead, but this organization/owersship group is too attached to their big 3s.

[bledredwine]

The funny thing is if KD stuck around, people would have chilled out about the teaming up like they did with Lebron, Wade and Bosh as Golden State declined.

Instead, he crushed everyone for two years and left.

[DaPessimist]

Draymond called him a b**** and he got in his feelings so it was all over after that. They literally talked about it all season how he was going to leave and low and behold he left.

I think KD had already decided he was leaving at the end of the season. That's why Draymond called him a bytc, because he knew KD already had one foot out the door.

I think the main reason KD left is that he lost his love for the game playing for the Warriors. I believe KD truly loves the game, and the negativity that surrounded him joining the Warriors was too much to overcome.

[LaLover11]

Draymond called him a b**** and he got in his feelings so it was all over after that. They literally talked about it all season how he was going to leave and low and behold he left.

I think KD had already decided he was leaving at the end of the season. That's why Draymond called him a bytc, because he knew KD already had one foot out the door.

I think the main reason KD left is that he lost his love for the game playing for the Warriors. I believe KD truly loves the game, and the negativity that surrounded him joining the Warriors was too much to overcome.

He felt guilty that LeBron had no chance to beat them
That's why he left and made it equal for everyone

[Parataxis]

He cared about things other than winning the most titles.

He also showed he could win without Curry just fine, unfortunately injuries etc meant it never resulted in a title. Feels like they'd have won the 21 title if 1 literal inch had been different or if they'd been healthy though.

In games KD played since leaving his teams did as follows, despite constant injury and off-court issues.

21: 23-12
22: 36-19
23: 34-13
24: 44-31

Not bad for a guy aged 32-35. Circumstances didn't align for a title, but he did just fine driving winning without Curry.

Weren't all the reports saying he wanted to prove he could win one without the Warriors? He never proved he could.

KD is a great player, of course his teams have done well, but they've all underachieved for the talent they've had since he left GS...who won before KD got there and after KD left.

Injuries, context, etc.

But injuries ARE a part of the consideration. You can't lead a team to victory if you're not on the court.

[One_and_Done]

Weren't all the reports saying he wanted to prove he could win one without the Warriors? He never proved he could.

KD is a great player, of course his teams have done well, but they've all underachieved for the talent they've had since he left GS...who won before KD got there and after KD left.

Injuries, context, etc.

But injuries ARE a part of the consideration. You can't lead a team to victory if you're not on the court.

Sure, but the injuries aren't always to him. In 2021 for example his team mates got hurt. But for that, he likely wins the title, and was 1 inch away from beating that year's champs.

[draftbarnes]

Hmmm

[JN61]

Durant isn't going to save Curry from the late career disaster

Curry did save Durant’s career.

Maybe, maybe not. All we know is Lebron sonned Curry in the NBA finals and without 2015 injury disaster he would have had grand total 0 rings come 2017.