Mat Isbhia ruined the Suns
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What does it take to get Trae Young? Booker straight up?
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Old past prime superstars ruin franchises. They think they’re still those dudes they were at 27-30 but they aren’t.
Durant ran the Nets franchise into the ground demanding they cripple their future for Harden/Kyrie.
Did the same with the Suns franchise demanding they get an overrated and not even that good Beal.
Teams need to realize unless you have a truly generational all-time like Jokic or Doncic or Wembanyama, and unless they’re like under the age of 30, you don’t need to capitulate to every one of their demands.
Durant ran the Nets franchise into the ground demanding they cripple their future for Harden/Kyrie.
Did the same with the Suns franchise demanding they get an overrated and not even that good Beal.
Teams need to realize unless you have a truly generational all-time like Jokic or Doncic or Wembanyama, and unless they’re like under the age of 30, you don’t need to capitulate to every one of their demands.
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Booker is good but he still needs an adult in the room. I'm not sure he ever won't as he's well into his prime as a player. I'd move KD, try and move Beal if someone will take him and he will accept it. If you can't probably best to get ahead of the curve and move Book before it becomes an AD situation and leverage is lost.
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Can't blame the man for acquiring Kevin freaking Durant. And I don't really blame him for taking Bradley Beal going forward over an older injury prone Chris Paul. It's on the GM to find them a point guard.
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They took their shot. Sometimes it doesn't work out.
Phoenix's bad moves
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Phoenix's bad moves
giberish wrote:Anticon wrote:ghillphx wrote:
So, again, they went to the NBA finals, won 64 games the year after...
Their most impactful player in those years was Chris Paul, and it's irrelevant in any case to how they'd perform this year and going forward.
Look genuinely at the competition in the West right now and make a case that that team would be particularly threatening.
Paul's importance to the team should have made them realize the importance of at least having a credible NBA starting PG going forward. No matter how much talent you have if your offense is just guys taking turns isoing there's a limit as to how good your offense is going to be.
People forget that Phoenix was a lottery team for a decade before it added Chris Paul. One year after adding him, the Suns were two wins from winning the NBA title. Paul was a great stabilizing force and was effectively the adult in the room for a young Phoenix squad.
Personally, Phoenix should not have gutted its team and draft capital for an aging Kevin Durant and an ineffective Bradley Beal. The Suns' biggest need was getting an eventual replacement/understudy for Paul, not stripping its assets for two players that duplicate Devin Booker's strengths.
giberish wrote:While Paul had aged out of being a major player on a top team, Phoenix needed a replacement starting PG instead of an extra SG.
To me, the perfect move would have been to contact San Antonio during the 2021-22 season and trade draft picks and some spot players for Dejounte Murray. Murray would have been a better fit alongside Paul than where he is in Atlanta with Trae Young, then he could replace Paul as the starting point guard. A team of Murray, Booker, Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, DeAndre Ayton and its draft capital would have been a much more balanced team than what Phoenix has now.
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Literally no one on those Prok nets teams were as good as KD or booker. As bad as it looks, they will get at least another season with a KD/book/beal core, which is honestly not shabby if you consider they will have some continuity and a chance to retool their bench.
The prok nets were doomed to start. KG was pretty cooked at the time. They went all in on an even shorter window than the KD suns. Also catastrophic with a team of such a short window, one of the starters going down early in the season like brook lopez in 2013. That nets team was not healthy.
The prok nets were doomed to start. KG was pretty cooked at the time. They went all in on an even shorter window than the KD suns. Also catastrophic with a team of such a short window, one of the starters going down early in the season like brook lopez in 2013. That nets team was not healthy.