Teleport the 2010 Lakers into today's league, how many do they win?

[Matt15]

Finals for sure

[Lalouie]

the league is dead in the middle of parity - that means no great teams

just cuz a team looks good doesn't mean they ARE good - they're just good against other mediocre teams. you can look no further than see what happens in scoring in the playoffs...there's been a drop of 10ppg, and that's just the GOOD teams. people see players flying around and the thought is the league is great

does anyone think that what's left has a chance against any of top 30 teams in the past millenium. hellz,,,i think any number of spurs teams alone from their recent past would OWN today's nba

[SK21209]

This season actually reminds a bit of the 2010 season. In 2010 the West had 8 50-win teams, but no great, historically notable teams. The best team was the defending champion Lakers that were a bit older and slower than the previous year (similar to how the Nuggets have looked so far). In the East, you had the Cavs and Magic as the clear best teams in the conference (like the Celtics this year), but with records that were maybe a bit overinflated due to how weak the conference was overall.

2010 is not that long ago lol, the 2010 Lakers would be very good in today's NBA. Bynum played 30 minutes a game in 2010, that would probably be closer to 20 now with Odom and Shannon Brown taking those minutes.

[One_and_Done]

This season actually reminds a bit of the 2010 season. In 2010 the West had 8 50-win teams, but no great, historically notable teams. The best team was the defending champion Lakers that were a bit older and slower than the previous year (similar to how the Nuggets have looked so far). In the East, you had the Cavs and Magic as the clear best teams in the conference (like the Celtics this year), but with records that were maybe a bit overinflated due to how weak the conference was overall.

2010 is not that long ago lol, the 2010 Lakers would be very good in today's NBA. Bynum played 30 minutes a game in 2010, that would probably be closer to 20 now with Odom and Shannon Brown taking those minutes.

2010 is a very long time ago given how much the game has changed since then. It's a totally different game.

[tsherkin]

Lol 40 wins.

Riiiiight.

On paper definitely not but that team was making 7 3's per game. The fewest this season was 11. So if they don't start throwing up 3's they would lose to worse teams.

The game was much different in 2010, there's no reason to think they wouldn't be a solid 3p team, both Gasol and Bynum had the range.

Bynum was a 69% FT shooter who couldnt shoot past 10 feet. He absolutely did not have the range.

The Lakers were slow, playing the triangle, non-elite on offense in their time, about 2.5% below league average today from 3 and not high volume. Their offensive efficiency today would be worst in the league.

Straight teleporting them into the league wouldnt be great for them. They were good defensively and would remain so but would struggle on O without adaptation, and Phil was ride or die with the triangle. Pau missed 17 games, Kobe 9. Their bench wasnt good.


They would probably be a 45-47 win team, Id guess, with that roster and no adjustment period. You couls build a good team today around Kobe and Pau but they would need a LOT more in terms of shooting and depth to compete today, especially in the West.

[TheFire]

The game has changed so much since then, so hard to know. My gut tells me they get run out the building by elite teams.

[SK21209]

This season actually reminds a bit of the 2010 season. In 2010 the West had 8 50-win teams, but no great, historically notable teams. The best team was the defending champion Lakers that were a bit older and slower than the previous year (similar to how the Nuggets have looked so far). In the East, you had the Cavs and Magic as the clear best teams in the conference (like the Celtics this year), but with records that were maybe a bit overinflated due to how weak the conference was overall.

2010 is not that long ago lol, the 2010 Lakers would be very good in today's NBA. Bynum played 30 minutes a game in 2010, that would probably be closer to 20 now with Odom and Shannon Brown taking those minutes.

2010 is a very long time ago given how much the game has changed since then. It's a totally different game.

That's overstating it a bit. LeBron won MVP in 2010 and is still one of the best players in the league. Same with Durant. Thibs, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Pop, these guys were still around in 2010 and three of them coached in these playoffs. Teams shoot more threes and move around more without the ball, so defenses react accordingly. That's about it. Turn on a game from 2010, its different but not some other universe.

I also don't know why we would assume with these questions that the historical team wouldn't play any differently. As if Phil Jackson, the most successful coach in the history of the league, wouldn't watch 15 minutes of 2024 NBA basketball and think "huh this is different, we might want to do some of that". These questions are only interesting if you think about how teams from different eras would adapt to each other, otherwise the past is always worse than the present, which is always worse than the future.

[One_and_Done]

This season actually reminds a bit of the 2010 season. In 2010 the West had 8 50-win teams, but no great, historically notable teams. The best team was the defending champion Lakers that were a bit older and slower than the previous year (similar to how the Nuggets have looked so far). In the East, you had the Cavs and Magic as the clear best teams in the conference (like the Celtics this year), but with records that were maybe a bit overinflated due to how weak the conference was overall.

2010 is not that long ago lol, the 2010 Lakers would be very good in today's NBA. Bynum played 30 minutes a game in 2010, that would probably be closer to 20 now with Odom and Shannon Brown taking those minutes.

2010 is a very long time ago given how much the game has changed since then. It's a totally different game.

That's overstating it a bit. LeBron won MVP in 2010 and is still one of the best players in the league. Same with Durant. Thibs, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Pop, these guys were still around in 2010 and three of them coached in these playoffs. Teams shoot more threes and move around more without the ball, so defenses react accordingly. That's about it. Turn on a game from 2010, its different but not some other universe.

I also don't know why we would assume with these questions that the historical team wouldn't play any differently. As if Phil Jackson, the most successful coach in the history of the league, wouldn't watch 15 minutes of 2024 NBA basketball and think "huh this is different, we might want to do some of that". These questions are only interesting if you think about how teams from different eras would adapt to each other, otherwise the past is always worse than the present, which is always worse than the future.

Lebron transcends eras, but the Lakers and the triangle sure don't. Phil being willing to abandon the triangle... good one. How was that goink in NY?

[dickfox]

I think you need a time machine and not a teleporter for this exercise OP

[SK21209]

2010 is a very long time ago given how much the game has changed since then. It's a totally different game.

That's overstating it a bit. LeBron won MVP in 2010 and is still one of the best players in the league. Same with Durant. Thibs, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Pop, these guys were still around in 2010 and three of them coached in these playoffs. Teams shoot more threes and move around more without the ball, so defenses react accordingly. That's about it. Turn on a game from 2010, its different but not some other universe.

I also don't know why we would assume with these questions that the historical team wouldn't play any differently. As if Phil Jackson, the most successful coach in the history of the league, wouldn't watch 15 minutes of 2024 NBA basketball and think "huh this is different, we might want to do some of that". These questions are only interesting if you think about how teams from different eras would adapt to each other, otherwise the past is always worse than the present, which is always worse than the future.

Lebron transcends eras, but the Lakers and the triangle sure don't. Phil being willing to abandon the triangle... good one. How was that goink in NY?

When they had Carmelo Anthony, a rookie Porzingis and Jose Calderon? Pretty badly, as you would expect. Give that team Denver's or OKC's current playbook and they still win 25 games.

Tons of teams still use spacing principles derived from the triangle, by the way. All it would take is the weak-side forward standing behind the three-point line rather than in the high post for the spacing to be fine by modern standards, you can't tell me that wouldn't be a completely obvious adjustments for one of if not the greatest coach of all time. The big difference is the lack of pick and roll actions, but again if you watch Denver for 5 minutes its obvious that you can/do a lot of the same P&R/DHO stuff with Kobe and Pau. It makes no sense to assume none of this stuff would happen.

[nikster]

Lol 40 wins.

Riiiiight.

On paper definitely not but that team was making 7 3's per game. The fewest this season was 11. So if they don't start throwing up 3's they would lose to worse teams.

There's 0 reason to increase 3 point shooting attempts just because of what the other team does on a nightly bases. All they have to do is focus on making the defensive stop to get the ball back, then once the ball is in their hands. They can maintain 7 3's if they feel the need to and continue to utilize their bigs in the paint, slashing to the rim, and midrange shots as they did in 2010 inside of that triangle offense. No reason they can't still win with that formula.

There's lots of reason to believe increased 3 point shooting would be important. How many teams in the last 5 years had a good offense while being below average in 3 point shooting? Let alone worst in the league by a large margin

[ShootersShoot]

They kind of remind me kind of a version of the modern twolves.. star SG with an elite frontcourt rotation. Artest brought the perimeter defense like mcdaniels and fisher played the vet guard role. I do prefer mcdaniels and conley than artest/fisher though.

[OdomFan]

On paper definitely not but that team was making 7 3's per game. The fewest this season was 11. So if they don't start throwing up 3's they would lose to worse teams.

There's 0 reason to increase 3 point shooting attempts just because of what the other team does on a nightly bases. All they have to do is focus on making the defensive stop to get the ball back, then once the ball is in their hands. They can maintain 7 3's if they feel the need to and continue to utilize their bigs in the paint, slashing to the rim, and midrange shots as they did in 2010 inside of that triangle offense. No reason they can't still win with that formula.

There's lots of reason to believe increased 3 point shooting would be important. How many teams in the last 5 years had a good offense while being below average in 3 point shooting? Let alone worst in the league by a large margin

They would do fine. Just like they did in 2010.

[TheGOATRises007]

The OP is obsessed with hating on Kobe and past players/teams.

[lonzo_pelota]

I know they beat the celtics in any demension

[dockingsched]

Bynum/Gasol/Odom would be the best front court in the league and able to adjust to any team in the league.

[tsherkin]

The OP is obsessed with hating on Kobe and past players/teams.

Kobe wouldn't be the problem with porting that team forward. Kobe, and Pau for that matter, would both adapt well. The coaching, however, and the rest of that supporting cast, would be the impediment.

[sikma42]

The prior years team was better and would win the title. I preferred them with Ariza. Kobe was also beat up.

Why pick the worse team?


Also, you could easily bench Bynum and play:

Fisher
Kobe
MWP
Odom
Pau

It’s just that the team the previous year

Fisher
Kobe
Ariza
Odom
Pau

Would win the title this year and perfectly build for today’s game.

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[dockingsched]

The OP is obsessed with hating on Kobe and past players/teams.

Kobe wouldn't be the problem with porting that team forward. Kobe, and Pau for that matter, would both adapt well. The coaching, however, and the rest of that supporting cast, would be the impediment.

I assure you a tall versatile long defender like Odom with his ball handling, passing, rebounding and respectable perimeter skills would not be an impediment. I gotta imagine you just forgot him.

[SlimShady83]

The OP is obsessed with hating on Kobe and past players/teams.

Lol and yet people have called me a Kobe fanatic and Bron hater on here lol