Smallers players guarding Big man
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Smallers players guarding Big man
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Smallers players guarding Big man
I don't know whether or not to post it here but here it goes, why are smaller players more effective guarding big men?
For example: S-Jax on Dirk
What did he do to get Dirk off his game? I have the exact same problem and no matter what I do I can't manage to get over it. Against people of my stature I have no problem going up against but when you put someone that's 5-8 or 5-10 on me I began to struggle.
I try to post up but they seem almost impossible to move. I try to get my shot off but it always get stripped, it's really bugging me.
Thank you.
For example: S-Jax on Dirk
What did he do to get Dirk off his game? I have the exact same problem and no matter what I do I can't manage to get over it. Against people of my stature I have no problem going up against but when you put someone that's 5-8 or 5-10 on me I began to struggle.
I try to post up but they seem almost impossible to move. I try to get my shot off but it always get stripped, it's really bugging me.
Thank you.
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NetsForce wrote:How much of a height advantage do you have against these guys?
I stand at 6'4 and it's usually 4 inches or so?
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smaller players are usually quicker than bigger guys so they are able to go to their positioning better.
If you can't post up a smaller guy, then you need to gain more strength/weight.
If you can't post up a smaller guy, then you need to gain more strength/weight.
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Albanian Damien wrote:The only big man who have trouble against smaller defenders have a combination of the following problems:
1. They can't dribble
2. They aren't strong
3. they can't jump
4. They have a short wingspan.
Makes sense. I have a Chris Bosh type frame and it's odd cause I find it easier to back in guys my height but harder when it's someone shorter then me guarding me.
My coach said it had something to do with a low centre of gravity? Whatever that's suppose to mean.
Thanks for the response.
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That type of success on defense only happens to slow footed players.
- Look at how Stephen Jackson makes Dirk Nowitzki irrelevant.
- Look at how Al Harrington makes Yao Ming Irrelevant.
- Look at how Baron Davis makes Steve Nash irrelevant.
It happened to Dirk because he's a slow footed player, but it most likely won't happen to someone who's athletic as hell with a good handle. You can see those players have great success on defense when guarding slow players, but you won't see someone like Al Harrington being able to stop someone athletic like Dwight Howard most of the time. The only time when Al Harrington can stop someone like Howard, is when the pace of the game is quick enough that Dwight can't get into the right spot to dunk the ball.
This works against Stoudemire and the Suns too, the Suns refuse to slow down against other teams... that benifets the Warriors because their quick hands on D allows them to make Stoudemire somewhat irrelevant, since he has a hard time getting in the right spot on the floor to get a pass from Nash when the pace is fast and the Warriors defenders are all over the passing lanes.
The only slow footed big man this doesn't really work on, is Tim Duncan. Duncan always finds a way to circumvent that kind of defense.
And for you... NEVER dribble the ball too much against smaller defenders. Once you start your dribble against a smaller team, you're vulnerable to getting the ball stripped. I see the Warriors do that to people all the time, that's why they lead the league in steals. Instead, you gotta practice on working quick in the post, have good footwork, and pump fake when the time is right, to be able to score on those midgets. Also, learn how to pass well in the post, so when you become the focus of the defense you can always find an open man or cutter for an assist.
- Look at how Stephen Jackson makes Dirk Nowitzki irrelevant.
- Look at how Al Harrington makes Yao Ming Irrelevant.
- Look at how Baron Davis makes Steve Nash irrelevant.
It happened to Dirk because he's a slow footed player, but it most likely won't happen to someone who's athletic as hell with a good handle. You can see those players have great success on defense when guarding slow players, but you won't see someone like Al Harrington being able to stop someone athletic like Dwight Howard most of the time. The only time when Al Harrington can stop someone like Howard, is when the pace of the game is quick enough that Dwight can't get into the right spot to dunk the ball.
This works against Stoudemire and the Suns too, the Suns refuse to slow down against other teams... that benifets the Warriors because their quick hands on D allows them to make Stoudemire somewhat irrelevant, since he has a hard time getting in the right spot on the floor to get a pass from Nash when the pace is fast and the Warriors defenders are all over the passing lanes.
The only slow footed big man this doesn't really work on, is Tim Duncan. Duncan always finds a way to circumvent that kind of defense.
And for you... NEVER dribble the ball too much against smaller defenders. Once you start your dribble against a smaller team, you're vulnerable to getting the ball stripped. I see the Warriors do that to people all the time, that's why they lead the league in steals. Instead, you gotta practice on working quick in the post, have good footwork, and pump fake when the time is right, to be able to score on those midgets. Also, learn how to pass well in the post, so when you become the focus of the defense you can always find an open man or cutter for an assist.
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Wait nevermind what I said about the Suns. They DO want to slow down against teams most of the time, because they have good pick and roll plays. But against the Warriors, I feel that they refuse to slow down because the Suns always wanna prove that they are better at running than the Warriors are. haha.
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I know what you mean. Against players my height or taller I can drive and create off of that. Against smaller guys it's harder to drive. You have to play smart if you still want to play a perimeter game. Remember, you most likely have longer strides, so they have to guess which way your going and cheat. A good jab step or even a head fake can send defenders flying.
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^^^Yao can't even do that to Al Harrington.
Anyways, it's also hard to do that at the point guard position too. Damn, I have handles... but these two little short f*ckers kept double teaming me with their quickness and doing that gangbang warriors defense on me and I couldn't get anywhere. That sucks, because it makes you have to pass the ball. I'm not saying that passing is bad, but it's bad when your team sucks and you're their only hope to put points on the board.
Anyways, it's also hard to do that at the point guard position too. Damn, I have handles... but these two little short f*ckers kept double teaming me with their quickness and doing that gangbang warriors defense on me and I couldn't get anywhere. That sucks, because it makes you have to pass the ball. I'm not saying that passing is bad, but it's bad when your team sucks and you're their only hope to put points on the board.
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To the OP:
Your first problem is trying to move a smaller player. It's way to easy to get called for a charge even if you DO find yourself able to move them.
The most important thing is that after you get position, you're not looking to physically push them towards the rim; you're looking to get around/under them or get them off you so you can shoot OVER them.
So you've got a four-inch height advantage on the guy, OK.
How far out are you receiving the ball?
Your first problem is trying to move a smaller player. It's way to easy to get called for a charge even if you DO find yourself able to move them.
The most important thing is that after you get position, you're not looking to physically push them towards the rim; you're looking to get around/under them or get them off you so you can shoot OVER them.
So you've got a four-inch height advantage on the guy, OK.
How far out are you receiving the ball?
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tsherkin wrote:To the OP:
Your first problem is trying to move a smaller player. It's way to easy to get called for a charge even if you DO find yourself able to move them.
The most important thing is that after you get position, you're not looking to physically push them towards the rim; you're looking to get around/under them or get them off you so you can shoot OVER them.
So you've got a four-inch height advantage on the guy, OK.
How far out are you receiving the ball?
I usually get the ball just outside of the key or at the baseline. I have outside range so it's either I take the open shot (when available), back them up and go for an up and under/fade away/or go in for a hook shot. I've tried spinning around the smaller players but it always results me in getting the ball stripped, as of late I've been holding up the ball high but it's very uncormftable. I'm not the strongest guy around (as I've said I have a Chris Bosh frame) so I will start working out.
And I can't just turn around and shoot it over them, it's not like their stiffs there's always a hand in my face.
J-Rush, I know what you mean I've tried getting them to bite off a jab step or headfake but these are pretty good defensive players.
Cupcake, that's exactly what happens. They always have one forearm in the middle of my back. I don't want to bulldozer them over but at the time it's just odd.