2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

[Dr Positivity]

If the Lakers weren't playing Denver in round 1 would you have them higher?

Lebron and Davis needing to make it through 4 rounds and being in play-in hurt their odds.

[Colbinii]

Wolves in 6
Clippers in 6 [If Kawhi plays all 6 games, otherwise Mavericks in 6 if Kawhi misses 1 or more game]

Cavaliers in 5 [30 MPG Isaac could help things for the Magic, but their offense is difficult to watch]
Pacers in 6 [Giannis being relatively healthy and playing a majority of the games sways this quickly to Milwaukee]

I am excited to see what happens in the Play-In games, notably both 7-8 games. Not really interested in either 9-10 match-up with regards to how they affect the actual playoffs, but I will definitely be tuning in tonight for Sac-Town vs We-Miss-Oracle rematch.

[GSP]

Steph shouldnt make All Nba this season Tbh was he even a top 5 Pg this season?

Luka, Sga, Brunson are easily ahead no debate. Hali and Fox have been better too Imo not a lock but eh and Fox just outplayed and blew him out in an elimination game

[Colbinii]

Kerr was right--Karma prevailed

[TheGOATRises007]

Wonder if Curry asks out or not

[GSP]

In hindsight its safe to say Suns made the right move trading Cp3 for Beal

Cp3 is a Monte Morris now. He manages the game well can have spurts but hes not like that anymore. Beals avg level is much higher than Cp3 on both ends of the floor. And his high end play makes his and their ceiling far higher than current Cp3 can even touch.

Cp3 is cooked. 3,2,1 on 1/3 shooting in an elimination game lol and he hasnt been able to guard anyone for years now either

[Peregrine01]

Wonder if Curry asks out or not

Is it really that over for the Warriors?

[TheGOATRises007]

Wonder if Curry asks out or not

Is it really that over for the Warriors?

They've got no cap space. Their core is past their prime or finished(Klay). They have no assets. You're not getting AS talent back in return for Wiggins/Kuminga/Podz/etc

It's over for them. I wonder if Curry will stick it out or try to contend elsewhere in his waning years.

[Mos_Heat]

Wonder if Curry asks out or not

Is it really that over for the Warriors?

They've got no cap space. Their core is past their prime or finished(Klay). They have no assets. You're not getting AS talent back in return for Wiggins/Kuminga/Podz/etc

It's over for them. I wonder if Curry will stick it out or try to contend elsewhere in his waning years.

I don't think it's that bad, but Curry doesn't have time. I doubt he will be top 10ish player for more than a year

[ardee]

What are the odds the play-in gets axed at some point? The NBA has shown they're happy to roll back changes that aren't working, like the All-Star draft.

[ardee]

Wonder if Curry asks out or not

Would be very surprised if he did. His legacy is beyond secure with 4 titles, finishing his career as a one franchise guy is at this point more important than trying to win one more somewhere else.

If he stays, he's the Duncan of this era.

[ardee]

Is it really that over for the Warriors?

They've got no cap space. Their core is past their prime or finished(Klay). They have no assets. You're not getting AS talent back in return for Wiggins/Kuminga/Podz/etc

It's over for them. I wonder if Curry will stick it out or try to contend elsewhere in his waning years.

I don't think it's that bad, but Curry doesn't have time. I doubt he will be top 10ish player for more than a year

Really think so? His numbers this year were better than in 2022 which was the title year, and he had a much stronger 2023 RS the year after that.

[eminence]

Curry's time is limited, but I expect him to ride it out with GS at a non-contending level. A lot would have to break right for him to be a championship #1 anymore.

I don't really see any big deals coming for them, the core just isn't good enough anymore to justify huge luxury bills and there's been plenty of talk of moving to save some money (pretty easy to get under the luxury tax, don't guarantee CP3 and sign Klay cheap or let him walk). They'd be well under the luxury tax at that point and would have the MLE to add a worthwhile piece.

Curry/???
Podz/Payton
Wiggins/Moody
Draymond/Kuminga
Jackson-Davis/Looney

Alternatively they could guarantee CP3 at some number for a trade.

Team could really use some skilled size, too often they either had to go tiny.

[Slava]

Chris Paul’s career goes out an a whimper.

[RCM88x]

Curry's time is limited, but I expect him to ride it out with GS at a non-contending level. A lot would have to break right for him to be a championship #1 anymore.

I don't really see any big deals coming for them, the core just isn't good enough anymore to justify huge luxury bills and there's been plenty of talk of moving to save some money (pretty easy to get under the luxury tax, don't guarantee CP3 and sign Klay cheap or let him walk). They'd be well under the luxury tax at that point and would have the MLE to add a worthwhile piece.

Curry/???
Podz/Payton
Wiggins/Moody
Draymond/Kuminga
Jackson-Davis/Looney

Alternatively they could guarantee CP3 at some number for a trade.

Team could really use some skilled size, too often they either had to go tiny.

That rotation just looks disgusting, is that even a play-in team next year? I feel like their best route is to get cheap this year, fall back a bit, and try to reload for 2026.

Wiggins has to be another guy they look at moving, he has been very underwhelming since the title season and will be turning 30 next year.

[eminence]

Curry's time is limited, but I expect him to ride it out with GS at a non-contending level. A lot would have to break right for him to be a championship #1 anymore.

I don't really see any big deals coming for them, the core just isn't good enough anymore to justify huge luxury bills and there's been plenty of talk of moving to save some money (pretty easy to get under the luxury tax, don't guarantee CP3 and sign Klay cheap or let him walk). They'd be well under the luxury tax at that point and would have the MLE to add a worthwhile piece.

Curry/???
Podz/Payton
Wiggins/Moody
Draymond/Kuminga
Jackson-Davis/Looney

Alternatively they could guarantee CP3 at some number for a trade.

Team could really use some skilled size, too often they either had to go tiny.

That rotation just looks disgusting, is that even a play-in team next year? I feel like their best route is to get cheap this year, fall back a bit, and try to reload for 2026.

Wiggins has to be another guy they look at moving, he has been very underwhelming since the title season and will be turning 30 next year.

It's approximately the same team as this year, play-in seems reasonable. That'd mainly be what they were doing (getting cheaper), I don't think a reload is very possible for them unless a superstar asks to be traded to GS in particular.

They should certainly be willing to listen to offers.

[Colbinii]

Curry's time is limited, but I expect him to ride it out with GS at a non-contending level. A lot would have to break right for him to be a championship #1 anymore.

I don't really see any big deals coming for them, the core just isn't good enough anymore to justify huge luxury bills and there's been plenty of talk of moving to save some money (pretty easy to get under the luxury tax, don't guarantee CP3 and sign Klay cheap or let him walk). They'd be well under the luxury tax at that point and would have the MLE to add a worthwhile piece.

Curry/???
Podz/Payton
Wiggins/Moody
Draymond/Kuminga
Jackson-Davis/Looney

Alternatively they could guarantee CP3 at some number for a trade.

Team could really use some skilled size, too often they either had to go tiny.

That rotation just looks disgusting, is that even a play-in team next year? I feel like their best route is to get cheap this year, fall back a bit, and try to reload for 2026.

Wiggins has to be another guy they look at moving, he has been very underwhelming since the title season and will be turning 30 next year.

It's pretty bad. I could see Houston and San Antonio jumping them in the standings.

[70sFan]

No love for Zion postseasin debut? He looked very impressive.

Any update on his health? Will he play in the 2nd play-in game?

[Colbinii]

No love for Zion postseasin debut? He looked very impressive.

Any update on his health? Will he play in the 2nd play-in game?

The first thing I thought of is him and Ja are so similar in that they relentlessly get to the rim, were drafted #1 and #2, and are often injured. Zion's ability to finish around and through contact from AD and LeBron was excellent.

Both of them are likely the very best at what they do in NBA history, but how does it actually scale?

New Orleans really needs to add a legitimate, rim protecting center and move off of Brandon Ingram.

[70sFan]

No love for Zion postseasin debut? He looked very impressive.

Any update on his health? Will he play in the 2nd play-in game?

The first thing I thought of is him and Ja are so similar in that they relentlessly get to the rim, were drafted #1 and #2, and are often injured. Zion's ability to finish around and through contact from AD and LeBron was excellent.

Both of them are likely the very best at what they do in NBA history, but how does it actually scale?

New Orleans really needs to add a legitimate, rim protecting center and move off of Brandon Ingram.

Yeah, Ingram just doesn't work in this team and Jonas isn't the best option next to Zion either. They built an excellent perimeter team around Zion's inside pressence, they just lack a few changes here and there to compete in the playoffs.

I still hope they'll make the playoffs, it will be a nice matchup against young OKC team.