You can not win a title with a center such as Jokic if he can't play defence.
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The guy was trying to attempt soccer scissor kick on that video clip in Cameroon. Watch his movement, how he was going for the blocks and dunking the ball, you can't do that if you are seriously injured. Those are just excuses for him for missing the same jump shots he's hitting with the much better precision in the regular season, and again his post up game is very limited which is obvious in the play off's, he can score here and there but not constantly , he can't even get in the good position to score the ball in the paint . If you can't back down Marcus Smart one on one , where you have an advantage of 6,7 inches and 70 + pounds, then you have serious problems in your game. After the game six against Boston, Embiid was complaining how he doesn't get the ball in his hands a lot. But I was carefully watching his possessions in that game , he would get the ball in his hands very often and he would do nothing but passing it to his teammates , he was hesitant to make any move with the ball . That was the great example of the pressure, he was literally lost in the game, like a deer in the headlights.
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Mickey8 wrote:The guy was trying to attempt soccer scissor kick on that video clip in Cameroon. Watch his movement, how he was going for the blocks and dunking the ball, you can't do that if you are seriously injured. Those are just excuses for him for missing the same jump shots he's hitting with the much better precision in the regular season, and again his post up game is very limited which is obvious in the play off's, he can score here and there but not constantly , he can't even get in the good position to score the ball in the paint . If you can't back down Marcus Smart one on one , where you have an advantage of 6,7 inches and 70 + pounds, then you have serious problems in your game. After the game six against Boston, Embiid was complaining how he doesn't get the ball in his hands a lot. But I was carefully watching his possessions in that game , he would get the ball in his hands very often and he would do nothing but passing it to his teammates , he was hesitant to make any move with the ball . That was the great example of the pressure, he was literally lost in the game, like a deer in the headlights.
By far the dumbest thing about realgm is doubting injuries when players say they are hurt
It’s a knock on him that he was hurt, because he gets legit hurt every playoff run lol, but saying a dude that came back 5 weeks early from injury isn’t hurt is stupid
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Again watch his movement against Boston, he wasn't affected by it whatsoever. When you go for the blocks and you are dunking the ball with the full force , not laying it down to protect your legs or knees , to me you are 100% healthy. Embiid has been shielded from the criticism all throughout his career because he can always turn back and say oh I wasn't 100% healthy .If f you are not 100% why are you playing and lowering the chances for your team who was doing very well without you??? Isn't that selfish though ??? Jokic clearly had issues with his wrist in the first round against Minnesota , it was wrapped up and it probably wasn't 100% through the entire play off's but he never used that as an excuse, Minnesota series was his lowest shooting series in the play off's.
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Mickey8 wrote:Again watch his movement against Boston, he wasn't affected by it whatsoever. When you go for the blocks and you are dunking the ball with the full force , not laying it down to protect your legs or knees , to me you are 100% healthy. Embiid has been shielded from the criticism all throughout his career because he can always turn back and say oh I wasn't 100% healthy .If f you are not 100% why are you playing and lowering the chances for your team who was doing very well without you??? Isn't that selfish though ??? Jokic clearly had issues with his wrist in the first round against Minnesota , it was wrapped up and it probably wasn't 100% through the entire play off's but he never used that as an excuse, Minnesota series was his lowest shooting series in the play off's.
What the hell are you talking about lol
Bro said he should be out 4 more weeks yes he was obviously hurt I don’t care what ur eye test says lmao
The idea it was selfish for him to play through an injury is literally stupid. Lebron was very selfish for playing through a torn tendon lmfao.
The only reason the Minnesota series was his worst shooting series was game 5 lmao. No way ur comparing a wrist to an LCL sprain that’s crazy, and I wasn’t even talking about Jokic because he’s clearly better than Embiid regardless
Idk why ur going so hard on this train right now, it’s stupid. He was hurt, it is what it is. We can say he played hurt and wasn’t great, but saying he wasn’t hurt because you saw him go for a block is dumb as hell lol. He’s not being shielded from criticism because he gets hurt every playoff run, thats the criticism
But yes, he was hurt, I couldn’t care less about ur eye test to tell me this is actually a big conspiracy that he faked his injury and LCL sprains actually only take a few days to fully heal from because that’s stupid
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coastalmarker99 wrote:A big man that can’t really anchor a defence won't you win a title as teams will keep exposing Jokic's poor defence in the playoffs.
Well, this aged well, Mark.
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MyUniBroDavis wrote:Mickey8 wrote:Again watch his movement against Boston, he wasn't affected by it whatsoever. When you go for the blocks and you are dunking the ball with the full force , not laying it down to protect your legs or knees , to me you are 100% healthy. Embiid has been shielded from the criticism all throughout his career because he can always turn back and say oh I wasn't 100% healthy .If f you are not 100% why are you playing and lowering the chances for your team who was doing very well without you??? Isn't that selfish though ??? Jokic clearly had issues with his wrist in the first round against Minnesota , it was wrapped up and it probably wasn't 100% through the entire play off's but he never used that as an excuse, Minnesota series was his lowest shooting series in the play off's.
What the hell are you talking about lol
Bro said he should be out 4 more weeks yes he was obviously hurt I don’t care what ur eye test says lmao
The idea it was selfish for him to play through an injury is literally stupid. Lebron was very selfish for playing through a torn tendon lmfao.
The only reason the Minnesota series was his worst shooting series was game 5 lmao. No way ur comparing a wrist to an LCL sprain that’s crazy, and I wasn’t even talking about Jokic because he’s clearly better than Embiid regardless
Idk why ur going so hard on this train right now, it’s stupid. He was hurt, it is what it is. We can say he played hurt and wasn’t great, but saying he wasn’t hurt because you saw him go for a block is dumb as hell lol. He’s not being shielded from criticism because he gets hurt every playoff run, thats the criticism
But yes, he was hurt, I couldn’t care less about ur eye test to tell me this is actually a big conspiracy that he faked his injury and LCL sprains actually only take a few days to fully heal from because that’s stupid
I don't care what your fake lying "bro" was saying. He's playing soccer in his off time, attempting scissors kicks, there was nothing wrong with him . He was moving great on the court, he didn't hobble, he didn't grimace , he was running up and down, moving side to side, jumping etc without any trouble . There was nothing wrong with his movement. Guy is fake as fake as your defending of him. He was missing the same jump shot"s he's taking in the regular season because he can't make them under the pressure and he has sloppy post up games and zero physicality.
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Mickey8 wrote:MyUniBroDavis wrote:Mickey8 wrote:Again watch his movement against Boston, he wasn't affected by it whatsoever. When you go for the blocks and you are dunking the ball with the full force , not laying it down to protect your legs or knees , to me you are 100% healthy. Embiid has been shielded from the criticism all throughout his career because he can always turn back and say oh I wasn't 100% healthy .If f you are not 100% why are you playing and lowering the chances for your team who was doing very well without you??? Isn't that selfish though ??? Jokic clearly had issues with his wrist in the first round against Minnesota , it was wrapped up and it probably wasn't 100% through the entire play off's but he never used that as an excuse, Minnesota series was his lowest shooting series in the play off's.
What the hell are you talking about lol
Bro said he should be out 4 more weeks yes he was obviously hurt I don’t care what ur eye test says lmao
The idea it was selfish for him to play through an injury is literally stupid. Lebron was very selfish for playing through a torn tendon lmfao.
The only reason the Minnesota series was his worst shooting series was game 5 lmao. No way ur comparing a wrist to an LCL sprain that’s crazy, and I wasn’t even talking about Jokic because he’s clearly better than Embiid regardless
Idk why ur going so hard on this train right now, it’s stupid. He was hurt, it is what it is. We can say he played hurt and wasn’t great, but saying he wasn’t hurt because you saw him go for a block is dumb as hell lol. He’s not being shielded from criticism because he gets hurt every playoff run, thats the criticism
But yes, he was hurt, I couldn’t care less about ur eye test to tell me this is actually a big conspiracy that he faked his injury and LCL sprains actually only take a few days to fully heal from because that’s stupid
I don't care what your fake lying "bro" was saying. He's playing soccer in his off time, attempting scissors kicks, there was nothing wrong with him . He was moving great on the court, he didn't hobble, he didn't grimace , he was running up and down, moving side to side, jumping etc without any trouble . There was nothing wrong with his movement. Guy is fake as fake as your defending of him. He was missing the same jump shot"s he's taking in the regular season because he can't make them under the pressure and he has sloppy post up games and zero physicality.
This is so brain dead is actually hurts lol
I could not care less about what ur eye test says just because you’d cry and throw a tantrum if you got a stubbed toe lmfao
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Clearly Embiid isn't injured. He's really Karl Malone just pretending to be Chris Paul.
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Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
Reggie Jackson is amazing and a killer in the clutch that's all.
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coastalmarker99 wrote:Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
I mean, the Clippers had 49 wins in a 72 game season, I think they could've managed 1-9 (The Jazz in '20 were also at a 50 win pace).
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coastalmarker99 wrote:Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
You can be a great player and win titles while not being better than LeBron James or Wilt Chamberlain.
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coastalmarker99 wrote:Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
While it’s clear he’s not as good as LeBron, the run last year wasn’t as weak as it looks on paper. Also,his defense other than in one or two games wasn’t that bad.
One thing that has jumped out at me is that Jokic is only 7-7 in closeout games.
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DEN lost this series a lot more due to their offense being put in shackles four times, much more than their defense.
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rk2023 wrote:DEN lost this series a lot more due to their offense being put in shackles four times, much more than their defense.
The loss of Bruce Brown really hurt them. Nuggets guards had trouble even bringing the ball up the floor. That zippy quickness and energy that Brown brought was really, really missed.
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rk2023 wrote:DEN lost this series a lot more due to their offense being put in shackles four times, much more than their defense.
Exactly, a basic test of whether anyone watched the series.
A really bizarre bump.
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rk2023 wrote:DEN lost this series a lot more due to their offense being put in shackles four times, much more than their defense.
Bbq chicken all series. If ant wasn’t being selfish, gobert was open like 3-4 straight possessions because Jokic was too winded and not paying attention during the double. Jokic is a trash defender and it did hurt them this series. Because Minny’s whole strategy first two games was attacking the paint because Jokic doesn’t defend the rim well. Then they had to start doubling ant constantly while prevented this attack
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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They lost this series, because their offense heavily underperformed.
The Wolves clamped them up.
The Wolves clamped them up.
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homecourtloss wrote:coastalmarker99 wrote:Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
While it’s clear he’s not as good as LeBron, the run last year wasn’t as weak as it looks on paper. Also,his defense other than in one or two games wasn’t that bad.
One thing that has jumped out at me is that Jokic is only 7-7 in closeout games.
I think he has 2 of the top 3 or 4 biggest game 7 meltdowns too. Only team to lose up 20 in a game 7. In 19 against the Blazers they had a big lead early too.
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JimmyFromNz wrote:rk2023 wrote:DEN lost this series a lot more due to their offense being put in shackles four times, much more than their defense.
Exactly, a basic test of whether anyone watched the series.
A really bizarre bump.
A basic test of whether you watched the series is if you take his assists per game at face-value. Jokic's offense was not anywhere near goat level. Turns out ball-handling is more than a minor component of offensive goodness.
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coastalmarker99 wrote:Was a very easy path for Denver last year.
Jokic still has not beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs yet.
We know that Jokic is an offensive god but for the love of god.
He is not better then two way players such as LeBron or other legends such as Wilt.
Wonder what your best peak list looks like.
Two way focus soo,
Lebron, Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt?
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