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Best 1-on-1 players in history

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Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Gregoire on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:03 am

Not long time ago Kobe Bryant claims himself as a best 1-on-1 player in history. If he was right or no? How can we compare bigs to small guys in 1-on-1? Brian Scalabrini several days ago played some 1-on-1 with streetballers and won it all. So, which players, you think, could win the all-time 1-on-1 tournament.
My proposal rules: halfcourt, referee, 3point arc of NBA, each round to 11 points, to 10 wins. Game with score system:1 point for FT,1 for in the arc,2 outside the arc (fouls called - 2 FTs and change possesion), after each basket possesion changes.After 5 fouls all fouls became shooting fouls.
Proposal candidates:
Best PG:
Magic
Oscar
Paul
Irving
Penny
Maravich
Iverson
Thomas
SG:
MJ
Kobe
Wade

Gervin
Drexler
Carter
T-Mac
SF:
Barry
Pippen
Bird
Lebron
Connie Hawkins
Dantley
Barkley

Durant
PF:
Lanier
Malone
Duncan
Garnett
Dirk

C:
Hakeem
Wilt
Shaq
Kareem

Robinson
Its a very rough list, but I try to rank them by probability to winning the tournament.
MJ
Kareem
Hakeem
Magic
Lebron/Shaq
Wilt
Kobe
Duncan
Barkley/Wade
Dirk
Bird
Garnett
Durant
your opinions?
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby RayBan-Sematra on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:11 am

No one can stop Shaq 1v1.
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Gregoire on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:17 am

RayBan-Sematra wrote:No one can stop Shaq 1v1.

Let it to begin :wink:
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Youthanasia on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:19 am

no one can score on bill russell

So bill russell
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Doormatt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:53 am

Youthanasia wrote:no one can score on bill russell

So bill russell


thats entirely false, in fact russell's biggest weakness was his 1v1 defense. much like KG, he made his impact defensively by being a mobile, team oriented big man. russell wasnt big like shaq or wilt and i dont even think he was 7 feet, so i think in a straight 1on1 he would probably get wrecked by someone like Shaq.
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby rrravenred on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:12 am

Sir Charles has got to be close on the Backdown. Especially if there's no fool telling him to give up the ball every 24 seconds...
Where does the above post fail?

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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Kobe Bean on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:32 am

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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Kobe Bean on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:34 am

Please, keep LeBron's name out of that list. He's the best player and all, but there are coutless players with better 1v1 qualities that aren't even close to his level as an NBA player. Also, Magic? TROLO-fuc*ing-LOL

Perimeter players:

- Kobe
- Iverson
- Carmelo
- Jordan
- McGrady
- Zeke
- Wade
- Penny
- Durant (height mismatch)

Big men:

- Shaq
- Kareem
- Chuck
- Hakeem
- Duncan
- Wilt
- Dirk

No particular order.I won't even try to rank anyone in a list with Jordan (any list that's not the Top 2 GOAT list I keep my mouth shut on) because of all the mythical bullsh*t spewed about him that makes it seem like he was the best at everything
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby UN-Owen on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:54 am

A prime Grant Hill would do well

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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby odeski on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:52 am

shaq and jordan.... my other votes goes to wilt ,kobe,kareem,t-mac and lebron
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Texas Chuck on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:28 am

FTs in 1 on 1? Refs?

No man its make it take it--play by ones, win by 2, call your own but ballers play through.

And never bet against Jordan in 1 on 1.
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby 90sAllDecade on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Peak Garnett would terrorize other PFs at this game. A big with enough outside shooting to hit the 3ptr, quick/athletic for dominant perimeter defense and strength for post defense & rebounds.

Despite his defensive shortcomings, Dirk would upset many people if he got hot from the 3pt line as well. Garnett would be have the match-up edge though. Barkley and Malone would be dark horses for upsets too.

PF
1. Garnett
2. Dirk / Barkley/ Malone

The same would apply to centers. Hakeem used to play 1v1 with guards before practice all the time. Shaq's perimeter defense and lack of a 3pt shot would be a weakness, but his sheer post physicality would win him many games. Kareem wasn't as good a rebounder, defender or 3pt shooter as Hakeem (which isn't saying much 3pt wise), but his all around game & dominant skyhook would keep him in the mix.

1. Hakeem
2. Shaq/ Kareem

PGs I have to think more about, but Magic might eat up a lot of people and Chris Paul would do damage as well.
1.Magic
Paul (not sure yet)

SG
1. MJ
2. Kobe

SF
1. Bird / Durant/ LeBron

I think the wing-men would win more often in a tournament.
Is ranking individual players strictly on team based performance (championships, win-shares) and offense (PER) lazy analysis?

Playoffs career stats > Regular Season career stats


If defense is 50% of the game, what's the GOAT top 10?
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby Miami4Life on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm

Melo would probably beat everyone except Jordan or Durant (no bigs).
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby GAME TIME on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:53 pm

RayBan-Sematra wrote:No one can stop Shaq 1v1.


RayBan_Semantra

Just foul shaq , problem solved :lol:
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Re: Best 1-on-1 players in history

Postby dho4ever on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:52 pm

GAME TIME wrote:
RayBan-Sematra wrote:No one can stop Shaq 1v1.


RayBan_Semantra

Just foul shaq , problem solved :lol:


I don't think you shoot freethrows in one on one
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